Well, looks like the vast majority have seen an evangelical... I guess this doesn't fit into tasteslikechicken's worldview. :brokenheart:
TuxDave
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One of my close friends is an evangelical, but she's more of the 'tries to take me to church every so often' type of evangelical. On the other hand, the evangelical that I recently met is more of the 'I'm going to hell and I don't respect your non-christian opinion' type of evangelical.
MidasKnight
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Very good reply. But here in this P&N forum there are people who hate the religious and it doesn't mater to them as they are all the same. Very bigoted in my view and yes they broad brush as well as generalize just as other members here are bigoted in the way they post or reply towards minorities / Gays ect.
The last two questions in your poll are redundant. 
I had a very interesting experience with an evangelical city worker in Ohio. After some in-depth disucssions I had with him, I developed a great deal of respect for him. I am not a fundamentalist Christian - I don't believe in the Bible literally (what people here seem to be calling 'evangelicals'), but I believe that there is really very little difference in the outlook of a fundamentalist Christian and someone of any other faith or even those without faith. All want what is best for his fellow man. People try to demonize them for their method of communicating their religion. My question is: when did discussion of religion become taboo in our society? I have had religious discussions with Hindus, Jews, Muslims, and all manner of Christians (including other Catholics), and they all have the same message. So, why is the evangelical message decried with such frequency? Is it the manner in which they present it?
I think what I've come to realize through my religious discourse with members of such a variety of religions is that everyone is at a different place in their journey of faith (or lack thereof). I have a feeling that I know why people get so bent out of shape regarding their evangelization, but I'll wait until someone can answer my question before I put it out there.
I had a very interesting experience with an evangelical city worker in Ohio. After some in-depth disucssions I had with him, I developed a great deal of respect for him. I am not a fundamentalist Christian - I don't believe in the Bible literally (what people here seem to be calling 'evangelicals'), but I believe that there is really very little difference in the outlook of a fundamentalist Christian and someone of any other faith or even those without faith. All want what is best for his fellow man. People try to demonize them for their method of communicating their religion. My question is: when did discussion of religion become taboo in our society? I have had religious discussions with Hindus, Jews, Muslims, and all manner of Christians (including other Catholics), and they all have the same message. So, why is the evangelical message decried with such frequency? Is it the manner in which they present it?
I think what I've come to realize through my religious discourse with members of such a variety of religions is that everyone is at a different place in their journey of faith (or lack thereof). I have a feeling that I know why people get so bent out of shape regarding their evangelization, but I'll wait until someone can answer my question before I put it out there.
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
The last two questions in your poll are redundant.
I had a very interesting experience with an evangelical city worker in Ohio. After some in-depth disucssions I had with him, I developed a great deal of respect for him. I am not a fundamentalist Christian - I don't believe in the Bible literally (what people here seem to be calling 'evangelicals'), but I believe that there is really very little difference in the outlook of a fundamentalist Christian and someone of any other faith or even those without faith. All want what is best for his fellow man. People try to demonize them for their method of communicating their religion. My question is: when did discussion of religion become taboo in our society? I have had religious discussions with Hindus, Jews, Muslims, and all manner of Christians (including other Catholics), and they all have the same message. So, why is the evangelical message decried with such frequency? Is it the manner in which they present it?
I think what I've come to realize through my religious discourse with members of such a variety of religions is that everyone is at a different place in their journey of faith (or lack thereof). I have a feeling that I know why people get so bent out of shape regarding their evangelization, but I'll wait until someone can answer my question before I put it out there.
Yes. In addition, they do have plenty (not all) arrogant people
Do you consider yourself a born-again? Have you been born-again? Is Jesus Christ your lord and savior and is he the ONLY path to salvation?
I am trying to see if he is a born-again... HE started talking about his religion. Only seems fair others can follow up on it.
Am I on trial here, or are you trying to avoid answering the ONE question that I posed? It isn't even a trick question. I can easily answer your questions but I won't until you can answer the one that I posed, as it is much simpler.
Red Dawn
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Ah but you are free to practice your archaic mythical beliefs as long as you don't insist that they should be adhered to by those who don't believe them. And if you don't then I fully support your right to practice them. Now if someone in your congregation doesn't practice what they preach then I fully believe that you are within your rights to judge them and exclude then from your rituals.
Originally posted by: Infohawk
I am trying to see if he is a born-again... HE started talking about his religion. Only seems fair others can follow up on it.
Real nice, coming from someone who doesn't know the meaning of "born again". (I'll give you a hint, it doesn't mean you're fundamantalist, pentecostal, whacko Christian.)
It hasn't.
They do not all have the same messages.
Because it is so extreme, blind, aggressive, ignorant, and irrational.
See above too.
Red Dawn
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Are you sure? Most Born Agains always include the fact that they are born again..even when your are talking about the weather!Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: Infohawk
I am trying to see if he is a born-again... HE started talking about his religion. Only seems fair others can follow up on it.
Real nice, coming from someone who doesn't know the meaning of "born again". (I'll give you a hint, it doesn't mean you're fundamantalist, pentecostal, whacko Christian.)
