How does this make ANY sense? (GPU prices, even lower-end)

Page 6 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

krumme

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 2009
5,952
1,585
136
I am gone.
Tired of this crap and got a new hobby.
Why give 3000usd for a highend gpu when you can get a highend MTB fork for 1000 usd. Cost a third and last 3 times as long.

Mining and and lack of compettition ruined this hobby for now. I will not finance shareholders short term greed and some entries into datacenter with crazy margins on gaming gpu.
Comming back when value comes back. Perhaps some expensive midrange volta for 700 usd to carry me over on low/medium 4k. But no 144hz 4k. Dead. How to kill pc gaming and your cash cow in no time.
 

jpiniero

Lifer
Oct 1, 2010
14,509
5,159
136
I wonder if there are still shortages (demand>supply) or are the greedy resellers refusing to lower price and build up stock for a possible next high in mining.

As evidenced by the Celeron G3930 being #6 on Amazon's best sellers list, there is still quite decent demand for mining.

AMD made it sound like they are selling a lot of GPU chips directly to miners, so maybe that's where the Vega supply is going.
 

Headfoot

Diamond Member
Feb 28, 2008
4,444
641
126
I am gone.
Tired of this crap and got a new hobby.
Why give 3000usd for a highend gpu when you can get a highend MTB fork for 1000 usd. Cost a third and last 3 times as long.

Mining and and lack of compettition ruined this hobby for now. I will not finance shareholders short term greed and some entries into datacenter with crazy margins on gaming gpu.
Comming back when value comes back. Perhaps some expensive midrange volta for 700 usd to carry me over on low/medium 4k. But no 144hz 4k. Dead. How to kill pc gaming and your cash cow in no time.
It what world is a Titan V necessary for gaming? 1080 Ti OC is a stones throw from its performance and way less buggy and not $3000.....
 
  • Like
Reactions: DooKey

DidelisDiskas

Senior member
Dec 27, 2015
233
21
81
It's impressive how the gpu prices have been inflated for close to a year now. I should have bought that sapphire rx 480 when it was available for 230 euro about a century ago. I'm stuck with my RX 560 which is a pretty good deal for the 90 euros i paid for it, but not enough for my modest gaming needs at 4k. There is no way i will give away 100 euros over the msrp 2 years later, i'd rather just quit gaming all together.
 

Mopetar

Diamond Member
Jan 31, 2011
7,797
5,899
136
Prices at MSRP for Nvidia cards at their store and stocks available as of today.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-store/

I don't know if the availability was better when you posted this the other day, but only the 1070 Ti is available when I checked just now.

So prices are going back to MSRP then?

Not really. I could claim I'm selling cards at 70% of MSRP, but if I'm always and completely out of stock, are prices really below MSRP?
 

whm1974

Diamond Member
Jul 24, 2016
9,460
1,570
96
I don't know if the availability was better when you posted this the other day, but only the 1070 Ti is available when I checked just now.



Not really. I could claim I'm selling cards at 70% of MSRP, but if I'm always and completely out of stock, are prices really below MSRP?
Good point.
 

slashy16

Member
Mar 24, 2017
151
59
71
Amazon is the best place to pickup RX580 cards. They seem to randomly sell 580s at MSRP. I have gotten two in the past week at MSRP
 

dlerious

Golden Member
Mar 4, 2004
1,769
717
136
Amazon is the best place to pickup RX580 cards. They seem to randomly sell 580s at MSRP. I have gotten two in the past week at MSRP
2 questions. New or used and amazon or 3rd parties? I haven't seen any under $300 - not that I've been looking real hard.
 

jpiniero

Lifer
Oct 1, 2010
14,509
5,159
136
Amazon is the best place to pickup RX580 cards. They seem to randomly sell 580s at MSRP. I have gotten two in the past week at MSRP

The PowerColor model, right? That was a mistake since it had been out of stock really since the 580's launch. Amazon fixed it.
 

jpiniero

Lifer
Oct 1, 2010
14,509
5,159
136
Amazon did it again, selling an XFX V64 model for $599 yesterday. It had been OOS since November.
 

