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Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.


Or so you're brainwashed to believe.
 

xSauronx

Lifer
Jul 14, 2000
19,582
4
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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

you might know YOU cant be

but i disagree
 

Hankerton

Golden Member
Apr 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

ROFLMAO.......hahahahahaa

hahahahaah

<catches breathe>

hahahahahah

okay, sorry, I'm done now.
 
Feb 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

LOL, that's what you've been told to believe, I'm sure, but I can assure you there's no truth to it. Yes, some folks DO destroy themselves that way, but the fact is that plenty of folks destroy themselves as overzealous Christians, Jews, Muslims (ESPECIALLY Muslims).

As for Christ, I've studied his life and teachings extensively, and I don't think that most CHRISTIANS understand his work at all. All they're interested in, for the most part, is escaping the dread they feel about the fact that one day they're going to die. I don't fear it, and I don't fear God nor Jesus, nor will I ever. I think he was an interesting philosopher who did a good job of distilling the essence of a true and sublime morality into a simple concept: Do unto others as you would have done unto you. The frauds who followed him, including that bastard Saul/Paul, did nothing more than distort his teachings to the point where it's a load of work to extract the truth of it.

It's unfortunate that Jesus committed the sin of never writing down his own teachings.

Jason
 

xSauronx

Lifer
Jul 14, 2000
19,582
4
81
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

*snip*

It's unfortunate that Jesus committed the sin of never writing down his own teachings.

so youre saying he was lazy?

hey everyone, im just like jesus!
 
Feb 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

*snip*

It's unfortunate that Jesus committed the sin of never writing down his own teachings.

so youre saying he was lazy?

hey everyone, im just like jesus!

LOL, I didn't say he was *lazy*. People in that time didn't have *time* to be lazy like we do today. I'm just saying that the best philosophers wrote their own stuff down. Heck, even a great philosopher like Socrates didn't write down his own teachings, though Plato and Aristotle did.

Jason
 

Hankerton

Golden Member
Apr 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

LOL, that's what you've been told to believe, I'm sure, but I can assure you there's no truth to it. Yes, some folks DO destroy themselves that way, but the fact is that plenty of folks destroy themselves as overzealous Christians, Jews, Muslims (ESPECIALLY Muslims).

As for Christ, I've studied his life and teachings extensively, and I don't think that most CHRISTIANS understand his work at all. All they're interested in, for the most part, is escaping the dread they feel about the fact that one day they're going to die. I don't fear it, and I don't fear God nor Jesus, nor will I ever. I think he was an interesting philosopher who did a good job of distilling the essence of a true and sublime morality into a simple concept: Do unto others as you would have done unto you. The frauds who followed him, including that bastard Saul/Paul, did nothing more than distort his teachings to the point where it's a load of work to extract the truth of it.

It's unfortunate that Jesus committed the sin of never writing down his own teachings.

Jason

That was exceptionally well put. I didn't want to go into a tirade about organized religion. I think you made some very good points without bashing someones belief's.

:beer::cookie: to you sir.
 

xSauronx

Lifer
Jul 14, 2000
19,582
4
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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

*snip*

It's unfortunate that Jesus committed the sin of never writing down his own teachings.

so youre saying he was lazy?

hey everyone, im just like jesus!

LOL, I didn't say he was *lazy*. People in that time didn't have *time* to be lazy like we do today. I'm just saying that the best philosophers wrote their own stuff down. Heck, even a great philosopher like Socrates didn't write down his own teachings, though Plato and Aristotle did.

Jason

fine

but im doing my yardwork saturday and making my claim again
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
74,580
982
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Yes, repression is the best answer. After all, look how well it's worked for the Catholic priests.

<--Been happy for almost all of my life without the help of religion.
 
Feb 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Hankerton
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

LOL, that's what you've been told to believe, I'm sure, but I can assure you there's no truth to it. Yes, some folks DO destroy themselves that way, but the fact is that plenty of folks destroy themselves as overzealous Christians, Jews, Muslims (ESPECIALLY Muslims).

As for Christ, I've studied his life and teachings extensively, and I don't think that most CHRISTIANS understand his work at all. All they're interested in, for the most part, is escaping the dread they feel about the fact that one day they're going to die. I don't fear it, and I don't fear God nor Jesus, nor will I ever. I think he was an interesting philosopher who did a good job of distilling the essence of a true and sublime morality into a simple concept: Do unto others as you would have done unto you. The frauds who followed him, including that bastard Saul/Paul, did nothing more than distort his teachings to the point where it's a load of work to extract the truth of it.

