Like 50 years!Originally posted by: BCYL
It's just an automatic transmission that allows you to stay in a specific gear... But it will still block you from downshifting if the resulting rpm will be too high...
These things have been around for ages... nothing new...
Originally posted by: Lithium381
just get the manual
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.
And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.
Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Originally posted by: Lithium381
just get the manual
Easier said than done. I can barely drive as it is, much less use a stick.
All of my family's cars are autos cept for my brother's STi.
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.
And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.
Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.
Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Originally posted by: Lithium381
just get the manual
Easier said than done. I can barely drive as it is, much less use a stick.
All of my family's cars are autos cept for my brother's STi.
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.
And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.
Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.
And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.
Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.
Well, if you actually read my message you'll see that I said exactly the same thing. They are automatic in the sense that there is no stick and no clutch. Just 6 buttons.
Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.
And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.
Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.
VW/Audi/Lambo have the same technology too I think, DSG.
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.
And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.
Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.
Well, if you actually read my message you'll see that I said exactly the same thing. They are automatic in the sense that there is no stick and no clutch. Just 6 buttons.
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Argo
I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny.
And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.
Formula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.
Well, if you actually read my message you'll see that I said exactly the same thing. They are automatic in the sense that there is no stick and no clutch. Just 6 buttons.
They're still not automatic transmissions. The difference is in the terminology and the technology.
Originally posted by: Argo
Well, it's not a stick eitherOriginally posted by: NutBucketThey're still not automatic transmissions. The difference is in the terminology and the technology.Originally posted by: ArgoWell, if you actually read my message you'll see that I said exactly the same thing. They are automatic in the sense that there is no stick and no clutch. Just 6 buttons.Originally posted by: NutBucketFormula 1 are not automatics. The are manuals that have computer controlled clutches. The computer can disengage, shift and rengage faster then any human can. BIG difference. This is the same type of setup Ferrari and BMW uses on their street machines.Originally posted by: Argo I have one of those auto-manual tannies. Basically, each company has their own name for it, but the concept is the same. You can down shift and upshift (without the clutch) and the auto tranny will shift in that gear. Like somebody in this thread mentioned, there are some restrictions. ECU won't let you downshift if doing so will cause the engine to redline. It will also downshift if your gear is too high for current speed. Either way, I don't see why you would want to do any of this even with manual tranny. And btw, for everybody saying that real men drive sticks - guess what - Formula 1 are automatics. It's similar to the clutchless auto-stick concept, except there's a separate button for each gear, so you can jump directly from 6th to 4th.![]()
By your reasoning then, yes, automatics are for real men. Only if the car you drive is equiped with the same technology as the Formula 1 autos though.
Originally posted by: Argo
By your reasoning then, yes, automatics are for real men. Only if the car you drive is equiped with the same technology as the Formula 1 autos though.
I'm just tired of people coming up to check out my car. And then when they find out it's an automatic their attitude changes. They frown and say "if i had a sports car I'd only get a stick". Well, when you get your sports car get a stick - this is my car and I drive whatever I want.
This whole "men drive sticks" idea is complete BULL IMO.
