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This benchmark simulates user actions for adding, completing, and removing to-do items using multiple examples in TodoMVC. Each example in TodoMVC implements the same todo application using DOM APIs in different ways. Some call DOM APIs directly from ECMAScript 5 (ES5), ECMASCript 2015 (ES6), ES6 transpiled to ES5, and Elm transpiled to ES5. Others use one of eleven popular JavaScript frameworks: React, React with Redux, Ember.js, Backbone.js, AngularJS, (new) Angular, Vue.js, jQuery, Preact, Inferno, and Flight. Many of these frameworks are used on the most popular websites in the world, such as Facebook and Twitter. The performance of these types of operations depends on the speed of the DOM APIs, the JavaScript engine, CSS style resolution, layout, and other technologies.
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Core M-5Y10c @ 52.02

Images aren't necessary, but please state your cpu speed. The web browser of your choice. Mine is Edge 83. Thank you.

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System: 5600X, PBO +200, minor CO offsets 0 (best core) to -10 (worst 4 cores), 3666 CL 16 RAM, 2.5" SATA SSD, Radeon 5700 at stock
All run in private mode (no extensions)

Chrome: 182.4
Edge: 179.9
Firefox: 157.0
Brave: 155.8

Looking @Det0x -- it's gotta be my FCLK and RAM timings holding me back, no way this has anything to do with you having a 5950X and me having a 5600X

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amrnuke said:
System: 5600X, PBO +200, minor CO offsets 0 (best core) to -10 (worst 4 cores), 3666 CL 16 RAM, 2.5" SATA SSD, Radeon 5700 at stock
All run in private mode (no extensions)

Chrome: 182.4
Edge: 179.9
Firefox: 157.0
Brave: 155.8

Looking @Det0x -- it's gotta be my FCLK and RAM timings holding me back, no way this has anything to do with you having a 5950X and me having a 5600X
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What do you get in other singlethread benchmarks ?
over 700 in cpu-z bench?
 
Det0x said:
What do you get in other singlethread benchmarks ?
over 700 in cpu-z bench?
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mid-660s (662-666 range)
CB23 ST 1609
CB20 ST 623
GB5 ST 1676

After looking into it, my browser performs much better on the first new-instance run. Subsequent repeated runs without closing and restarting the browser are slower. On the first new-instance run, there are noticeable hitches at test 14 and 17, but the rest goes quickly. On subsequent runs, everything goes very smoothly but scores are lower. I am not sure if that hitch is allowing the CPU to cool down, though in that segment of the test it's primarily very lightly threaded.
 
Nothingness said:
220 +/- 8.9 Safari 14.0.2 on Apple MBP with M1 @ 3.2 GHz
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This is a bafflingly high score. There is no doubt that vertical integration of hardware and software has great potential to create massive performance gains for end-users.
What does the M1 do with native Chrome or Firefox for you?
 
amrnuke said:
This is a bafflingly high score. There is no doubt that vertical integration of hardware and software has great potential to create massive performance gains for end-users.
What does the M1 do with native Chrome or Firefox for you?
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Not surprising after my iphone score.I think they both use safari to render anyways.
 
Midwayman said:
right, iOS. Though with the move to arm who knows?
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No, I mean Chrome on Big Sur on Arm does use Blink, unless something changed since the native app was released in November.

Anyway, what I was saying is, I'm curious if M1-native Chrome / Firefox are as fast as Safari.
 
sallymander said:
I got a score of 210 +- 1.4 on my M1 Mac Mini

Chrome Version 87.0.4280.141 (Official Build) (arm64)
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Sounds to be measurably off Safari results, right?

Edit: Just perused Arstechnica's article on the native Chrome app, it is indeed 5-10% off Safari's scores.

Kind of odd now that there are no mainstream WebKit / JSCore-based browsers for Windows.
 
amrnuke said:
Kind of odd now that there are no mainstream WebKit / JSCore-based browsers for Windows.
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Google decided to fork it to create Blink since they had different ideas regarding sandboxing. They are open source, so if anybody wants to create a browser based on Safari's rendering and JavaScript engine that's still possible.
 
moinmoin said:
Google decided to fork it to create Blink since they had different ideas regarding sandboxing. They are open source, so if anybody wants to create a browser based on Safari's rendering and JavaScript engine that's still possible.
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Would be interesting to see if the speed advantage over Blink/V8 on macOS would translate to Windows.
 
amrnuke said:
Would be interesting to see if the speed advantage over Blink/V8 on macOS would translate to Windows.
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It should. However WebKit/JSCore is only the innermost part of a browser, everything else (transmission and caching of data, handling of cookies and permissions etc. pp.) would need to be implemented first. Which is why essentially all the derivative browsers build upon Chromium instead which is a complete cross-platform browser available as open source. (Also, I'm not sure if that changed since, but one of the original causes of Google forking WebKit was Apple constantly unilaterally introducing MacOS/iOS-isms into the code that first needed to be ported to work on other platforms.)
 
moinmoin said:
It should. However WebKit/JSCore is only the innermost part of a browser, everything else (transmission and caching of data, handling of cookies and permissions etc. pp.) would need to be implemented first. Which is why essentially all the derivative browsers build upon Chromium instead which is a complete cross-platform browser available as open source. (Also, I'm not sure if that changed since, but one of the original causes of Google forking WebKit was Apple constantly unilaterally introducing MacOS/iOS-isms into the code that first needed to be ported to work on other platforms.)
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Very true, though it appears the Blink/V8 based browsers I've tested (Chrome, Edge, Brave) all achieve statistically similar scores when extensions are off. Firefox is a laggard on pretty much every system I've tested.
 
i5-1135G7 4.2GHz Turbo 2.4 GHz base

With Edge(chromium) latest:

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With Firefox Developer latest:

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Huge disparity.
 
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amrnuke said:
Very true, though it appears the Blink/V8 based browsers I've tested (Chrome, Edge, Brave) all achieve statistically similar scores when extensions are off.
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Well yes, they are all Chromium based so the deviation should be small.

To get on topic again, let me check my browsers on my lowly N3700 Linux netbook...
Opera 73.0.3856: 12.2 ± 0.77
Chromium 87.0.4280: 13.8 ± 0.61
Firefox 84.0.2: 10.9 ± 0.62
Konqueror 20.08.3: 13.7 ± 0.88
Epiphany 3.38.2: 12.2 ± 1.0
 
moinmoin said:
Well yes, they are all Chromium based so the deviation should be small.
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I guess I was expecting some Microsoft "special sauce" to help Edge out more.

moinmoin said:
To get on topic again, let me check my browsers on my lowly N3700 Linux netbook...
Opera 73.0.3856: 12.2 ± 0.77
Chromium 87.0.4280: 13.8 ± 0.61
Firefox 84.0.2: 10.9 ± 0.62
Konqueror 20.08.3: 13.7 ± 0.88
Epiphany 3.38.2: 12.2 ± 1.0
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😳
Did you forget to turn it on?
 
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