It's unfortunate that Jesus committed the sin of never writing down his own teachings.

Jason

That was exceptionally well put. I didn't want to go into a tirade about organized religion. I think you made some very good points without bashing someones belief's.

:beer::cookie: to you sir.

Why, thank you my good fellow :) I'll drink the beer now and save the cookie for later, when I've got some nice, cold lactose-free milk to dunk it in :)

Jason
 

Crono

Lifer
Aug 8, 2001
23,720
1,502
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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

LOL, that's what you've been told to believe, I'm sure, but I can assure you there's no truth to it. Yes, some folks DO destroy themselves that way, but the fact is that plenty of folks destroy themselves as overzealous Christians, Jews, Muslims (ESPECIALLY Muslims).

As for Christ, I've studied his life and teachings extensively, and I don't think that most CHRISTIANS understand his work at all. All they're interested in, for the most part, is escaping the dread they feel about the fact that one day they're going to die. I don't fear it, and I don't fear God nor Jesus, nor will I ever. I think he was an interesting philosopher who did a good job of distilling the essence of a true and sublime morality into a simple concept: Do unto others as you would have done unto you. The frauds who followed him, including that bastard Saul/Paul, did nothing more than distort his teachings to the point where it's a load of work to extract the truth of it.

It's unfortunate that Jesus committed the sin of never writing down his own teachings.

Jason

Actually, I know plenty of people who's lives were destroyed by sin, and I bet you do too: you end seeing them on tv and in newspaper headlines. Unless you have a relationship with Jesus Christ, and have accepted Him as your personal saviour, reading the Bible is good, but you won't be able understand it fully nor appreciate the truths within it. You're right that "do unto others" is important, but even more important is to "love God with all thine heart, and all thy soul, and with all thy might".

I'm not afraid of death. Sure, I would prefer not to die a horrible painful death, but I'm not afraid of dying because I know who is in control of all things and where my final destination is. As Jesus said, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16)".

Most people are misled and decieved about Christianity, or they just want to ignore and disbelief that God exists and live in sin. Satan is the prince of this world, and it is why there are so many false religions, theologies, and ideas leading away from Christ. The gate to salvation is narrow, and unfortunately, few enter it: I am happy to be one of those few.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
74,580
982
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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

LOL, that's what you've been told to believe, I'm sure, but I can assure you there's no truth to it. Yes, some folks DO destroy themselves that way, but the fact is that plenty of folks destroy themselves as overzealous Christians, Jews, Muslims (ESPECIALLY Muslims).

As for Christ, I've studied his life and teachings extensively, and I don't think that most CHRISTIANS understand his work at all. All they're interested in, for the most part, is escaping the dread they feel about the fact that one day they're going to die. I don't fear it, and I don't fear God nor Jesus, nor will I ever. I think he was an interesting philosopher who did a good job of distilling the essence of a true and sublime morality into a simple concept: Do unto others as you would have done unto you. The frauds who followed him, including that bastard Saul/Paul, did nothing more than distort his teachings to the point where it's a load of work to extract the truth of it.

It's unfortunate that Jesus committed the sin of never writing down his own teachings.

Jason

Actually, I know plenty of people who's lives were destroyed by sin, and I bet you do too: you end seeing them on tv and in newspaper headlines. Unless you have a relationship with Jesus Christ, and have accepted Him as your personal saviour, reading the Bible is good, you won't be able understand it fully nor appreciate the truths within it. You're right that "do unto others" is important, but even more important is to "love God with all thine heart, and all thy soul, and with all thy might".

I'm not afraid of death. Sure, I would prefer not to die a horrible painful death, but I'm not afraid of dying because I know who is in control of all things and where my final destination is.

Wow, the brainwash is strong with this one...
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
62,785
18,976
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Originally posted by: Crono
Actually, I know plenty of people who's lives were destroyed by sin, and I bet you do too: you end seeing them on tv and in newspaper headlines. Unless you have a relationship with Jesus Christ, and have accepted Him as your personal saviour, reading the Bible is good, you won't be able understand it fully nor appreciate the truths within it. You're right that "do unto others" is important, but even more important is to "love God with all thine heart, and all thy soul, and with all thy might".

I'm not afraid of death. Sure, I would prefer not to die a horrible painful death, but I'm not afraid of dying because I know who is in control of all things and where my final destination is.

