who started the catholic doctrine isn't mentioned anywhere in the bible. Pentecost, and Baptist is mentioned though.
edit: I suck at linking
Genesis won't give you the answers dweeb. Baptists and Pentacost sects are not mentiond. Christ gave Peter the keys to heaven. Remember?
The irony of your statement is that Gay marriages cannot lead to child bearing (naturally) and are thus a genetic blind alley which results in no growth of society.
where does it say Peter started the Catholic Chruch in the Bible? and Baptist and Pentacost are mentioned many times in the Gospels and throughout the rest of the New Testament. Many Catholic Church members I run accross cry the same story, we are the only church, nevermind that much of the doctrine we follow isn't mentioned anywhere in the Bible, if you aren't catholic you aren't Christian, you're protestant and you're wrong, no matter if I'm not protestant (I'm actually Baptist), and I read my info right out of the Bible, just like every other Bible believing Church.
edit: my last off topic post, I promise. anyone wanting to continue the off topic ranting/hijacking start a new thread in P&N. (I won't join it as mentioned earlier P&N is blocked in my profile)
Basically, some of the people against same-sex marriage use their religious beliefs to justify their bigotry. They see any resistance to their forcing their beliefs onto other people as a curtailment of their religious freedom.
This is probably the most disturbing facet of this issue to me. People want to AMEND THE CONSITITUTION to make sure that some people call don't call their union a marriage. They don't care if gays get the exact same benefits as heteros, as long as it's a different WORD used.
There are many different christian religions. The christian religions that are not catholic are protestant.
The first christian religion was started by Peter through Jesus. This is the Catholic church. The people who did not believe everything that the catholic church believed, split off and formed their own sub-set of christian religion with their own beliefs. This is where protestant comes from. All christian religions that are not Catholic are protestant.
Yeah it's true... obviously a bone he threw to his "base" to get their vote. He couldn't get the votes in congress to amend.
What is scary though is that this is definitely occurring on a state level. Kansas is one step away from it as we speak. The President may not actually do it, but the support is there amongst an uninformed, fearful populace to keep homosexuality on the margins.
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Marriage should be left to the states anyway. The federal government has too much power... much more than our forefathers would have ever imagined or liked.
The 10th Ammendment:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Does the constitution talk about marriage? I didn't think so, but I could be wrong. If it doesn't, it should be left up to each individual state.
The 10th Ammendment:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Does the constitution talk about marriage? I didn't think so, but I could be wrong. If it doesn't, it should be left up to each individual state.
Come on man, you're asking a person that believes in an imaginary character to give you a rational answer? Come on.
That's a valid POV. What gets me though is that it's the repubs who are pushing so hard for the federal ban. Looks like they're all for big government when it reinforces their religious beliefs.
This is one of a multitude of reasons why I refuse to join a political party. It seems they're just meaningless labels.
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They are not religions, they are denominations. And as a christian I don't see how allowing gay marriage affects my religious freedom. It won't affect my salvation in any way, though it won't do anything to help assure the salvation of gay couples either.
IMHO it's all about economics.
The Republicans want to amend the US Constitution chiefly so that marriage doesn't fall under the 10th amendment! And even though Congress wouldn't pass it, the support is probably there from Joe Q. Public. Your average person in this country is so afraid of homosexuality they're willing to give the Federal Gov. more power to marginalize them.
It is a very dangerous precedent to use the Constitution to restrict the rights of the people.
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I understand that, and that's why I don't think that amendment should be passed, and federal judges shouldn't rule on the subject at all. I actually believe the same thing about abortion and a bunch of other topics. It should be left up to the states and the state constitutions. I'll probably get flamed for it, but that's what I believe.
Summary: If it isn't mentioned in the U.S. constitution, it's state domain. I think that's how the framers of the constitution wanted it.
Ture, they are denominations of a single religion. Thanks for pointing it out, even though that's what I meant in my head
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