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How I'd fix the economy.

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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Kyle
and where does the money come from? Plunging the country further in debt is not really a solution...

The government can just print all the money needed. Why should we go under debt when we have perfectly good printing presses?

And what about people like myself who have lived responsibly and saved? What do I get besides more inflation??

Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things. Helping those that caused this mess will help things.

Inflation won't take place. In fact, competition will increase because of all the people looking to spend a little bit again, lowering prices across the board.

That's all the responsible people get? A "good job", and then everybody who fucked up gets bailed out, while they get shit? What a retarded plan.

Your saving and responsibility won't mean jack when you are walking around with thousands of dollars in a wheelbarrow because the government didn't help people when they needed to be helped...
 
Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome
I like this plan. With that $5000 rebate I will finally be able to afford that brand new Corvette I have been wanting.

There you go. That will ensure that an American worker gets to stay on the line building that fine automobile. You get what you want, and an American gets to put dinner on her table tonight. 🙂
 
Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things

Responsible people are the only ones keeping this country afloat...and were getting tired of the rest of you chumps fvcking everything up.
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Kyle
and where does the money come from? Plunging the country further in debt is not really a solution...

The government can just print all the money needed. Why should we go under debt when we have perfectly good printing presses?

And what about people like myself who have lived responsibly and saved? What do I get besides more inflation??

Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things. Helping those that caused this mess will help things.

Inflation won't take place. In fact, competition will increase because of all the people looking to spend a little bit again, lowering prices across the board.

/facepalm

Remember those rebate checks the gov't sent out? Yeah - people just paid their bills with that, instead of "stimulating the economy."



 
Originally posted by: rbV5
Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things

Responsible people are the only ones keeping this country afloat...and were getting tired of the rest of you chumps fvcking everything up.

EXACTLY! Think about it. The chumps will NO LONGER BE IN CHUMP POSITION after my plan. No chumps = no fvcking everything up.
 
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Kyle
and where does the money come from? Plunging the country further in debt is not really a solution...

The government can just print all the money needed. Why should we go under debt when we have perfectly good printing presses?

And what about people like myself who have lived responsibly and saved? What do I get besides more inflation??

Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things. Helping those that caused this mess will help things.

Inflation won't take place. In fact, competition will increase because of all the people looking to spend a little bit again, lowering prices across the board.

/facepalm

Remember those rebate checks the gov't sent out? Yeah - people just paid their bills with that, instead of "stimulating the economy."

Um, paying bills is still stimulating the economy...
 
Originally posted by: rbV5
Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things

Responsible people are the only ones keeping this country afloat...and were getting tired of the rest of you chumps fvcking everything up.

the responsible people are going to have to pass laws to (attempt and fail to) keep the irresponsible people from fvcking up again. unfortunately, it's going to scrape in some responsible people as well.





edit: so does the car just have to be assembled in the US? what if it's assembled in the US with a large proportion of foreign parts? what if it's assembled in the US with US parts but engineered and overseen from foreign lands? and what if most of the profit margin goes to foreign lands?
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: rbV5
Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things

Responsible people are the only ones keeping this country afloat...and were getting tired of the rest of you chumps fvcking everything up.

EXACTLY! Think about it. The chumps will NO LONGER BE IN CHUMP POSITION after my plan. No chumps = no fvcking everything up.

a) Some of them won't be bailed out by that amount.

b) They'll fuck up again.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: rbV5
Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things

Responsible people are the only ones keeping this country afloat...and were getting tired of the rest of you chumps fvcking everything up.

the responsible people are going to have to pass laws to (attempt and fail to) keep the irresponsible people from fvcking up again. unfortunately, it's going to scrape in some responsible people as well.





edit: so does the car just have to be assembled in the US? what if it's assembled in the US with a large proportion of foreign parts? what if it's assembled in the US with US parts but engineered and overseen from foreign lands? and what if most of the profit margin goes to foreign lands?

It would be good for vehicles with the MAJORITY (51%) of parts made in the USA. It's more about keeping the American worker moving than American profit.
 