You know how some people like black licorice, and some people don't?
This is the same way. It's great for you that this works for you. But it does not work for everyone, and not everyone needs to take the same path. Again, good that it makes you happy, but putting it in this light does not endear you to anyone (except like-minded people).
 

sixone

Lifer
May 3, 2004
25,030
5
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Originally posted by: Hankerton
omg, i'm sorry, I'm glad you found yourself in religion, but honestly, your post just made me throw up a little bit in my mouth.

I'm not trying to be hateful, I just have a huuuge problem with religion in general.

Gave me a laugh though....hahaha, whenever I feel horny I'll revert to the bible!!

Then why did you open this thread - just to crap in it and on the OP? :disgust:
I don't understand why some of you feel the need to flame on religion and religious people. Is this the diversity we're supposed to worship in the US? :roll:
 

Platypus

Lifer
Apr 26, 2001
31,046
321
136
this thread would make me shake my head in disbelief if I wasn't so used to this kind of behavior :roll:
 

dc

Diamond Member
Nov 26, 1999
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heh, i'm surprised it took this long to turn into a Christianity flame fest.
 

xSauronx

Lifer
Jul 14, 2000
19,582
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

LOL, that's what you've been told to believe, I'm sure, but I can assure you there's no truth to it. Yes, some folks DO destroy themselves that way, but the fact is that plenty of folks destroy themselves as overzealous Christians, Jews, Muslims (ESPECIALLY Muslims).

As for Christ, I've studied his life and teachings extensively, and I don't think that most CHRISTIANS understand his work at all. All they're interested in, for the most part, is escaping the dread they feel about the fact that one day they're going to die. I don't fear it, and I don't fear God nor Jesus, nor will I ever. I think he was an interesting philosopher who did a good job of distilling the essence of a true and sublime morality into a simple concept: Do unto others as you would have done unto you. The frauds who followed him, including that bastard Saul/Paul, did nothing more than distort his teachings to the point where it's a load of work to extract the truth of it.

It's unfortunate that Jesus committed the sin of never writing down his own teachings.

Jason

Actually, I know plenty of people who's lives were destroyed by sin, and I bet you do too: you end seeing them on tv and in newspaper headlines. Unless you have a relationship with Jesus Christ, and have accepted Him as your personal saviour, reading the Bible is good, you won't be able understand it fully nor appreciate the truths within it. You're right that "do unto others" is important, but even more important is to "love God with all thine heart, and all thy soul, and with all thy might".

I'm not afraid of death. Sure, I would prefer not to die a horrible painful death, but I'm not afraid of dying because I know who is in control of all things and where my final destination is.

Wow, the brainwash is strong with this one...

i used to think the same things, just like he did. its strange to think back and realize i was like that at one point.

im glad im not anymore. such certainty about religion and death reminds me of a one-man rowan atkinson sketch wherein he plays the devil, indoctrinating the new souls in hell.

he goes over, as i recall, lawyers, thieves, murderers and at the very end to end the sketch, christians. to the christians he says something along the lines of "yes dont be so surprised, you see the JEWS were right"

i have a vid clip of it somewhere, im far too lazy to try finding it, nevermind getting the vid uploaded if i do have it.
 

Hankerton

Golden Member
Apr 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Hankerton
omg, i'm sorry, I'm glad you found yourself in religion, but honestly, your post just made me throw up a little bit in my mouth.

I'm not trying to be hateful, I just have a huuuge problem with religion in general.

Gave me a laugh though....hahaha, whenever I feel horny I'll revert to the bible!!

Then why did you open this thread - just to crap in it and on the OP? :disgust:
I don't understand why some of you feel the need to flame on religion and religious people. Is this the diversity we're supposed to worship in the US? :roll:

Oh no, not at all. I'm fascinated by this thread actually. I would love to sit down and pick the brain of the OP, but since I can't do that, I just want to bear witness to the naivety. I don't mean to sound vicious, but you're not going to find many devout bible thumping christians with a ton of diverse life experiences. You can argue that all you want, but I'm convinced thats the truth.
 

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you know what is funny, a dog will screw a balloon through instinct, but you cannot even think of screwing a woman.

instict > though, go get a balloon brother!!
 

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Originally posted by: Hankerton
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Hankerton
omg, i'm sorry, I'm glad you found yourself in religion, but honestly, your post just made me throw up a little bit in my mouth.

I'm not trying to be hateful, I just have a huuuge problem with religion in general.

Gave me a laugh though....hahaha, whenever I feel horny I'll revert to the bible!!

