how many of you would not care if all the ghettos and everything in it were annihilated?

[jpeyton]

Annihilate? Ghettos?

Where have I heard those terms before?

OP, is that your final solution?

 

[m1ldslide1]

Go ahead and annihilate them. You'll have to do something with the poor people living there though - I advise concentrating them into camps, you can maybe call them 'concentration camps'. Make sure to put them to work there as well - no more trouble finding jobs you slackers! And go ahead and gas or incinerate those who can't work - they're obviously a drain on society, and their dependence on the government can't be tolerated. If they can't work, then they get the gas. It's all pretty simple.

Thanks BlahBlahYouToo - I think we have a final solution in mind now that you've raised such an intelligent question.

 

[m1ldslide1]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..hipHop, rap and crack are already accomplishing that. the gangs are there to assure they never change.

Jazz, marijuana and uppitiness were the rallying cries of the idiots in your prior generation. Thanks for carrying the torch. :thumbsup:

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: mizzou

What are the negatives? Well not from an ethical standpoint, I can't think of much....

Massive inflation. You just got rid of everyone who worked for anywhere from minimum wage to $15/hr. Now McDonalds and your local gas station and 7-eleven and your gracery store have to pay out $20/hr+ for basic low end employees. They can't afford to do that at current prices, so they raise prices on everything. A chain reaction results, because the employees can't afford to live on the money they make after inflation, and leave their jobs, company foriced to pay even more, inflation goes out of control.

That's utterly ridiculous. McDonald's doesn't have a busing program and neither does any other company offering minimum wage jobs. They hire locally. In ghettos they hire from the ghettos and in other neighborhoods they hire whoever lives in the area.

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: Imp

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I often tear them down in SimCity to make way for facilities which my rich residents would enjoy.

I just built 10 police stations and fire departments in the area. If that didn't work, tear down or start yelling obscenities.

I played out the Final Solution in SimCity 3000, I had someone design it and I picked it up after. It was fun

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: mizzou

What are the negatives? Well not from an ethical standpoint, I can't think of much....

Massive inflation. You just got rid of everyone who worked for anywhere from minimum wage to $15/hr. Now McDonalds and your local gas station and 7-eleven and your gracery store have to pay out $20/hr+ for basic low end employees. They can't afford to do that at current prices, so they raise prices on everything. A chain reaction results, because the employees can't afford to live on the money they make after inflation, and leave their jobs, company foriced to pay even more, inflation goes out of control.

That's utterly ridiculous. McDonald's doesn't have a busing program and neither does any other company offering minimum wage jobs. They hire locally. In ghettos they hire from the ghettos and in other neighborhoods they hire whoever lives in the area.

Huh? McDonalds hires locally? Right... I'm sure the McDonalds in McLean VA, avg house price $900,000, hires people who live in those houses. And I'm sure the Starbucks in Georgetown hires people living in the local $1,500,000 houses.

BS. The poor work in the poor paying jobs, that is how it works. Now, the McDonalds in a rich neighborhood might have to pay a little extra to compensate for the fact that the people working there are commuting from 20 miles away or whatever, but that is how things go.

And WTF are you talking about buses? We live in America, even the poor ghetto living deadbeats have cars, you can get a decent working car for $1500 if you don't care about looks, performance, or working A/C.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: mizzou

What are the negatives? Well not from an ethical standpoint, I can't think of much....

Massive inflation. You just got rid of everyone who worked for anywhere from minimum wage to $15/hr. Now McDonalds and your local gas station and 7-eleven and your gracery store have to pay out $20/hr+ for basic low end employees. They can't afford to do that at current prices, so they raise prices on everything. A chain reaction results, because the employees can't afford to live on the money they make after inflation, and leave their jobs, company foriced to pay even more, inflation goes out of control.

That's utterly ridiculous. McDonald's doesn't have a busing program and neither does any other company offering minimum wage jobs. They hire locally. In ghettos they hire from the ghettos and in other neighborhoods they hire whoever lives in the area.

Huh? McDonalds hires locally? Right... I'm sure the McDonalds in McLean VA, avg house price $900,000, hires people who live in those houses. And I'm sure the Starbucks in Georgetown hires people living in the local $1,500,000 houses.

BS. The poor work in the poor paying jobs, that is how it works. Now, the McDonalds in a rich neighborhood might have to pay a little extra to compensate for the fact that the people working there are commuting from 20 miles away or whatever, but that is how things go.