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: rbV5
Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things

Responsible people are the only ones keeping this country afloat...and were getting tired of the rest of you chumps fvcking everything up.

EXACTLY! Think about it. The chumps will NO LONGER BE IN CHUMP POSITION after my plan. No chumps = no fvcking everything up.

a) Some of them won't be bailed out by that amount.

b) They'll fuck up again.

a) See #5.
b) This time, there will be no more bailout. You have to put faith in the banks to not be stupid a 2nd time around. Laws would also be in place to prevent these things again.
 
Originally posted by: Kyle
and where does the money come from? Plunging the country further in debt is not really a solution...

They've already spent that money. If they'd used the nearly 8 trillion they've spent already for the OP's ideas, there'd be no problem.
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Kyle
and where does the money come from? Plunging the country further in debt is not really a solution...

The government can just print all the money needed. Why should we go under debt when we have perfectly good printing presses?

Zimbabwe did that too and look where it got them.

No, Zimbabwe got that way because they have no real economy, 3rd world living conditions, no infrastructure and a bunch of douchebags running wild raping and pillaging.

The USA would NEVER turn into a Zimbabwe no matter how hard they tried.

Zimbabwe before all their economic problems, used to be the second most successful country in Africa and the 6th largest food exporter in the world.

Then their dictator was an idiot and made "reforms" and eventualy start printing more and more money.
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: rbV5
Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things

Responsible people are the only ones keeping this country afloat...and were getting tired of the rest of you chumps fvcking everything up.

the responsible people are going to have to pass laws to (attempt and fail to) keep the irresponsible people from fvcking up again. unfortunately, it's going to scrape in some responsible people as well.





edit: so does the car just have to be assembled in the US? what if it's assembled in the US with a large proportion of foreign parts? what if it's assembled in the US with US parts but engineered and overseen from foreign lands? and what if most of the profit margin goes to foreign lands?

It would be good for vehicles with the MAJORITY (51%) of parts made in the USA. It's more about keeping the American worker moving than American profit.


Well a lot of the domestic cars wouldnt be eligible and a lot of the foriegn cars would.


 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Kyle
and where does the money come from? Plunging the country further in debt is not really a solution...

The government can just print all the money needed. Why should we go under debt when we have perfectly good printing presses?

To hell with that... Printing all the money would result in hyper inflation, making MY money that I worked HARD for worth a lot less. None of your stimulus points would help me at all.

1) I don't have credit card debt because I live within my means. I do have student loan debt and car loan debt. Want to pick up $10K off one of those?

2) All this will do is flood the market with homes for sale. All you are doing is helping people get back to zero on a place they can't afford and they probably over paid for to begin with. They are going to be in the same position 3 months from now.

I think if the government is going to do anything, they should back the renegotiation of loan terms with the provision that they share in the profits of selling the homes down the line.

3) Raising everyone's credit rating by 100 points just artificially inflates the scale but doesn't add any additional meaning to the number. Your credit score provides a means of comparing people based on history. Just giving people another 100 points doesn't actually mean they are worthy of better credit. It won't change their habits.

4) I'm not completely against this idea, but the only people that will benefit from this are people who need new cars now. I have an 07 and so wouldn't be able to benefit from this program.

5) This one is just absurd.

R
 
i'd rather watch obama produce what he spoke about during his campaign. thats enough entertainment for me for the next 4 years.

Obama is a known socialist. You will see his tendencies come out as his term goes on.
 
Originally posted by: Kyle
and where does the money come from? Plunging the country further in debt is not really a solution...

They just have to declare their debt as being gone and reset it to 0. They're the goverment, they can do what they want. 😉

The big issue would be inflation though.

Here's what I'd do.

Tax everything that comes from China so it's more expensive, give a really good sum of money to local industries to start manufacturing more stuff. Cars, electronics, clothes, you name it.

This would open lot of jobs in the process.

In the long run it means more job security and money staying in the country.

