How Long Before The Sleeping Sheeple Finally Wake Up?

[WelshBloke]

Posts poll to gain peoples opinion and says "Feel free to elaborate further your opinions beyond just answering the poll dates."

Gets butthurt when people dont agree with him.

:thumbsup: Nice one OP.

 

[SlickSnake]

Who told you an asteroid created the Gulf of Mexico?

Who told you that power going out globally would cause nuke reactors to blow up?

Gulf Asteroid:
http://www.utexas.edu/news/2010/03/04/mass_extinction/

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/04/science/la-sci-dinosaurs5-2010mar05

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater

EMP Electrical Blackouts:
http://www.naturalnews.com/033564_solar_flares_nuclear_power_plants.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/nuclea...ibility-of-a-global-nuclear-catastrophe/29951

http://truth-out.org/news/item/7301...electromagnetic-pulses-and-nuclear-armageddon

 

[Matt1970]

Read the rest of the news article HERE:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/survey-marks-2nd-year-crime-increases-20669881

http://investmentwatchblog.com/crim...in-america-increased-by-15-percent-last-year/

What?

The 2012 increases were driven by a rise in crimes that were not reported to police, a category frequently involving less-serious offenses.

Who the fuck did they report them to? They lost me at "I am making this shit up as I go along"

 

[umbrella39]

Go ahead and report me. I'm enjoying watching you whine about reporting people constantly, actually. I also loved hearing about how you think that there's a reporting conspiracy of people against you.

Here's another post for you to report:

You are a virulent, disgusting racist.

Isn't it hilarious how the most vehement racist on this forum relies so heavily on the report post button? What a walking, breathing, vagina.

 

[SlickSnake]

Posts poll to gain peoples opinion and says "Feel free to elaborate further your opinions beyond just answering the poll dates."

Gets butthurt when people dont agree with him.

:thumbsup: Nice one OP.

Some people are arguing crime stats with out even looking at the links or arguing their violent crime opinions based on personal observations about where they live. That's pretty myopic and needs to be pointed out.

 

[Matt1970]

Gulf Asteroid:
http://www.utexas.edu/news/2010/03/04/mass_extinction/

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/04/science/la-sci-dinosaurs5-2010mar05

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater

Wait a sec, your link actually has an illustration of the asteriod hitting the gulf waters that it created? And from that same link "a more than 200-kilometer-wide impact crater". The Gulf of Mexico is over 1,500 kilometers wide.

 

[z1ggy]

If you don't believe the crime stats being published by the FBI because that's just "the man" trying to keep you down.. but you also don't trust the media because they just feed you sensationalism, then who do you trust or believe? At that rate you're just a lune ranting on about conspiracy this or that, and the the end is near.

What does it really matter? What are the US people going to do about it as a whole? Jack shit, that's what. We will take it up the poopers until it's too late to do anything about it. Shit will never hit the fan. It will just slowly seep out of the overflowing toilet that America is becoming.

 

[Jaskalas]

Wait a sec, your link actually has an illustration of the asteriod hitting the gulf waters that it created? And from that same link "a more than 200-kilometer-wide impact crater". The Gulf of Mexico is over 1,500 kilometers wide.

Let's also gloss over the fact that half of it hit over the Yucatan. :awe:

It's from his own wiki link.

 

[SlickSnake]

Wait a sec, your link actually has an illustration of the asteriod hitting the gulf waters that it created? And from that same link "a more than 200-kilometer-wide impact crater". The Gulf of Mexico is over 1,500 kilometers wide.

The impact would have caused some of the largest megatsunamis in Earth's history. A cloud of super-heated dust, ash and steam would have spread from the crater as the impactor burrowed underground in less than a second.[24] Excavated material along with pieces of the impactor, ejected out of the atmosphere by the blast, would have been heated to incandescence upon re-entry, broiling the Earth's surface and possibly igniting wildfires; meanwhile, colossal shock waves would have triggered global earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.

The impactor had an estimated diameter of 10 km (6.2 mi) and delivered an estimated energy equivalent of 100 teratons of TNT (4.2×1023 J).[21] By contrast, the most powerful man-made explosive device ever detonated, the Tsar Bomba, had a yield of only 57 megatons of TNT (2.4×1017 J),[22] making the Chicxulub impact 2 million times more powerful. Even the most energetic known volcanic eruption, which released an estimated energy equivalent of approximately 240 gigatons of TNT (1.0×1021 J) and created the La Garita Caldera,[23] delivered only 0.24% of the energy of the Chicxulub impact.

