How does the 5-speed Automatic with Manual Shift Mode work on a G35 Coupe?

SithSolo1

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How is it automatic and manual? Looked at the site but it didn't help.

I think I falling in love with this car. :heart:
 

Ryan

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Basically you puch a button or "nudge" the automatic shifter and the transmission will upshift or downshift.
 

slick230

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I believe most of these cars with "auto-stick" or whatever they call it just allow you to remain in a chosen gear longer than the ecu would normally shift at. The ecu still retains ultimate control over shiftpoints and such, but it allow you to wind out gears instead of automatically shifting at setpoints. Basically, it lets you have the illusion of actually driving a manual, and you get to play like you're a real driver, but the ecu still does most of the work for you.

Get a real stick if you want to shift. "Auto-stick" is for pvssies.
 

BCYL

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It's just an automatic transmission that allows you to stay in a specific gear... But it will still block you from downshifting if the resulting rpm will be too high...

These things have been around for ages... nothing new...
 

Cyberian

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Originally posted by: BCYL
It's just an automatic transmission that allows you to stay in a specific gear... But it will still block you from downshifting if the resulting rpm will be too high...

These things have been around for ages... nothing new...
Like 50 years!

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Argo

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I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.

And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.
 

SithSolo1

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Originally posted by: Lithium381
just get the manual

Easier said than done. I can barely drive as it is, much less use a stick.

All of my family's cars are autos cept for my brother's STi.
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.

And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.

Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Originally posted by: Lithium381
just get the manual

Easier said than done. I can barely drive as it is, much less use a stick.

All of my family's cars are autos cept for my brother's STi.

That's still not a good reason.


"Go on now...tell the nice young man that you want the manual. There you go dear."

 

SuperTool

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What's wrong with getting a 5 speed Auto G35. It's a touring car more than a sports car.
There isn't much of a speed difference, so get what you like.
 

Argo

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.

And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.

Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.

Well, if you actually read my message you'll see that I said exactly the same thing. They are automatic in the sense that there is no stick and no clutch. Just 6 buttons.
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Originally posted by: Lithium381
just get the manual

Easier said than done. I can barely drive as it is, much less use a stick.

All of my family's cars are autos cept for my brother's STi.

You can barely drive and you're getting a G35? Uh, I'd learn how to drive first, thanks.
 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.

And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.

Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.

VW/Audi/Lambo have the same technology too I think, DSG.
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.

And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.

Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.

Well, if you actually read my message you'll see that I said exactly the same thing. They are automatic in the sense that there is no stick and no clutch. Just 6 buttons.

They're still not automatic transmissions. The difference is in the terminology and the technology.
 

Argo

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Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.

And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.

Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.

VW/Audi/Lambo have the same technology too I think, DSG.

I believe theirs is different. Instead of seperate button for each gear they have 2 buttons - up and down. This means you can't jump gears when shifting.

 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.

And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.

Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.

Well, if you actually read my message you'll see that I said exactly the same thing. They are automatic in the sense that there is no stick and no clutch. Just 6 buttons.

By your reasoning then, yes, automatics are for real men. Only if the car you drive is equiped with the same technology as the Formula 1 autos though.
 

Argo

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.

And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.

Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.

Well, if you actually read my message you'll see that I said exactly the same thing. They are automatic in the sense that there is no stick and no clutch. Just 6 buttons.

They're still not automatic transmissions. The difference is in the terminology and the technology.

Well, it's not a stick either :)
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny. And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.
Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.
Well, if you actually read my message you'll see that I said exactly the same thing. They are automatic in the sense that there is no stick and no clutch. Just 6 buttons.
They're still not automatic transmissions. The difference is in the terminology and the technology.
Well, it's not a stick either :)

Yea, they're not called "sticks" in the first place, they're called VEHICLES WITH MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS.
 

SithSolo1

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Not even sure if I will get a G35c but my father has promised me another car as soon as I start driving more.

G35c is the dream,
another truck will probably be the reality.
 

Argo

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By your reasoning then, yes, automatics are for real men. Only if the car you drive is equiped with the same technology as the Formula 1 autos though.

I'm just tired of people coming up to check out my car. And then when they find out it's an automatic their attitude changes. They frown and say "if i had a sports car I'd only get a stick". Well, when you get your sports car get a stick - this is my car and I drive whatever I want.

This whole "men drive sticks" idea is complete BULL IMO.
 

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Originally posted by: Argo
By your reasoning then, yes, automatics are for real men. Only if the car you drive is equiped with the same technology as the Formula 1 autos though.

I'm just tired of people coming up to check out my car. And then when they find out it's an automatic their attitude changes. They frown and say "if i had a sports car I'd only get a stick". Well, when you get your sports car get a stick - this is my car and I drive whatever I want.

This whole "men drive sticks" idea is complete BULL IMO.

Yup.

I drive manual as it is cheaper in England for a start and I have always driven manual. Learnt in a manual (most people in England tend to. Very rarely will people learn in an auto). A bit more fun at times when you want. Never driven auto and would be a bit strange to me at first probably.

Koing