The taxed stuff from China would give money to the goverment, the next step is to find a smart way to spend it (probably make it go towards the building of more local industry)

I'm no expert so I have no idea if it would even work, but it sounds like it could. The danger I see here is making it harder for people to buy stuff as everything would go up, but if done in stages it could maybe work.
 
or they should just take the $1 trillion they plan to pump into the economy and give each American his share of that.

That would spark spending. I know I'd go out and buy a car/house/my own business.
 
Originally posted by: rgwalt
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Kyle
and where does the money come from? Plunging the country further in debt is not really a solution...

The government can just print all the money needed. Why should we go under debt when we have perfectly good printing presses?

To hell with that... Printing all the money would result in hyper inflation, making MY money that I worked HARD for worth a lot less. None of your stimulus points would help me at all.

1) I don't have credit card debt because I live within my means. I do have student loan debt and car loan debt. Want to pick up $10K off one of those?

2) All this will do is flood the market with homes for sale. All you are doing is helping people get back to zero on a place they can't afford and they probably over paid for to begin with. They are going to be in the same position 3 months from now.

I think if the government is going to do anything, they should back the renegotiation of loan terms with the provision that they share in the profits of selling the homes down the line.

3) Raising everyone's credit rating by 100 points just artificially inflates the scale but doesn't add any additional meaning to the number. Your credit score provides a means of comparing people based on history. Just giving people another 100 points doesn't actually mean they are worthy of better credit. It won't change their habits.

4) I'm not completely against this idea, but the only people that will benefit from this are people who need new cars now. I have an 07 and so wouldn't be able to benefit from this program.

5) This one is just absurd.

R

1) Education should be free. I'd have the government eat all school debts.

2) Renegotiation would be fine. Under my plan, their credit rating would be 100 points higher, allowing them to pay less interest.

3) The new credit rating would allow them to take on loans with less interest. Trust me, banks and auto dealers would be salivating at their scores.

4) I guess a provision could be added to use the $5000 for repairs also. This would keep the mechanics working also.

5) Yeah.
 
Originally posted by: UDT89
or they should just take the $1 trillion they plan to pump into the economy and give each American his share of that.

That would spark spending. I know I'd go out and buy a car/house/my own business.

You'd buy a car or house or start your own business with about $3,000?

Are people still responding to this dolt seriously? I see about 10 of these people every week that think they have some master plan about saving the economy when they can't even tell you what the fuck the business cycle is.
 
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Kyle
and where does the money come from? Plunging the country further in debt is not really a solution...

The government can just print all the money needed. Why should we go under debt when we have perfectly good printing presses?

And what about people like myself who have lived responsibly and saved? What do I get besides more inflation??

Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things. Helping those that caused this mess will help things.

Inflation won't take place. In fact, competition will increase because of all the people looking to spend a little bit again, lowering prices across the board.

That's all the responsible people get? A "good job", and then everybody who fucked up gets bailed out, while they get shit? What a retarded plan.

That's how its worked in this country for the last 60 or 70 years. That is what the majority of voters expect now-a-days. If they fuck up, spend every last cent they earn and then some, the government will bail them out. Then they tax the shit out of everyone, including those that live within their means.

amdhunter- Ideas and policies like yours just encourage irresponsibility. What incentive do I have not to run myself eyeballs deep in debt if the government is going to come save me?!?

If this is how its going to be, I need to go buy some gold bars.

R
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: rbV5
Good job on being responsible. Unfortunately, you being responsible doesn't help things

Responsible people are the only ones keeping this country afloat...and were getting tired of the rest of you chumps fvcking everything up.

EXACTLY! Think about it. The chumps will NO LONGER BE IN CHUMP POSITION after my plan. No chumps = no fvcking everything up.

You can't stop people from being chumps by erasing debt, getting them out of a bad deal on their home, or giving them $5K for a new car. If you bail someone out of $10K in credit card debt, chances are they are going to run themselves into debt on that card again, almost immediately. What incentive have you given them not to? If a kid colors on the walls and you don't do anything to stop them, they are going to do it again and again.

 
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