And WTF are you talking about buses? We live in America, even the poor ghetto living deadbeats have cars, you can get a decent working car for $1500 if you don't care about looks, performance, or working A/C.

Wow, your ignorance is astounding. Yes, kids in expensive hourse DO get jobs because some parents are responsible and try to teach them the value of working for spending money. Mommy and daddy didn't get rich by playing Nintendo and some try to create a work ethic. The point you're missing despite it being painfully obvious is that in rich neighborhoods there are not all that many McDonalds to begin with. They all staff locally, WTF would some kid drive from the slums to the burbs for a minimum wage job he can get right down the street? WTF do you think staffs McDonalds in Kansas and Iowa? Think kids are driving in from South Central? Please, the next time you pass a McDonalds in a decent neighborhood stop in and look who's working there. It's not the ghetto kids. And while you're there, please take the time to buy yourself a McClue.

 

[JetBlack69]

:music:Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy
But no less value to property
No sense in war but perfect sense at home:

The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight

Gonna
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight

Behold the sparkle of champagne
The crime rate's gone
Feel free again
O' life's a dream with you, Miss Lily White
Jane Fonda on the screen today
Convinced the liberals it's okay
So let's get dressed and dance away the night

While they:
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight:music:

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Wow, your ignorance is astounding. Yes, kids in expensive hourse DO get jobs because some parents are responsible and try to teach them the value of working for spending money. Mommy and daddy didn't get rich by playing Nintendo and some try to create a work ethic. The point you're missing despite it being painfully obvious is that in rich neighborhoods there are not all that many McDonalds to begin with. They all staff locally, WTF would some kid drive from the slums to the burbs for a minimum wage job he can get right down the street? WTF do you think staffs McDonalds in Kansas and Iowa? Think kids are driving in from South Central?

I think you need to rethink your argument and try to figure out if what you are saying really has any value at all, or if you just feel like spewing BS and insults because you want to prove me wrong.

Some kids work, some kids live off daddy, some kids can't work because they are doing something during normal business hours you may have heard of, called going to school. Some kids do work, but it certainly doesn't fill all the low-wage employment needs.

Unlike you, I'm not making this stuff up. I live in northern VA, I know how much rent and living expenses cost, and I have seen the people who work at the gas stations, McDonald, 7-Eleven, Grocery stores, and other low paying jobs. Sure, there are a few kids who probably live with their parents in the area, but the majority of people are adults, and commuting from poorer neighborhoods where rent is more affordable.

Please, the next time you pass a McDonalds in a decent neighborhood stop in and look who's working there. It's not the ghetto kids.

WTF kind of ignorant statement is that? So you can just look at a kid and tell exactly where he lives? I can tell you, it's not the rich kids, because they aren't kids at all for the most part. Not that I go to McDonalds all that often, but the one in Rosslyn is full of middle-eastern adults. Hey, I could be wrong, maybe McDonalds pays the cashiers $60k a year so they can afford apartments in Arlington. I kinda doubt it though, I think it's a lot more likely that the cashiers live in the cheaper areas of town and drive, bus, or metro to work.

 

[cpmer]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
The problem is, if you annihilated all of the ghettos, you'd put a bunch of liquor stores, pawn shops and fast food joints out of business. Used car dealers could no longer make a profit by reposessing and reselling the same car half a dozen times. Bad idea for the economy! :evil:

Honestly whats so bad about that lol?

 

[akshatp]

I assume you are talking about Paterson, NJ...

Yea pretty rough town, but alot of small businesses paying taxes there.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69
:music:Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy
But no less value to property
No sense in war but perfect sense at home:

The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight

Gonna
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight

Behold the sparkle of champagne
The crime rate's gone
Feel free again
O' life's a dream with you, Miss Lily White
Jane Fonda on the screen today
Convinced the liberals it's okay
So let's get dressed and dance away the night

While they:
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight:music:

Wake up kid
Its half past you think
Nothings really changing but the date
You a grand slammer but you no Babe Ruth
You gotta learn how to relate
You'll be swinging for the pearly gates
Ohh I got all answers, lo and behold
You got the right key baby but the wrong key hole, yo


Well I woke up this morning
On the wrong side of the bed
And how I got to thinkin'
About all the things you said
About ordinary people
And how they make you sick
And if callin' names kicks back on you
Then I hope this does the trick

'Cause I'm sick of your complainin'
About how many bills
And I'm sick of all your bitchin'
'Bout your poodles and your pills
And I just can't see no humor
About your way of life
And I think I can do more for you
With this here fork and knife

