How long to stay on basic SS routine?

[Jack Ryan]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Geeze.. is "Starting Strength" and anything else by Rippetoe the answer to every question here?

When he came up with the routine the OP is asking about and the exact routine is outlined in the book, then yes. Only seems logical...

Here = Health and Fitness forum

Also, the OP is asking about when to END that routine.

People respond to every post here with "check out this Starting Strength book" like lemmings. Not logical to me, but then again, I think for myself.

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Here = Health and Fitness forum

Also, the OP is asking about when to END that routine.

People respond to every post here with "check out this Starting Strength book" like lemmings. Not logical to me, but then again, I think for myself.

Um, so let me get this straight. Someone doing the Starting Strength routine comes in here and asks how long he should stay on it, and somehow we are wrong to refer him to the Starting Strength book which answers that very question? How is that not an appropriate answer?

Also, I don't know if you've read the book, but it contains a TON of material relevant to 99% of the weight lifting questions asked on this forum. Why? Because 99% of the people on this forum are relative newbies, which is the exact target audience of the (second edition of) the book. Moreover, it's (a) extremely well written, (b) thoroughly researched and (c) endorsed by the community. By contrast, whatever you come up with when you "think for yourself" is not going to be any of the above. So, you know what? When I want the correct answer to a question, I'll be happy to be a "lemming" and follow professional advice.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Geeze.. is "Starting Strength" and anything else by Rippetoe the answer to every question here?

When he came up with the routine the OP is asking about and the exact routine is outlined in the book, then yes. Only seems logical...

Here = Health and Fitness forum

Also, the OP is asking about when to END that routine.

People respond to every post here with "check out this Starting Strength book" like lemmings. Not logical to me, but then again, I think for myself.

This post is perhaps the biggest fail in regarding the SS charades. The OP is doing the SS program. This is why people are telling him to refer to the book. The OP is a beginner and a linear program like this is going to give him the most gains possible. He could do the same program in a 5x5 form as well, but there's nothing that's gonna benefit him more. If you can find a program that will, you let me know and I'll start suggesting that one. Until then, I'm going to refer the OP on the SS program to the SS book. Make sense?

PS: Lemming suicide is a myth. Don't make retarded analogies 😛

 

[Jack Ryan]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: Jack Ryan

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Geeze.. is "Starting Strength" and anything else by Rippetoe the answer to every question here?

When he came up with the routine the OP is asking about and the exact routine is outlined in the book, then yes. Only seems logical...

Here = Health and Fitness forum

Also, the OP is asking about when to END that routine.

People respond to every post here with "check out this Starting Strength book" like lemmings. Not logical to me, but then again, I think for myself.

This post is perhaps the biggest fail in regarding the SS charades. The OP is doing the SS program. This is why people are telling him to refer to the book. The OP is a beginner and a linear program like this is going to give him the most gains possible. He could do the same program in a 5x5 form as well, but there's nothing that's gonna benefit him more. If you can find a program that will, you let me know and I'll start suggesting that one. Until then, I'm going to refer the OP on the SS program to the SS book. Make sense?

PS: Lemming suicide is a myth. Don't make retarded analogies 😛

Look, I like to browse this forum from time to time. Many of the threads here turn out to some sort of pushing of anything Rippetoe does. The first rule in giving any advice is finding out what someone's goal is.

I admit, choosing to "vent" in this thread was a poor choice since it actually is on topic. But if some people take the blinders off and just take a second to notice how many times his name/book are mentioned, they would just laugh.

Not everyone here is 6'1" 150 and needs to gain 50lbs. Not everyone wants to squat 2x their body weight. There are many people that just want to be healthy and athletic.

All I'd like to see is a little more discussion about goals here and less "latest hot item".

Since you wanted another book.


Lemmings 🙂

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Look, I like to browse this forum from time to time. Many of the threads here turn out to some sort of pushing of anything Rippetoe does. The first rule in giving any advice is finding out what someone's goal is.

It's worth noting that although SS probably is mentioned most often, Stronglifts 5x5, Bill Starr 5x5, and Crossfit are recommended frequently as well.

Originally posted by: Jack Ryan
Not everyone here is 6'1" 150 and needs to gain 50lbs. Not everyone wants to squat 2x their body weight. There are many people that just want to be healthy and athletic.

It doesn't matter if you're 6'1" 150 and need to gain 50lbs of 6'1" 250 and need to lose 50lbs. If you're a beginner, Starting Strength (with a proper diet) is one of the most effective ways to increase your strength and add or maintain muscle mass. I think it goes without saying that this makes it a superb way to become "healthy and athletic".

What you need to understand is that I'm not recommending it because it's a "fad". I'm not telling people to do SS because squatting 2x your body weight is some magical skill everyone must have. I recommended it because when you can squat 2x your body weight, you'll look and perform the way someone with that kind of strength should.

Does that mean SS is the best option for everyone? Of course not. I mentioned above several other alternatives that are also excellent choices. Moreover, if you had a professional strength training coach available, you could probably tailor a routine that is ideal for a specific person's goals, body type, etc. However, the average newbie just doesn't have this kind of resource, so I recommend the next best thing, which is a general reference book written by a professional strength training coach, endorsed by other professionals, and widely accepted by the community. I'm sorry if you're sick of hearing it recommended over and over again, but it's a damn good answer for >90%+ of the people that ask questions on this forum, so you'll just have to put up with it or offer up something definitively better.

 

[ultra laser]

The starting strength routine works. When I started, I was squatting 115 x 5 and weighed 160 lbs. Now I'm squatting 285 x 5 and weigh 195 lbs. Now I'm making gains on the Bill Starr 5x5 program outlined here: http://www.geocities.com/elite...Program/Linear_5x5.htm. There's a lot of good info on this site, so read up.