I've got nothing against Sanyo - they make good phones, and i've owned one before. It's just that i see absolutely no point in spending more than $100 on a phone right now. Internet on cell phones is a joke - if i want a mobile/portable internet device, i'll buy a PDA. The digital camera is useless as well - however impressive of a feature for a slim cellphone, no one who is even remotely serious about taking pictures would ever use that thing. The only feature i can think of that would make me consider paying so much for a cell is if i could use it to send/receive live video - now that would really be useful. But until then, meh. The Kyocera phone is more like it - Palm 4 is pretty impressive, and the MP3 player can be pretty useful as well, depending on the person. Still doesn't cut it for me though, i only listen to music at home or in the car, and both have audio systems far superior to a tiny mp3 player and a set of in-ear headphones.