Then why did you open this thread - just to crap in it and on the OP? :disgust:
I don't understand why some of you feel the need to flame on religion and religious people. Is this the diversity we're supposed to worship in the US? :roll:

Oh no, not at all. I'm fascinated by this thread actually. I would love to sit down and pick the brain of the OP, but since I can't do that, I just want to bear witness to the naivety. I don't mean to sound vicious, but you're not going to find many devout bible thumping christians with a ton of diverse life experiences. You can argue that all you want, but I'm convinced thats the truth.

That may be true, but what does it have to do with the price of beans in China? :confused:
 
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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: platinumike
Iam a Christian, and I have been struggling with lusting be it in person or in pictures/movies. I've found that the best method is to just act like a Women's gorgeous behind or rack isnt there and completely ignore it, also when it comes to p0rn and what not, I find the best method is to just keep busy at all time, and not actually surf the net, usually when i get bored i go look at p0rn or something. ---Now heres my question, how is a man supposed to contain himself sexually? if sex before marriage is wrong, masturbation is wrong, then there is no way for a man to relieve himself without sinning? The build up of sexual tension is so strong, that to relieve it is like a natural process just like using the bathroom or something. I think God intended us to all have wives at age 16 or so..so we wouldnt have theese problems in our later years.

I don't even bother trying *not* to lust. Why should I? If she's hot enough to lust after, I lust away, happily and proudly. Often, my GF, who's Bi, also sits there and lusts.

At least, until the movie's over, then it's horizontal mambo time :)

Jason

All I have to say is living that type of life just leads to self destruction, and I know that you can't be truly happy without CHrist in your life.

LOL, that's what you've been told to believe, I'm sure, but I can assure you there's no truth to it. Yes, some folks DO destroy themselves that way, but the fact is that plenty of folks destroy themselves as overzealous Christians, Jews, Muslims (ESPECIALLY Muslims).

As for Christ, I've studied his life and teachings extensively, and I don't think that most CHRISTIANS understand his work at all. All they're interested in, for the most part, is escaping the dread they feel about the fact that one day they're going to die. I don't fear it, and I don't fear God nor Jesus, nor will I ever. I think he was an interesting philosopher who did a good job of distilling the essence of a true and sublime morality into a simple concept: Do unto others as you would have done unto you. The frauds who followed him, including that bastard Saul/Paul, did nothing more than distort his teachings to the point where it's a load of work to extract the truth of it.

It's unfortunate that Jesus committed the sin of never writing down his own teachings.

Jason

Actually, I know plenty of people who's lives were destroyed by sin, and I bet you do too: you end seeing them on tv and in newspaper headlines. Unless you have a relationship with Jesus Christ, and have accepted Him as your personal saviour, reading the Bible is good, you won't be able understand it fully nor appreciate the truths within it. You're right that "do unto others" is important, but even more important is to "love God with all thine heart, and all thy soul, and with all thy might".

I'm not afraid of death. Sure, I would prefer not to die a horrible painful death, but I'm not afraid of dying because I know who is in control of all things and where my final destination is.

Certainly people's lives are destroyed by sin; where we differ is in our definition of what constitutes sin. I would define sin as being that which is clearly and obviously destructive of one's own life and values relative to one's life (which would naturally include the people and causes about which you care). A Christian would define sin as acting contrary to God's will.

I would submit to you, however, that it is impossible to know the full extent of God's will, and the Bible will not help you to decipher it. The most important concept in the New Testament is, by far, "Do unto others as you would have done to you". That single sentence encapsulates the entirety of a just and rational morality in which men can live in *freedom*. The twisted words of the men who claimed to follow Jesus, including Saul/Paul, who never even *met* Jesus, are geared to twisting that concept and piling others on top which inevitably lead one to believe that a state of *slavery* is in fact moral. I reject slavery in any form, and I reject the notion that the essence of morality is self-sacrifice.

Sacrifice, by definition, means "to give up, renounce or destroy". Self-sacrifice, therefore, means "give up, renounce or destroy oneself". The notion that self-sacrifice=morality is a contradiction not just in terms, but of concept. A person should regard themselves with esteem, with admiration, with love, which means that they must work to be the sort of person who is worthy of those things in order to view themselves in such a light.

Only the person who holds *himself* in high regard is able to hold others in high regard. Finding happiness is a broad concept, and the methods through which happiness can be found will vary from person to person, as we are all unique and treasure different people and things, including ourselves, to different degrees and for different reasons.

In short, there is no such thing as "the one true way" to find happiness.

Jason