Yea, all that combined just might blow out a big enough hole causing the ocean to rush in and the Gulf of Mexico to form when the land is blown out and later subsides below sea level. Notice the entire impact crater is no longer even above the surface of the Earth. The ground above it and part of the continental plate must have moved over it after it formed, too.

Obviously the Gulf of Mexico formed a near perfect bowl somehow, and after hundreds of thousands of hurricanes and millions of years later, those enormous impacts only helped to enlarge it and shape it like we see it now. Just look at how much sand just one medium strength hurricane like Sandy buried entire beach houses under just from strong high tides. Now imagine a megatsunami wall of water, sand and rocks possibly several miles high rushing away from the multiple impactors after they struck at an angle. That is, if they hit on water and not on land. If they hit just on land, this could have been what caused the entire Gulf to form in the first place. And since none of us were there, and the geologic record is somewhat incomplete, nobody can say 100% with certainty how it formed.

But please, by all means, don't let that stop any of you from arguing alternate theories. Like the Anunnaki made the Gulf millions of years ago while mining for gold to take back to their home world for their atmosphere because they managed to master space travel but not how to make lead bars into gold bars like the middle age alchemists did.

 

[Svnla]

Did I read about the FBI crime stats for last year (2012) went up (violent crime)?

Yup. Links = http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/17/us/violent-crime/


http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2012-crime-statistics

 

[fskimospy]

Did I read about the FBI crime stats for last year (2012) went up (violent crime)?

Yup. Links = http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/17/us/violent-crime/


http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2012-crime-statistics

What is your point?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Sorry but those are lies from the man intended to fool the sheepel into believing things are getting better. It's sad and pathetic but any facts posted will just be discounted if they don't support the OP's view that some armed conflict is coming.

so let me guess you are also a 9/11 truther...lol

 

[Matt1970]

Yea, all that combined just might blow out a big enough hole causing the ocean to rush in and the Gulf of Mexico to form when the land is blown out and later subsides below sea level. Notice the entire impact crater is no longer even above the surface of the Earth. The ground above it and part of the continental plate must have moved over it after it formed, too.

Obviously the Gulf of Mexico formed a near perfect bowl somehow, and after hundreds of thousands of hurricanes and millions of years later, those enormous impacts only helped to enlarge it and shape it like we see it now. Just look at how much sand just one medium strength hurricane like Sandy buried entire beach houses under just from strong high tides. Now imagine a megatsunami wall of water, sand and rocks possibly several miles high rushing away from the multiple impactors after they struck at an angle. That is, if they hit on water and not on land. If they hit just on land, this could have been what caused the entire Gulf to form in the first place. And since none of us were there, and the geologic record is somewhat incomplete, nobody can say 100% with certainty how it formed.

But please, by all means, don't let that stop any of you from arguing alternate theories. Like the Anunnaki made the Gulf millions of years ago while mining for gold to take back to their home world for their atmosphere because they managed to master space travel but not how to make lead bars into gold bars like the middle age alchemists did.

No, it blew out a hole 180 kilometers wide or 200 depending on which article you read. If it were to cause an impact crater the size of Gulf of Mexico, that wouldn't just wipe out most life on the planet, it would wipe it all out. Also from your artice "even caused parts of the continent to slip into the ocean" so that and 65 million years of tectonic plate movement is why it's now underwater.

 

[Hugo Drax]

When things happen is too difficult to predict. And when bad things happen, it can happen quickly even though there were no easy signs to predict it.

1926 Germany and 1944 Germany were two totally different experiences in the span of 18 years.

 

[Svnla]

What is your point?

Just the facts, ma'am <Joe Friday from Dragnet>. See post #2.

 

[sm625]

There is nothing left to wake up. Most people are sleeping zombies and will be until the day they die. They think how they are programmed to think. They serve who they are programmed to serve. They never have an original thought. They just regurgitate pieces of the corporate media that they have partially digested. This is the majority of people, completely and totally under the control of the richest 0.01%. They will do whatever they are told, they will tolerate anything. They have no shame, no dignity, no honor. They will completely destroy this country, and wrap that destruction in the name of freedom and countless other orwellian terms. And they will never even understand what an orwellian term is and how it is used. They will never know anything, which is why I use the term zombie. Until this "beam" that is controlling these people gets shut off, there is absolutely no hope of reversing any of this. But the beam I'm talking about isnt as simple as that word implies. You have to have an independent, multifaceted, diverse education to even understand the system that is controlling people; to even understand that there is a system in place.

