How many of those who complain about war have served?

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: BBond



Nice of you to stick around and make matters worse.

it is nice, because i am.

You're good at stating the obvious yet you can't seem to see what's right in front of you.

puhleese come up with something better than what you've said to uncountable other posters in this forum. :roll:

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: 32fear

Extreme left stance? Damn, son, take off those FOX News partisan blinders and WTFU.

I wonder when the chickenhawks will come a runnin' to defend this poll when they decry the equally ridiculous ones that ask who supports the war but haven't served.

Put the bottle down and form coherent thoughts before posting please.

<sniff> <sniff>

The wittle twoll can't handle the heat from his flamebait.

 

[arsbanned]

puhleese come up with something better than what you've said to uncountable other posters in this forum.

Uncountable?

Yeah, you too, whatever that is.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: BBond



Nice of you to stick around and make matters worse.

it is nice, because i am.

You're good at stating the obvious yet you can't seem to see what's right in front of you.

puhleese come up with something better than what you've said to uncountable other posters in this forum. :roll:

it's no worse than you repeating what "uncountable" other people have said about jane fonda (possibly worse since you probably weren't even alive when it happened or have done much research into what all the facts are).

as to the OT: Her reputation is so badly damaged that she serves to help no political or social movement by involving herself.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: BBond



Nice of you to stick around and make matters worse.

it is nice, because i am.

You're good at stating the obvious yet you can't seem to see what's right in front of you.

puhleese come up with something better than what you've said to uncountable other posters in this forum. :roll:

LINK?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Add a few more items to the poll:

For those that are not ademently opposed (vets vs IRaq vet) and those that see as a needed evil (vets vs IRaq vet).

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

puhleese come up with something better than what you've said to uncountable other posters in this forum.

Uncountable?

Yeah, you too, whatever that is.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=uncountable

 

[phantom309]

Originally posted by: 32fear
I see a lot of whining. But as a relative moderate who leans slight right, I feel like some of you whine without foundation. I want to know how many of YOU have served in Iraq. I want to know how many of you served at all.

Us "whiners" are trying to keep our leaders accountable, to prevent people like you from getting killed for foolish or dishonorable reasons.

 

[oculus]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I served in the Great War, the one where we met the enemy and he was us.

:Q

How true...

 

[oculus]

Originally posted by: 32fear
I see a lot of whining. But as a relative moderate who leans slight right, I feel like some of you whine without foundation. I want to know how many of YOU have served in Iraq. I want to know how many of you served at all.

I don't think serving provides you with any more or any less crediability when it comes to your political convictions.

Additionally, much of whining you hear is due to the fact that Bush sent our soldiers to war on a platform of deciet. There are very few who blame the soldiers, and those that do deserve the scorn they receive.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: 32fear

Originally posted by: Tab
What are you saying? I need to "serve" my country before I voice a opinion that my goverment may not agree with?

No, but thanks for puting words into my mouth. I was asking a question, you were assuming things that weren't said. I just think that people who have worked toward a cause have stronger convictions for it. It is often all too evident those who take their neighbor's work for granted.

welcome to P&N

Don't let the door hit ya'...

i'm not leaving anytime soon. posters like you make me want to stay.

Nice of you to stick around and make matters worse.

it is nice, because i am.

thanks for dragging this thread down to an even lower level.

Go back to OT where you belong.

 

[32fear]

Originally posted by: BBond

How many of those who complain about war have served?

What's the difference? The chickenhawks who sent Americans to war didn't serve. If they can start wars without having served, Americans can criticize wars without having served.

The question should be, "How many of those who took America to war have served?" If you don't like civilians criticizing the military you'll really be pi$$ed with that answer.

Besides, I've know many veterans and the military seems to be doing a very good job of adjusting attitudes. If criticism was limited to those who had served there would be very little criticism at all, IMO. And, if it's possible to have more that we have now, more war.

Read the Constitution, or what Bush and the Republicans have left of it. AFAIK, nowhere is military induction or indoctrination mentioned as a prerequisite for the right to free speech.

I'd like to point out that Bush has served 5 years as Commander in Chief. Have any current Democrats?

 

[biostud]

If serving in the military makes you more likely to choose war as a solution to problems do you think that's positive?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: 32fear

Originally posted by: BBond

How many of those who complain about war have served?

What's the difference? The chickenhawks who sent Americans to war didn't serve. If they can start wars without having served, Americans can criticize wars without having served.

The question should be, "How many of those who took America to war have served?" If you don't like civilians criticizing the military you'll really be pi$$ed with that answer.

Besides, I've know many veterans and the military seems to be doing a very good job of adjusting attitudes. If criticism was limited to those who had served there would be very little criticism at all, IMO. And, if it's possible to have more that we have now, more war.

Read the Constitution, or what Bush and the Republicans have left of it. AFAIK, nowhere is military induction or indoctrination mentioned as a prerequisite for the right to free speech.

I'd like to point out that Bush has served 5 years as Commander in Chief. Have any current Democrats?

clinto spent 8 as c&c, most among living presidents. Guess that make him the man for the job.