My parents are evangelical, I was raised that way. It drives me nuts, there are very few conversations that I have with them that don't involve God or the church in some way. It's always church activities, bible studies, choir practice, them disapproving of my lifestyle, etc.
However, my parents don't hate anybody. They're not nearly as hateful and bitter as the liberals in this forum. They pray for me, and feel sorry for me which is annoying. But they don't hate me. So I'd have to say I prefer evangelicals to leftists.
However, my parents don't hate anybody. They're not nearly as hateful and bitter as the liberals in this forum. They pray for me, and feel sorry for me which is annoying. But they don't hate me. So I'd have to say I prefer evangelicals to leftists.
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Yeah, I know. It's my first time using the poll option and I found the process rather non-inutitive. The second question was aimed more to those who haven't had them as friends but just have met some. Also, some buddies showed up just as I was creating the polls and I didn't take the time to formulate the poll questions properly. Sorry.Originally posted by: CycloWizard
The last two questions in your poll are redundant.
I really wanted to hear people's experience, but the question had a purpose and a point too, and Bowfinger summed it nicely:
In the last few days, Evangelicals have been stereotyped in this forum in one fell swoop and characterized as having certain traits, even being hateful. Red Dawn even drew a parallel to Gays. If someone came in here and stereotyped all gays as lisping, prancing, limp-wristed, effeminate pillow biters, a certain ideological faction would create a disturbance that would register on the Richter scale. If you've met any gays, of course you know that stereotype is nowhere near true, at least for the vast majority.
So how is it any more valid when we generalize and stereotype evangelicals, as has been the habit in here the last few days?
And Christians cannot force people to worship Jesus or obey Christian laws. But when asked their opinion if they want certain behaviors to be considered acceptable, they have the right to say no. Would you expect a Christian to not vote on such matters as gay marriage, or to vote against what they believe? What exactly is your goal here?
UglyCasanova
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What is the difference between a Born Again and a Fundamentalist and a Evangelical and a regular ol' Church goer? And if there are any I left out add those in too.
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Hey I was just treating the Evangelistas like they treat the Gays. What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander..or should I say the other Goose!Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Yeah, I know. It's my first time using the poll option and I found the process rather non-inutitive. The second question was aimed more to those who haven't had them as friends but just have met some. Also, some buddies showed up just as I was creating the polls and I didn't take the time to formulate the poll questions properly. Sorry.Originally posted by: CycloWizard
The last two questions in your poll are redundant.
I really wanted to hear people's experience, but the question had a purpose and a point too, and Bowfinger summed it nicely:
In the last few days, Evangelicals have been stereotyped in this forum in one feel swoop and characterized as having certain traits, even being hateful. Red Dawn even drew a parallel to Gays. If someone came in here and stereotyped all gays as lisping, prancing, limp-wristed, effeminate pillow biters, a certain ideological faction would create a disturbance that would register on the Richter scale. If you've met any gays, of course you know that stereotype is nowhere near true, at least for the vast majority.
So how is it any more valid when we generalize and stereotype evangelicals, as has been the habit in here the last few days?
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Are you sure? Most Born Agains always include the fact that they are born again..even when your are talking about the weather!Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: Infohawk
I am trying to see if he is a born-again... HE started talking about his religion. Only seems fair others can follow up on it.
Real nice, coming from someone who doesn't know the meaning of "born again". (I'll give you a hint, it doesn't mean you're fundamantalist, pentecostal, whacko Christian.)
No, most FUNDAMENTALISTS like to tell everyone they're born again. The definition of a Christian is to be born again. Most Christians would tell you they are born again. Not all Christians are fundamentalist weirdos though.
Red Dawn
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No they are not. Most Christians mind their own and live and let live. Unfortunately the Fund A Mental Cases and the Evangelistas don't.Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Are you sure? Most Born Agains always include the fact that they are born again..even when your are talking about the weather!Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: Infohawk
I am trying to see if he is a born-again... HE started talking about his religion. Only seems fair others can follow up on it.
Real nice, coming from someone who doesn't know the meaning of "born again". (I'll give you a hint, it doesn't mean you're fundamantalist, pentecostal, whacko Christian.)
No, most FUNDAMENTALISTS like to tell everyone they're born again. The definition of a Christian is to be born again. Most Christians would tell you they are born again. Not all Christians are fundamentalist weirdos though.
Come on Red, what kind of wishy washy answer is that? Jump on the liberal bandwagon! Everyone who voted for Bush is a fundamental wackjob! It's fun, you can do it!
Intimately.
When I met my husband, I had to become born again to be accepted by him and his family. Then I spent the next two years getting to live with them and find out more about their inner workings and motivations.
After years of individual and marriage counseling, my husband and I have finally recovered from the brain washing.
Watch the movie "Saved!". My daughter asked my husband if it was an exaggeration, and he said
"Not really."
<---been among them
When I met my husband, I had to become born again to be accepted by him and his family. Then I spent the next two years getting to live with them and find out more about their inner workings and motivations.
After years of individual and marriage counseling, my husband and I have finally recovered from the brain washing.
Watch the movie "Saved!". My daughter asked my husband if it was an exaggeration, and he said
"Not really."
<---been among them
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