There is nothing in popular culture that even touches upon this system and how elaborate it is. The closest I've seen is the bliss from the remade television show V. But who the heck watched that? It never really took off. It's not nearly enough to reach 100th monkey status.

 

[WelshBloke]

There is nothing left to wake up. Most people are sleeping zombies and will be until the day they die. They think how they are programmed to think. They serve who they are programmed to serve. They never have an original thought. They just regurgitate pieces of the corporate media that they have partially digested. This is the majority of people, completely and totally under the control of the richest 0.01%. They will do whatever they are told, they will tolerate anything. They have no shame, no dignity, no honor. They will completely destroy this country, and wrap that destruction in the name of freedom and countless other orwellian terms. And they will never even understand what an orwellian term is and how it is used. They will never know anything, which is why I use the term zombie. Until this "beam" that is controlling these people gets shut off, there is absolutely no hope of reversing any of this. But the beam I'm talking about isnt as simple as that word implies. You have to have an independent, multifaceted, diverse education to even understand the system that is controlling people; to even understand that there is a system in place.

There is nothing in popular culture that even touches upon this system and how elaborate it is. The closest I've seen is the bliss from the remade television show V. But who the heck watched that? It never really took off. It's not nearly enough to reach 100th monkey status.

So out of interest what are you doing in your life that makes it superior to the "sheep"?

 

[Matt1970]

There is nothing left to wake up. Most people are sleeping zombies and will be until the day they die. They think how they are programmed to think. They serve who they are programmed to serve. They never have an original thought. They just regurgitate pieces of the corporate media that they have partially digested. This is the majority of people, completely and totally under the control of the richest 0.01%. They will do whatever they are told, they will tolerate anything. They have no shame, no dignity, no honor. They will completely destroy this country, and wrap that destruction in the name of freedom and countless other orwellian terms. And they will never even understand what an orwellian term is and how it is used. They will never know anything, which is why I use the term zombie. Until this "beam" that is controlling these people gets shut off, there is absolutely no hope of reversing any of this. But the beam I'm talking about isnt as simple as that word implies. You have to have an independent, multifaceted, diverse education to even understand the system that is controlling people; to even understand that there is a system in place.

There is nothing in popular culture that even touches upon this system and how elaborate it is. The closest I've seen is the bliss from the remade television show V. But who the heck watched that? It never really took off. It's not nearly enough to reach 100th monkey status.

Ya, the richest 0.01% came through my neighborhood yesterday trying to control everyone but luckily I was at the store.

 

[SlickSnake]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/11/15/334769/stopandfrisk-corruption-at-nypd/

Polanco proceeds to explain that police are forced to understate actual, reported crimes to ensure the city's crime statistics improve. Proponents of stop-and-frisk can then point to the manipulated crime statistics to support the claim that the stop-and-frisk policy is reducing crime.

And this skewed crime reporting is apparently happening in the largest police department in the country as part of departmental policy.

Of course, all you habitual serial doubters who perpetually claim that anything you don't believe must be a "conspiracy theory" can never be convinced otherwise, even when hearing it from the man himself.

 

[gingermeggs]

Or, How long before the "Shit Finally Hits the Fan?"

I think you know what I mean based on the sudden rise of the many current violent crime news reports that are being deliberately under reported and mischaracterized and misconstrued by the M.S.M. when they do report on them.

Interesting too, the sudden rise in the number of violent juveniles doing many of the vicious, cold blooded and cowardly attacks, too.

Feel free to elaborate further your opinions beyond just answering the poll dates.

(update)
By the way, "When The Shit Hits The Fan" can be describing here ANY complete breakdown in society, not just a violent crime wave. It could mean a solar flare wiping out the electrical grid, it could be a giant asteroid hitting the Earth and causing a giant calamity and nearly wiping out humanity, it could be a super volcano erupting and completely covering a continent in ash, or even a global famine if crops failed due to some weather catastrophe, or it could be as simple as an economic meltdown triggering another great depression, a political uprising, infectious diseases or even a war of some sort. Those are just a few examples.

That's why I wanted to know your comments after voting in the poll. I have a few ideas myself, and think it's going to be several things happening in quick succession. But I don't want to overly influence the answers at this point. Later on after more participation I will give you my opinions here.

Thanks again for participating!

you forgot the most probable; A nuke goes off
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/12/opinion/12carter.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

[WhipperSnapper]

By the way, "When The Shit Hits The Fan" can be describing here ANY complete breakdown in society, not just a violent crime wave.

When you title a thread, "How Long Before the Sheeple Finally Wake Up?", it has political undertones. My interpretation of the question was:

"How long before the sheeple finally wake up and stage a revolution?" (That could be either a political revolution or an actual violent uprising.)