 

[n yusef]

Your argument is stupid. People that don't think that the war is a good idea don't say, "I'll join the army." If you disagree with the war, why would you fight in it? On the other hand, you could be saying that you can't have an opinion about the war without fighting in it, in which case, all of the folks who defend the war (Bush and co.) need to fight too, correct? Your logic doesn't work.

 

[Engineer]

No

No

Don't care to.

I have the full right to complain all I feel that is necessary. I vote. I pay taxes. I live here. Tough luck.

I can bitch about this bullsh!t war all I want, and usually do.

Just because I, or anyone else, didn't or doesn't want to join the military doesn't mean sh!t about complaining about or compaigning for a war. PERIOD.

I have every "foundation" because of the people who fought in the "real wars" to make this country what it is, not BS wars that drag it's image down to the bottom of the barrell! :|

/thread

 

[judasmachine]

you can say you had no ulterior motives for asking such a question, but we're all partisans here, and we know you have ulterior motives, just like the rest of us...

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: Engineer
No

No

Don't care to.

I have the full right to complain all I feel that is necessary. I vote. I pay taxes. I live here. Tough luck.

I can bitch about this bullsh!t war all I want, and usually do.

Just because I, or anyone else, didn't or doesn't want to join the military doesn't mean sh!t about complaining about or compaigning for a war. PERIOD.

I have every "foundation" because of the people who fought in the "real wars" to make this country what it is, not BS wars that drag it's image down to the bottom of the barrell! :|

/thread

Amen brother!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: 32fear

Originally posted by: BBond

How many of those who complain about war have served?

What's the difference? The chickenhawks who sent Americans to war didn't serve. If they can start wars without having served, Americans can criticize wars without having served.

The question should be, "How many of those who took America to war have served?" If you don't like civilians criticizing the military you'll really be pi$$ed with that answer.

Besides, I've know many veterans and the military seems to be doing a very good job of adjusting attitudes. If criticism was limited to those who had served there would be very little criticism at all, IMO. And, if it's possible to have more that we have now, more war.

Read the Constitution, or what Bush and the Republicans have left of it. AFAIK, nowhere is military induction or indoctrination mentioned as a prerequisite for the right to free speech.

I'd like to point out that Bush has served 5 years as Commander in Chief. Have any current Democrats?

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What a fvcking ridiculous statement!


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[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: 32fear

Originally posted by: BBond

How many of those who complain about war have served?

What's the difference? The chickenhawks who sent Americans to war didn't serve. If they can start wars without having served, Americans can criticize wars without having served.

The question should be, "How many of those who took America to war have served?" If you don't like civilians criticizing the military you'll really be pi$$ed with that answer.

Besides, I've know many veterans and the military seems to be doing a very good job of adjusting attitudes. If criticism was limited to those who had served there would be very little criticism at all, IMO. And, if it's possible to have more that we have now, more war.

Read the Constitution, or what Bush and the Republicans have left of it. AFAIK, nowhere is military induction or indoctrination mentioned as a prerequisite for the right to free speech.

I'd like to point out that Bush has served 5 years as Commander in Chief. Have any current Democrats?

thanks for pointing that out.
on your second point:
are you asking if there are currently alive democrats who served in the military or specifically as commander in chief?
(the answer, i think...i have yet to research this...is "a bunch")

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: 32fear

Originally posted by: BBond

How many of those who complain about war have served?

What's the difference? The chickenhawks who sent Americans to war didn't serve. If they can start wars without having served, Americans can criticize wars without having served.

The question should be, "How many of those who took America to war have served?" If you don't like civilians criticizing the military you'll really be pi$$ed with that answer.

Besides, I've know many veterans and the military seems to be doing a very good job of adjusting attitudes. If criticism was limited to those who had served there would be very little criticism at all, IMO. And, if it's possible to have more that we have now, more war.

Read the Constitution, or what Bush and the Republicans have left of it. AFAIK, nowhere is military induction or indoctrination mentioned as a prerequisite for the right to free speech.

I'd like to point out that Bush has served 5 years as Commander in Chief. Have any current Democrats?

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!

What a fvcking ridiculous statement!


BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

It had to be a joke, right?

 

[GhettoPeanut]

I've never been president, should i not vote or have an opinion. you dont need to do something to be able to stand back and look at it and make an intelligent decision. this is either NEFF post, or one just to piss allot of ppl off.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: BBond

It had to be a joke, right?

I dunno - consider the source.

Frankly, considering the shamelessness Rove et al have shown in the past in discrediting the brave military service of John McCain and Max Cleland, I wouldn't put it past them to argue that serving as CINC is somehow more valorous than garden-variety infantry work.

 

[zendari]

Clinton dodged the draft, it didn't bother the leftists then when he sent troops into harms way.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: zendari
Clinton dodged the draft, it didn't bother the leftists then when he sent troops into harms way.

It doesn't bother some rightists that Bush has invoked a trillion dollar war running up the debt on a premise that was, to be charitable, incorrect while complaining about taxation..