Eat The Rich
There's only one thing that they are good for
Eat The Rich
Take one bite now - come back for more
Eat The Rich
I gotta get this off my chest
Eat The Rich
Take one bite now - spit out the rest

So I called up my head shrinker
And I told him what I'd done
He said you best go on a diet
Yeah, I hope you have some fun
And a don't go burst the bubble
On rich folks who get rude
'Cause you won't get in no trouble
When you eats that kinda food

Now they're smokin' up their junk bonds
And then they go get stiff
And they're dancin' in the yacht club
With Muff and uncle Biff
But there's one good thing that happens
When you toss your pearls to swine
Their attitudes may taste like shit
But go real good with wine

Believe in all the good things
That money just can't buy
Then you won't get no bellyache
From eatin' humble pie
I believe in rags to riches
Your inheritance won't last
So take your Gray poupon my friend
And shove it up your ass

Eat The Rich
There's only one thing that they are good for
Eat The Rich
Take one bite now - come back for more
Eat The Rich
Don't stop me now, I'm goin' crazy
Eat The Rich
That's my idea of a good time baby

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: 1sikbITCH

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: BrownTown
I by "annihilated" you mean they just dissapear like they were never there before ten yeah that would be nice, but if you mean we go and kill all the poor people and buldoze their homes then no I'm not for genocide.

annihilate: to vanquish completely

Someone just got done reading Mein Kampf.

The Final Solution:

With the implementation of the "Final Solution" (the plan to murder all European Jews) beginning in late 1941, the Germans systematically destroyed the ghettos. The Germans and their auxiliaries either shot ghetto residents in mass graves located nearby or deported them, usually by train, to killing centers where they were murdered.

Reading is good, but understanding is better. The "Ghetto" that Hitler referred to is VERY different from what we consider to be a ghetto now. Hitler was referring to Jewish enclaves and neighborhoods because at that time in Europe Jews were mostly forced to live segregated from the rest of the population. They were sometimes poor, but often "Ghettos" of Hitlers time were clean, prosperous and crime free. They cooperated because most of the time the Jews were the victims of crimes committed by Gentiles, they were not the perpetrators of crimes against other Jews or other ethnic groups. Ghettos were not dangerous places and they did not infect other nearby neighborhoods with crime spilling out of them like the modern definition of ghettos.

So, ridiculous revisionist history here aside, you believe that Hitler was right in murdering millions of people? Or that he was wrong, but only because the crime rates in those ghettos weren't high enough in your opinion? And that because our ghettos have high crime rates, we should send in the death squads and get the furnaces at the concentration up to steam?
Maybe if you had tried to understand the OP, instead of just reading it...

 

[Eeezee]

Ghettos are usually high in crime, but some of the people in ghettos do work. America needs poor people; they take the jobs that no one else wants. Often these jobs are essential for the functioning of society. Who is going to step up and take these shitty jobs?

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Cogman
I said the last because there is no option that would represent what I would want.

I wish gettos never existed or they are eliminated, but not by just nuking the place from orbit. Rather, I would love to see some great social movement inspire those living there to change their lives for the better and improve what they have.

like i said in an earlier post, forced birth control for those on welfare.

u want $? take a birth control shot!

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: mizzou

What are the negatives? Well not from an ethical standpoint, I can't think of much....

Massive inflation. You just got rid of everyone who worked for anywhere from minimum wage to $15/hr. Now McDonalds and your local gas station and 7-eleven and your gracery store have to pay out $20/hr+ for basic low end employees. They can't afford to do that at current prices, so they raise prices on everything. A chain reaction results, because the employees can't afford to live on the money they make after inflation, and leave their jobs, company foriced to pay even more, inflation goes out of control.

of course there will be those that skirt the system. (ie: get $, not get the shot, and get preggers.)

those children will be the mcdonalds workers. so inflation will still be in check

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: Cogman
I said the last because there is no option that would represent what I would want.

I wish gettos never existed or they are eliminated, but not by just nuking the place from orbit. Rather, I would love to see some great social movement inspire those living there to change their lives for the better and improve what they have.

like i said in an earlier post, forced birth control for those on welfare.

u want $? take a birth control shot!

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: mizzou

What are the negatives? Well not from an ethical standpoint, I can't think of much....