I said Never. By that I basically mean, not in my lifetime nor the lifetimes of anyone currently born.

I think that Americans have slowly become habituated to a decreasing standard of living. That combined with a widespread belief in meritocracy or a "Just Outcome Hypothesis" that encourages people to blame themselves for their economic plights will keep the sheeple from becoming upset enough to stage a revolution. Also, an increasing percentage of our population is foreign born, which means that more and more Americans have come from nations where poverty is the normal state of affairs and are thus already habituated to it. So a smaller and smaller percentage of Americans remember growing comfortably middle class.

For those reasons, I don't think Americans will stage another revolution even if the top 5% ends up owning almost all the wealth while the bottom 95% essentially labors as slaves for them. However, we might an increase in crime directed against the top 5% such as kidnappings where people are held for ransom (ala Central and South America).

 

[Doppel]

When you title thread, "How Long Before the Sheeple Finally Wake Up", it has political undertones. My interpretation of the question was:

"How long before the sheeple finally wake up and stage a revolution?" (That could be either a political revolution or an actual violent uprising.)

I said Never. By that I basically mean, not in my lifetime nor the lifetimes of anyone currently born.

I think that Americans have slowly become habituated to a decreasing standard of living. That combined with a widespread belief in meritocracy or a "Just Outcome Hypothesis" that encourages people to blame themselves for their economic plights will keep the sheeple from becoming upset enough to stage a revolution. Also, an increasing percentage of our population is foreign born, which means that more and more Americans have come from nations where poverty is the normal state of affairs and are thus already habituated to it. So a smaller and smaller percentage of Americans remember growing comfortably middle class.

For those reasons, I don't think Americans will stage another revolution even if the top 5% ends up owning almost all the wealth while the bottom 95% essentially labors as slaves for them. However, we might an increase in crime directed against the top 5% such as kidnappings where people are held for ransom (ala Central and South America).

I agree with most of this.

I go back to the red and blue pill in the Matrix, because I think it is a good metaphor for current life. It seems it's in my nature to not be willfully ignorant of current events (if I am, it's generally not willful), but sometimes I wish I were. I think many of us talk about things on P&N because it's the only time we can get anybody to even give two shits about it. Politically speaking we know we have no power and cannot do anything.

When I step back, though, I realize that I (and most people in the country) live in a time of incredible wealth. There are major inequalities and they are accelerating, but even those with a bad lot in life still have food, heat, roof, even some money for minimal leisure (via internet + screen).

This country is very far from revolution.

 

[SlickSnake]

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20131118_30.html

The start of the work is the first step in an unprecedented decommissioning process that is expected to take 40 years.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/handouts/2013/images/handouts_131118_03-e.pdf

http://www.flickr.com/photos/simplyinfo/sets/72157637484080604/

http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=11770

So, as long as there are no other accidents, earthquakes, aftershocks, tsunamis, typhoons, tornadoes, volcanoes, asteroids, gigantic solar flare EMPs that knock out the power globally or Godzilla, Japan might succeed even without the Power Rangers help.

 

[SlickSnake]

http://enenews.com/theyre-rushing-s...l-type-seismic-event-wsj-top-official-concern

Tepco is speeding up the spent fuel pool removal process without public explanation. There are no operational nuclear power plants in Japan now. There were 50. This should tell us all something about the "safety" of nuclear power plants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Japan

The government there must have looked again at all the earthquake, volcano, typhoon and tsunami risk assessments that they should have paid attention to when they built the things over known fault lines and in known typhoon and tsunami zones just to BOIL WATER to make a little power. Wouldn't it have been a lot smarter (and cheaper) just to harness the islands volcanism to boil water for a little cheap power?

Nuke power is certainly not "green" power when it will take many times more dirty power than the small amounts of "green" power ever generated by them just to clean up the radioactive mess these reactors leave behind even when "safely" decommissioned without the reactors exploding.

Meanwhile, all they are really doing so far is moving all these rod assemblies about 100 meters away into yet another storage pool nearby, until they can figure out what do with them all for the next million years or so.

 

[SlickSnake]

This is an interesting read that I saw a couple of months ago and attempts to significantly downplay the entire accident. Since I'm no expert in this field, and only a very few well paid atomic scientists actually are, I can't help but wonder at the possible ulterior motives of nuclear scientists who depend on their livelihoods using university, corporate and government funding into researching and promoting atomic energy in spite of all the potential risks and accidents associated with it.

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...w_information_about_worst_case_scenarios.html