Harry_Wild

Senior member
Dec 14, 2012
830
150
106
I am glad to report/announce that GPU cards have reach it peak and it is slowly falling in price! Just hang on and the discount prices will come back in time from that of MSRP+!
 

Markfw

Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
May 16, 2002
25,478
14,434
136
I got a EVGA 1080TI FTW3 (elite) for $860. Close enough
 

alcoholbob

Diamond Member
May 24, 2005
6,271
323
126
It what world is a Titan V necessary for gaming? 1080 Ti OC is a stones throw from its performance and way less buggy and not $3000.....

True, but at 4K and with newer titles in DX12/Vulkan with the async improvements it goes as far as 45%+ faster than the 1080Ti in some titles...a little more than a stone's throw.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,511
29,091
146
True, but at 4K and with newer titles in DX12/Vulkan with the async improvements it goes as far as 45%+ faster than the 1080Ti in some titles...a little more than a stone's throw.

agreed, but I think with the ~equivalent gaming performance of a Titan V being available, probably next year as the 1180Ti or whatever, for, perhaps, the ~same price of a 1080Ti now, we would probably be at the point where games and hardware (proper displays) can actually use that power, no?

Though I remain dubious over the prospect of nVidia releasing the next gen cards at the same tiered pricing of the equivalent 10xx series cards. I think 10-20% increased pricing is most likely, especially as AMD is unlikely to have anything remotely competitive with them.


Unrelated: I just noticed that Newegg has a pile of 580s priced in the $310 (4GB Nitro) up to $360 (8GB Pulse) range, which is certainly more reasonable that what has been going on.

Oh, and a RD Vega 56 w/ Farcry 5 for $480 after rebate. What is this, Christmas?
 

Headfoot

Diamond Member
Feb 28, 2008
4,444
641
126
True, but at 4K and with newer titles in DX12/Vulkan with the async improvements it goes as far as 45%+ faster than the 1080Ti in some titles...a little more than a stone's throw.
When it works... and you have to disclaim "in some titles" because in others it shows almost no improvement. Not sure I'm gonna count a chip that costs $2000 more to maybe perform somewhat better
 

alcoholbob

Diamond Member
May 24, 2005
6,271
323
126
When it works... and you have to disclaim "in some titles" because in others it shows almost no improvement. Not sure I'm gonna count a chip that costs $2000 more to maybe perform somewhat better

Well I would say the only times that the Titan V isn't obviously faster than the Titan XP, it's not clear the game is GPU bound at all at the given settings being tested. Any time you are testing at 4K Ultra settings and it's not a MOBA or RTS style game it's pretty consistently ~27% faster than the 1080Ti even while running rather low stock low boost clocks. Once overclocked it's closer to >30% faster than a comparably clocked 1080 Ti, and this is with mostly DX11 titles which are driver bound. With low level APIs it does a lot better.

Sometimes the 1% low fps falls behind the current Pascal, but it's due to immature drivers. At launch the Titan X Pascal had the same frametime issues. Once the gaming cards come out and Volta gaming drivers are out that issue should disappear. Of course I'll grant by then the 1180Ti will be on the horizon.
 

dark zero

Platinum Member
Jun 2, 2015
2,655
138
106
Hilariously I see that in China the prices are not that high compared to the rest of the world... the problem? The warranty... is only good for low tier cards like GT 1030 or RX 550 and on reputable brands like Colorful and Zotac (which are getting more and more expensive) or even Yeston and ASL
 

jpiniero

Lifer
Oct 1, 2010
14,509
5,159
136
Saw there was a Vega 64 after rebate for I think $530 at Newegg (with Far Cry 5). Seems like the craze is over.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ZGR

B-Riz

Golden Member
Feb 15, 2011
1,482
612
136
So eBay now has used RX 580s starting at ~$240, but from mining, and Newegg eBay is selling MSI Air Boost Vega 56 for ~$460. Seems like things are a lot better now. But I am very wary of a used mining GPU... :confused2: