How many are getting an Apple watch?

[kpkp]

You'll know whether or not your theory is true if places like CNET or The Verge end up missing out on early access to the next iPhone. I'm not counting on it.

The Verge didn't get the 5S and one could argue that's when they started being even nicer to Apple then before and the iVerge nomenclature was born.

That being said, I find their watch review fair, if you mentally censure a few phrases of dauntless Apple superiority like:

• It’s easily the best smartwatch display on the market
• There’s no question that the Apple Watch is the most capable smartwatch available today
• If the Apple Watch had no other functionality except for what you can do from the watch face, it would still be competitive.
• Easily the nicest smartwatch available

The general and obvious double standard reviewers have with Apple, as no one ever calls their gimmicks for what they are.
If Samsung made the exact same watch features reviewers would ridicule them about "creepy heartbeat sharing", "wrist taps"...

 

[WelshBloke]

Yeah, way to cherry pick.

Hey I'm not the one cherry picking the most positive review out of a bunch of reviewers that were already cherry picked.

And even then when you take all the fluff out of that quote you're left with a glaring 'when these encounters worked'.

 

[openwheel]

Because the Apple Watch has the tightest integration between watch and phone. Something that Google can't yet offer until they come out with their watch.

Here's a list of reasons why the Apple Watch is more functional than a "fine Swiss watch".

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/09/t...ss-but-only-after-a-steep-learning-curve.html

The argument here is not whether "Apple has tightest integration". My argument here is that integrating iPhone with another computer strapped to a wrist is NOT a good idea to begin with. It's a money maker for Apple, absolutely Yes, but from a consumer's point of view, No, especially for those who understand and appreciate mechanical watches.

There are Honda Civics with all the latest and greatest apps, but I prefer my NSX. Having "more function" does not translate directly to "being more functional".

 

[openwheel]

- A light weight, none intrusive, multi-functional and comfortable fitness tracker that
gathers and syncs with iPhone? Yes please, heck why can't they built iPod into this????
- Vehicle integration with iPhone via voice recognition and gestures? Yes please.

iWatch? Get the %$#% out of here!

 

[openwheel]

(probably) Off-topic: where does this watch belong in the watch food pyramid? Out of curiosity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nGdS2jXHwQ

Almost top of the food chain. In car terms, that would be a modern BMW 535i in black. Being German and all...

 

[Commodus]

The Verge didn't get the 5S and one could argue that's when they started being even nicer to Apple then before and the iVerge nomenclature was born.

That being said, I find their watch review fair, if you mentally censure a few phrases of dauntless Apple superiority like:

• It’s easily the best smartwatch display on the market
• There’s no question that the Apple Watch is the most capable smartwatch available today
• If the Apple Watch had no other functionality except for what you can do from the watch face, it would still be competitive.
• Easily the nicest smartwatch available

The general and obvious double standard reviewers have with Apple, as no one ever calls their gimmicks for what they are.
If Samsung made the exact same watch features reviewers would ridicule them about "creepy heartbeat sharing", "wrist taps"...

But those aren't necessarily "phrases of dauntless Apple superiority." Those strike me as rational (if slightly hyperbolic) observations based on first-hand experience.

Here's the answer to your concerns about all of those points: Nilay has used the Apple Watch extensively. You haven't even seen it in person yet. How do you know those are cheerleader statements when the reviewer is infinitely more knowledgeable about the device than you are?

 

[openwheel]

But those aren't necessarily "phrases of dauntless Apple superiority." Those strike me as rational (if slightly hyperbolic) observations based on first-hand experience.

Here's the answer to your concerns about all of those points: Nilay has used the Apple Watch extensively. You haven't even seen it in person yet. How do you know those are cheerleader statements when the reviewer is infinitely more knowledgeable about the device than you are?

Because the reviewer has a history of being a cheerleader for Apple. We've all read/watched enough Verge reviews to know who to trust. It's overwhelming especially in their early podcasts.

 

[Ramses]

not very nice compilation of bad review points from the UK, linked off the [H]
http://uk.businessinsider.com/apple-watch-reviews-are-bad-2015-4

The one about needing two hands to use it made me chuckle, not just at the apple watch especially but in general..

 

[preslove]

Honestly, I think smart watches are going to be 3D tv type of technology, where the major players in an industry are looking for growth by making a new class of product that only has limited appeal to consumers. So, Apple having the best smartwatch in the market is kind of like sony having the best 3d tv...

I think the worst thing from the reviews is the lag, especially for the clock face waking up when you turn your wrist. There are going to be so many twitter/youtube/facebook complaints that it's going to get into the regular media. Though, I'm sure Apple will sell out of their initial production run and make back most, if not all, of their development costs because of the ridiculous profit margins they have. I just think that after the initial euphoria of a new apple product, demand just won't be there like it is for phones and tablets.

 

[touchstone]

I'm just gonna throw $349 for the sport and write it off. My sister is letting me borrow her old 5C, we will see how much of this is Apple BS and how much is legit.

 

[Commodus]

Because the reviewer has a history of being a cheerleader for Apple. We've all read/watched enough Verge reviews to know who to trust. It's overwhelming especially in their early podcasts.

He also gave the Watch a 7, and the site as a whole gives many non-Apple devices good reviews frequently (the Galaxy S6, HTC One M9, Nexus 6, Android Lollipop)... want to try again?

And again, he's tried it for a week, while you've never even seen it. You can excuse and justify all you want, but your argument has no teeth until you strap a Watch on your wrist and live with it for a significant amount of time.

 

[openwheel]

He also gave the Watch a 7, and the site as a whole gives many non-Apple devices good reviews frequently (the Galaxy S6, HTC One M9, Nexus 6, Android Lollipop)... want to try again?

And again, he's tried it for a week, while you've never even seen it. You can excuse and justify all you want, but your argument has no teeth until you strap a Watch on your wrist and live with it for a significant amount of time.

Bad analogy, you are basically saying they have given out some good reviews to some Android devices, therefore they are not bias. So I'll try again, the Verge is not often called iVerge for no reason, their reviews have a history of being crucified for being extremely pro-Apple (especially few of the younger editors). Josh T still has my respect, but I think he can hire better people.

I guess we, the nay sayer must STFU since we don't own one. Got it.
Truth is, a turd is a turd, is a turd. You can polish it all day, it's still a turd.

 

[stlc8tr]

The argument here is not whether "Apple has tightest integration". My argument here is that integrating iPhone with another computer strapped to a wrist is NOT a good idea to begin with. It's a money maker for Apple, absolutely Yes, but from a consumer's point of view, No, especially for those who understand and appreciate mechanical watches.

There are Honda Civics with all the latest and greatest apps, but I prefer my NSX. Having "more function" does not translate directly to "being more functional".

Name one thing that your mechanical watch does better than a smart watch.

 

[openwheel]

Name one thing that your mechanical watch does better than a smart watch.

I can actually get laid.

 

[openwheel]

Name one thing that your mechanical watch does better than a smart watch.

Joking aside: It holds value better.

Would you take a Kia over a 1964 Mustang because the Kia makes coffee and talks to Siri?

 

[preslove]

Name one thing that your mechanical watch does better than a smart watch.

My mechanical watch will tell me the time at a glance. Apparently, you have to wait a second or two and stare to get the time with an Apple Watch. Also, if I'm making tea, I can watch the second hand for more than 10 seconds...

 

[Nebor]

I can actually get laid.

Tinder app on Apple Watch with gesture enabled swiping left and right. Check and mate. :whiste:

 

[vi edit]

Name one thing that your mechanical watch does better than a smart watch.

It's not a paperweight by the end of the day and needing to be recharged?

 

[openwheel]

Once I park my car and add $2 to the meter, I can quickly turn my bezel to start counting time (or one push of a button with a chronograph). How long does it take to open an app with Apple Watch? Assuming you can actually see the screen under direct sun and there is enough juice in the battery.

 

[touchstone]

So your watch can tell the time? Amazing.

 

[preslove]

So your watch can tell the time? Amazing.

Yeah, that's what a watch is for. Unfortunately, the apple watch isn't very good at that.

I think Apple is going to sell a lot of these, but sales are going to plateau and go down after a while. I just don't think there is much of a market for these things beyond fitness/activity tracking.

 

[vi edit]

I just don't think there is much of a market for these things beyond fitness/activity tracking.

Which it kinda sucks at vs. other more dedicated fitness trackers.

 

[Ramses]

Once I park my car and add $2 to the meter, I can quickly turn my bezel to start counting time (or one push of a button with a chronograph). How long does it take to open an app with Apple Watch? Assuming you can actually see the screen under direct sun and there is enough juice in the battery.

it isn't quite seamless or perfect, at all, but between motorola and google I have pretty decent luck doing that sort of thing handsfree with my phone these days. when I'm alone I usually have my bluetooth earpiece in so it works pretty well. no hands or watch required. That's the kinda thing I'm looking for honestly, not another device to have to interact with, even if it's not in my pocket, it's still yet another screen.

 

[Nebor]

Yeah, that's what a watch is for. Unfortunately, the apple watch isn't very good at that.

I think Apple is going to sell a lot of these, but sales are going to plateau and go down after a while. I just don't think there is much of a market for these things beyond fitness/activity tracking.

Well an iPhone is better at taking pictures of food and finding nearby dudes to suck your dick than it is at making phone calls, but people still buy it.

 

[preslove]

Well an iPhone is better at taking pictures of food and finding nearby dudes to suck your dick than it is at making phone calls, but people still buy it.

It's just a watch, mang, calm down.