Discussion How long before a Federal judge strikes down the just signed Florida congressional map?

[ivwshane]

It's not in the Constitution. Sorry I confused you with more in formation than that.

Lol no he’s saying brycejones was being sarcastic.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's not in the Constitution. Sorry I confused you with more in formation than that.

Wow, sorry, it took a couple minutes. Then I reread the post I was responding to. Is it 4:20 yet.

 

[esquared]

I almost missed that. I was like wow, that’s quite the miss for brycejones.

Pretty sure he just forgot to put in the /s

 

[hal2kilo]

Lol no he’s saying brycejones was being sarcastic.

I already smacked my forehead a few times.

 

[sandorski]

Wow, sorry, it took a couple minutes. Then I reread the post I was responding to. Is it 4:20 yet.

Brah, it's been 4:20 for 3 days already.

 

[pcgeek11]

Democrats tried to do it because the courts said it was okay when Republicans do it. Rules only apply to Democrats once again. Your takeaway is biased as usual.

Right. I'm biased and you're not....

Nowhere did I say that it was OK for the Republicans to do it.

 

[pcgeek11]

But should it be done? I say no, regardless of party.

And I agree.

 

[tweaker2]

It does seem to me that if neutral maps were drawn up nationwide, the Democrats would end up being the winners in most states.

Just a hunch seeing as if the Repubs have more so relied on gerrymandering and other such disingenuous ploys to win elections.

 

[dank69]

Right. I'm biased and you're not....

Nowhere did I say that it was OK for the Republicans to do it.

Sure, but Republicans are doing it and the courts are approving it, while simultaneously rejecting Democrats when they do it. You don't see a problem with that?

 

[brycejones]

Nowhere did I say that it was OK for the Republicans to do it.

You didn’t exactly lead with that opinion…….

 

[UNCjigga]

Ooh I know!! I know!!!!

20 DAYS!!!!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1524429027704025088

Icing--a DeSantis-appointed conservative Judge is the one who struck them down. Suck on that DeSantis!!!

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

But, but, but that's NOT what I put you on the bench to do!!!!!!!

 

[herm0016]

I would support going back to the original counting on the house. more districts means that more people are directly represented and will have more sway over the person and their positions. is there any group advocating for that change right now?

 

[ivwshane]

I would support going back to the original counting on the house. more districts means that more people are directly represented and will have more sway over the person and their positions. is there any group advocating for that change right now?

At the federal level? If yes, then I’ve been advocating that for a while now as have others on this board. The people clearly aren’t being represented right now.

 

[herm0016]

At the federal level? If yes, then I’ve been advocating that for a while now as have others on this board. The people clearly aren’t being represented right now.

what ! have heard a lot here is making the senate proportional and getting rid of the EC, and I will never support that.
a larger house would be more as the system was meant to be though.

 

[brycejones]

what ! have heard a lot here is making the senate proportional and getting rid of the EC, and I will never support that.
a larger house would be more as the system was meant to be though.

Why do you oppose changes to the Senate and the EC?

 

[ivwshane]

what ! have heard a lot here is making the senate proportional and getting rid of the EC, and I will never support that.
a larger house would be more as the system was meant to be though.

I support expanding the house, not the senate. The senate was designed to slow things down. I do however think the filibuster should ended.

I was originally for keeping the EC only because it was supposed to be a backstop to electing someone egregious like trump who is antithetical to democracy and who puts himself before the country. However when that didn’t happen and he didn’t win the popular vote as well, it pretty much ended any reason to keep it. So now I say get rid of it as the people who vote are just one more thing that can be compromised. I’ll take my chances with 140 million voters vs 538 people appointed by political parties.

 

[JTsyo]

There's no way the Republicans will go for removing the EC. It would result in them not wining the Presidency again. Since it would take an amendment to remove the EC, it's not going to pass without their support. The work around though is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, though I can see that being challenged and stuck down by the current SC.

 

[dawp]

There's no way the Republicans will go for removing the EC. It would result in them not wining the Presidency again. Since it would take an amendment to remove the EC, it's not going to pass without their support. The work around though is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, though I can see that being challenged and stuck down by the current SC.

Maine and Nebraska already have proportional EC delegates, need more

Which States Split Their Electoral Votes? - Electoral Vote Map

Which states split their electoral votes? Most states allocate electoral votes on a winner-take-all basis, but Maine and Nebraska are different.

electoralvotemap.com

 

[herm0016]

Maine and Nebraska already have proportional EC delegates, need more

Which States Split Their Electoral Votes? - Electoral Vote Map

Which states split their electoral votes? Most states allocate electoral votes on a winner-take-all basis, but Maine and Nebraska are different.

electoralvotemap.com

democrats would rather not have this, it opens it up too much to 3rd parties. neither R or D want more than the 2 parties to ever be viable. its a big problem in our system. things like the pres. debate commission for instance. if any other party gets even close, they move the goal posts.

I am for proportional Ec delegates and ranked choice voting.

 

[ivwshane]

democrats would rather not have this, it opens it up too much to 3rd parties. neither R or D want more than the 2 parties to ever be viable. its a big problem in our system. things like the pres. debate commission for instance. if any other party gets even close, they move the goal posts.

I am for proportional Ec delegates and ranked choice voting.

I disagree and Bernie sanders says hi.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I disagree and Bernie sanders says hi.

Silly example, given that Sanders was a one-off independent that had to switch D to be taken seriously.

Ranked choice is the answer.

 

[hal2kilo]

I would support going back to the original counting on the house. more districts means that more people are directly represented and will have more sway over the person and their positions. is there any group advocating for that change right now?

One of many.
Enlarge the House of Representatives | American Academy of Arts and Sciences (amacad.org)

 

[ivwshane]

Silly example, given that Sanders was a one-off independent that had to switch D to be taken seriously.

Ranked choice is the answer.

I do agree with ranked choice and I’m pretty sure some democratic states are already doing that so again, I disagree that democrats only want two parties.

 

[JTsyo]

Maine and Nebraska already have proportional EC delegates, need more

Which States Split Their Electoral Votes? - Electoral Vote Map

Which states split their electoral votes? Most states allocate electoral votes on a winner-take-all basis, but Maine and Nebraska are different.

electoralvotemap.com

This only works if all 50 states do it. Can't have California split its EC votes 60/40 while Texas sends all Rs.