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Czar

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeonIt's God's will that I try to save a few of you from wasting your life as a communist or a socialist.
Wow, when people like that come to my house there are usualy two of them in shirts and wearing a tie, they also usualy have one backpack with them. I usualy nod a few times and close the door as quickly as I can.
 

heartsurgeon

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hey cousin!!
you gotta invite me in when i come to ring your doorbell!

i promise to leave the backpack at home, and not wear a tie.
 

Czar

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and hs, I keep asking for that name of your relative so I could look it up, where is it?
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Romans828
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As best I can tell there are 7 total conservatives on all of AT.


Total might not actually be that high, I cross post under three names

Oh really? Do the mods know about this?
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: DoubleL
As it says and why do you stay, Would just like to know

Why? Do you feel better in a pack? Yeah, that's probably it. ;)

Just for the record, I have no problem with fiscal conservatives whatsoever. In fact, I have nothing but respect for them. Not much for them to like in this administration however. I sometimes wonder how they reconcile that . . . anyway, it's the social conservatives I have a real problem with. If I could only flip them all the bird using ascii art, I would. :p
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
True conservatives?

I'd say only a few post here.

Even the so called conservatives are actually collectivists. Most proclaimed conservatives don't seem to mind an income tax and the great lot of them want social security. Bush cuts income taxes a few percent and that's called conservatism, nevermind the tax code is enormous and processing it is a huge tax all in itself. Therefore, conservatism is a term that doesn't carry much weight, nor does liberalism. Conservatives and liberals are by and large collectivists, conservatives are just a shade lower on the collectivism scale.
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Ferocious
True conservatives?

I'd say only a few post here.

Even the so called conservatives are actually collectivists. Most proclaimed conservatives don't seem to mind an income tax and the great lot of them want social security. Bush cuts income taxes a few percent and that's called conservatism, nevermind the tax code is enormous and processing it is a huge tax all in itself. Therefore, conservatism is a term that doesn't carry much weight, nor does liberalism. Conservatives and liberals are by and large collectivists, conservatives are just a shade lower on the collectivism scale.


eh, I wouldnt say that, most conservatives i know want a complete overhaul of the tax system, want to do away with social security [completely, for those that get screwed (inculding myself) we say "oh well"]. we want the govt to perform its duties as outlined in the constitution, verbatim, no more of this trend of taking the implied powers too far. leave the social engineering to society, the churches, and the corporations. not the govt.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Ferocious
True conservatives?

I'd say only a few post here.

Even the so called conservatives are actually collectivists. Most proclaimed conservatives don't seem to mind an income tax and the great lot of them want social security. Bush cuts income taxes a few percent and that's called conservatism, nevermind the tax code is enormous and processing it is a huge tax all in itself. Therefore, conservatism is a term that doesn't carry much weight, nor does liberalism. Conservatives and liberals are by and large collectivists, conservatives are just a shade lower on the collectivism scale.


eh, I wouldnt say that, most conservatives i know want a complete overhaul of the tax system, want to do away with social security [completely, for those that get screwed (inculding myself) we say "oh well"]. we want the govt to perform its duties as outlined in the constitution, verbatim, no more of this trend of taking the implied powers too far. leave the social engineering to society, the churches, and the corporations. not the govt.

That's sounding more like Libertarianism, not conservatism. ;)
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Ferocious
True conservatives?

I'd say only a few post here.

Even the so called conservatives are actually collectivists. Most proclaimed conservatives don't seem to mind an income tax and the great lot of them want social security. Bush cuts income taxes a few percent and that's called conservatism, nevermind the tax code is enormous and processing it is a huge tax all in itself. Therefore, conservatism is a term that doesn't carry much weight, nor does liberalism. Conservatives and liberals are by and large collectivists, conservatives are just a shade lower on the collectivism scale.


eh, I wouldnt say that, most conservatives i know want a complete overhaul of the tax system, want to do away with social security [completely, for those that get screwed (inculding myself) we say "oh well"]. we want the govt to perform its duties as outlined in the constitution, verbatim, no more of this trend of taking the implied powers too far. leave the social engineering to society, the churches, and the corporations. not the govt.

That's sounding more like Libertarianism, not conservatism. ;)

i like to call it extreme conservatism :)
 

DoubleL

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Originally posted by: Corn>What does "why do I stay" mean exactly?

Even though Bush is not as conservative as I would prefer, there are no other alternatives that more closely resemble my sensibilities than the Republican Party. The current presidential administration is but one facet of the party and by no means defines it.

It's not like I'm going to go liberal because Bush isn't conservative enough. Not going Libertarian either, I like the interstate highway system and do believe that while the scope of our Federal government does overreach what it was originally intended, real life in the modern world does necessitate a certain amount of Federal interventionalism. Libertarians are too far right where the role of the Federal government is concerned IMHO
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Why do you stay, On AT not the conservative thinking, That is a core you can't leave and come back to, My mother always told me never stay anywhere you are not welcome and conservatives are sure not welcomed on AT, This is not a forum on politics&news, It is a place to bash Bush, Reps, conservatives, Christians and soldiers, You are right about Bush not being a true conservative but he is the best we have in the race I think


 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: DoubleL
Originally posted by: Corn>What does "why do I stay" mean exactly?

Even though Bush is not as conservative as I would prefer, there are no other alternatives that more closely resemble my sensibilities than the Republican Party. The current presidential administration is but one facet of the party and by no means defines it.

It's not like I'm going to go liberal because Bush isn't conservative enough. Not going Libertarian either, I like the interstate highway system and do believe that while the scope of our Federal government does overreach what it was originally intended, real life in the modern world does necessitate a certain amount of Federal interventionalism. Libertarians are too far right where the role of the Federal government is concerned IMHO
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Why do you stay, On AT not the conservative thinking, That is a core you can't leave and come back to, My mother always told me never stay anywhere you are not welcome and conservatives are sure not welcomed on AT, This is not a forum on politics&news, It is a place to bash Bush, Reps, conservatives, Christians and soldiers, You are right about Bush not being a true conservative but he is the best we have in the race I think


Then why do you stay?
 

SuperTool

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I see a lot of neocons and borrow and spenders, but not so many true conservatives on this board.
 

DoubleL

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Apr 3, 2001
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Why do I stay

I can't answer that, Maybe to try and put some truth in every now and then, To stand up for what I believe, I am thinking of hanging it up though, Just to old for this anymore
 

AEB

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I am a Larry Elder republican, which is in essence what the republicans are supposed to be. Small government, personal responsiblity etc.
I stay to see if people can really be blind to reality and im not dissapointed. I dont post that often because reading what some people write depresses me severly.


As an off topic Bush is not a republican he is a politician. No republican would be doing what he is doing with the mexicans, or increases in government cheese.
 

zantac

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Back when I was a kid I supported Goldwater. I wasn't old enough to vote, but I sure enough hated them commies. Then I spent some time 'vacationing' in vietnam where I "reflected" on my ideals. Suffice to say I changed my mind ;)

But to answer the topic of this thread, I'd say that there are very few conservatives on this board. I'd guess 1/5 of politically oriented posts are from conservative members.