Massive inflation. You just got rid of everyone who worked for anywhere from minimum wage to $15/hr. Now McDonalds and your local gas station and 7-eleven and your gracery store have to pay out $20/hr+ for basic low end employees. They can't afford to do that at current prices, so they raise prices on everything. A chain reaction results, because the employees can't afford to live on the money they make after inflation, and leave their jobs, company foriced to pay even more, inflation goes out of control.

of course there will be those that skirt the system. (ie: get $, not get the shot, and get preggers.)

those children will be the mcdonalds workers. so inflation will still be in check

First of all, not everyone in the ghetto is on welfare. A fair number of ghetto residents (I grew up with a few friends who lived in the ghetto) are just in a circumstance that dictates where they live. Those with jobs don't make any money, so they can't move out of the ghetto, and their jobs rarely provide them with marketable skills and as such they can't get a better job. Putting people on welfare on birth control will not eliminate ghettos. Keep in mind, ghettos existed long before welfare.

Secondly, it would be trivial to have doctors giving the shot at the welfare center. How does one get around that?

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Wow, your ignorance is astounding. Yes, kids in expensive hourse DO get jobs because some parents are responsible and try to teach them the value of working for spending money. Mommy and daddy didn't get rich by playing Nintendo and some try to create a work ethic. The point you're missing despite it being painfully obvious is that in rich neighborhoods there are not all that many McDonalds to begin with. They all staff locally, WTF would some kid drive from the slums to the burbs for a minimum wage job he can get right down the street? WTF do you think staffs McDonalds in Kansas and Iowa? Think kids are driving in from South Central?

I think you need to rethink your argument and try to figure out if what you are saying really has any value at all, or if you just feel like spewing BS and insults because you want to prove me wrong.

Some kids work, some kids live off daddy, some kids can't work because they are doing something during normal business hours you may have heard of, called going to school. Some kids do work, but it certainly doesn't fill all the low-wage employment needs.

Unlike you, I'm not making this stuff up. I live in northern VA, I know how much rent and living expenses cost, and I have seen the people who work at the gas stations, McDonald, 7-Eleven, Grocery stores, and other low paying jobs. Sure, there are a few kids who probably live with their parents in the area, but the majority of people are adults, and commuting from poorer neighborhoods where rent is more affordable.

Please, the next time you pass a McDonalds in a decent neighborhood stop in and look who's working there. It's not the ghetto kids.

WTF kind of ignorant statement is that? So you can just look at a kid and tell exactly where he lives? I can tell you, it's not the rich kids, because they aren't kids at all for the most part. Not that I go to McDonalds all that often, but the one in Rosslyn is full of middle-eastern adults. Hey, I could be wrong, maybe McDonalds pays the cashiers $60k a year so they can afford apartments in Arlington. I kinda doubt it though, I think it's a lot more likely that the cashiers live in the cheaper areas of town and drive, bus, or metro to work.

QFT, when you drive by fast food joints in the most expensive neighborhoods, it's usually either a mix of adults and kids or just adults, and I guarantee that none of them live locally.

If I can only get one job, and if it's an hour's drive away, I'm going to take it. What other choice is there?

 

[Auric]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69
:music:Efficiency and progress is ours once more

...

Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight:music:

First thing I thought of too. lawls

 

[HardcoreRobot]

i prefer we let things take their natural course, no intervention for 'better' or 'worse'. no social programs, but no proactive annihilation either

 

[Fritzo]

Yes, if you are poor, you should not be allowed to live. This will work.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: JEDI

of course there will be those that skirt the system. (ie: get $, not get the shot, and get preggers.)

those children will be the mcdonalds workers. so inflation will still be in check

Children go to school, Mcdonalds is open during school hours. I'm sorry, but the whole "rich kids do all the poor paying jobs" doesn't really hold up in reality. Sure, there might be a couple dropouts who work full time, and there might be a good number of kids who want to work part time after school, but if the entire existing adult workforce was suddenly "annihilated" there wouldn't be nearly enough kid labor to meet the demands.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Not all poor people live in Ghettos. Many expensive towns also have low-income and subsidized housing. For those, you should rally the townsfolk. Bring pitchforks and torch their homes.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Not all poor people live in Ghettos. Many expensive towns also have low-income and subsidized housing. For those, you should rally the townsfolk. Bring pitchforks and torch their homes.

Yup; take Columbia, MD for example. Ranked among the one of the top places to live in the country. You've got a neighborhood of $500K+ houses and across the street you'll find section 8 housing

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
hitler wanna-bes like the OP are so passe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

A new Intarweb record for Godwin's Law!

 

[Abe Froman]

Don't worry, I am on the phone with Rev Jesse Jackson now.