Gay marriage today... polygamy tomorrow. That's why I'm against it.
What gives you the right to not let 3... 5... or 100 people get married. They are all consenting adults. Boy, that would really mess with the tax code and health care benefits that companies extend to significant others. Very interesting problem if you think about it.
What gives you the right to not let 3... 5... or 100 people get married. They are all consenting adults. Boy, that would really mess with the tax code and health care benefits that companies extend to significant others. Very interesting problem if you think about it.
nakedfrog
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There's only one path? Is that why we have different sects of christianity?
Jesus wasn't all about loving everyone? What's this mean then?
- You had the balls to say I've been blinded
- You paint every religion but your own in a negative light
- You go on to threaten me that if I lived in another nation I'd be dead
- You champion "Christian principles" as if you are protecting me from anything other than yourself
- You end your post with a stupid gay pun
- Where the hell do you think marriage came from
- I loved your sacred typo, made your whole post make sense
- More gay bashing
It appears you fall into lobadobadingdong's camp. You probably havn't even read the bible yet you use it as a weapon for your own rage on homosexuals. I mean you can't even go 2 posts without insulting a gay person. It is sad that these threads always end up as arguments with people such as yourself. Are you all the 'majority' has to show for defenders of same-sex marriage?
shortylickens
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So far as the Liberal/Conservative thing goes: apparently its acceptable to say something simple and cute in place of intelligent arguments. I guess this is why my country is going downhill slowly.
Back to the topic:
Its been touched on before but god/spiritualism is Person A believing in something. Religion is Person A making Person B follow his beliefs.
Religious freedom is making the government do your job for you.
I would like to see a lot more god and a lot less religion, just to see how it would work.
Holy Crap! In the two minutes it took to get my view in, 6 more people posted.
Back to the topic:
Its been touched on before but god/spiritualism is Person A believing in something. Religion is Person A making Person B follow his beliefs.
Religious freedom is making the government do your job for you.
I would like to see a lot more god and a lot less religion, just to see how it would work.
Holy Crap! In the two minutes it took to get my view in, 6 more people posted.
The right is not given because of the mess it would create. Wow you answered your own post and I had to point it out. It is only a problem because you pretend it to be. You fall into the "if it isn't white, it's black" camp. If we don't keep it 1 way, we have to do it every way, is some amazingly pitiful logic.
I meant that loving everyone wasn't all there was to him. :roll: doctrinal differences don't make the religion different, simply applications of certain rituals. (like baptism, some churches sprinkle water, some do full emersion, etc.) and yes there is only one path, believing in christ jesus, and repenting of your sins. (go to any/all christian churches and you will get the same answer)
lol... here we go. It only took 43 posts
Guys, DON'T GO OFF-TOPIC IN MY THREAD! I asked something very specific.
no that's according to the bible (repeated numerous times in the New Testament), and my particular doctrine doesn't have priests. edit: sorry this is going off topic with the naysayers. you pobably shouldn't have posted this in OT to begin with though.
If you followed Christ, wouldn't you want to be part of the religion he started (Catholicism) instead of the ones started by men (protestant)?
I thought Constantine (he was a man wasn't he) started the catholic church? at least thats what the history books say.
nakedfrog
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Originally posted by: Stefan
lol... here we go. It only took 43 posts
Guys, DON'T GO OFF-TOPIC IN MY THREAD! I asked something very specific.
Well, I think the only potentially valid answer came up on the first page (about a christian potentially having to sign a piece of paper). I don't even know how valid that is, because it's still not the religious ceremony itself, just the civil portion required by the government. So the person signing the paper wouldn't be condoning the marriage, just fulfilling his duty.
Oh, and anyone harping on the "marriage has meant xxx for a really long time!" argument needs to recognize that the definitions of words change over time as necessary. Why, not a hundred years ago, gay meant happy! WTF?!?
I'm not sure what history books you've read, but Jesus started the catholic church and appointed Peter as the first pope.
You don't have to be so mean. Some people are incapable of carrying on intelligent debate without putting down others. I was just giving my opinion. I disagree when you say rights shouldn't be given because it would be a mess. "Because it's hard to accomplish" is not a good reason to limit peoples rights, wouldn't you agree?
Sorry I had to step away...
Red Dawn - you missed my point. Both liberals and conservatives can have their way.
Marriage=religious institution only recognized by the "church". Said church can marry whomever they choose. If it's part of their religious belief, humans could marry animals...or it could be limited to heterosexual couples. Now conservatives get what they want.
Civil Union=state institution only recognized by the state. Basically take the rights of what we call married folk today and apply that to civil union. So what if the church says I'm married. The state doesn't recognize my union until I get a civil union license. Only then can I get the benifits of what today is called marriage. The state gets to determine who qualifies for the civil union. If the state votes for same sex civil unions, then same sex couples get unionized, or what today we call "married". It's all semantics.
Red Dawn - you missed my point. Both liberals and conservatives can have their way.
Marriage=religious institution only recognized by the "church". Said church can marry whomever they choose. If it's part of their religious belief, humans could marry animals...or it could be limited to heterosexual couples. Now conservatives get what they want.
Civil Union=state institution only recognized by the state. Basically take the rights of what we call married folk today and apply that to civil union. So what if the church says I'm married. The state doesn't recognize my union until I get a civil union license. Only then can I get the benifits of what today is called marriage. The state gets to determine who qualifies for the civil union. If the state votes for same sex civil unions, then same sex couples get unionized, or what today we call "married". It's all semantics.
This is an argument that is never going anywhere towards any kind of a GENERAL consensus in the US at least.......well, it does but not with the results that the most vocal on the subject want to hear. From what I have seen something like 80% of the people in the US are against gay marriage. If it went to a general vote it would be banned rather easily. The Congress is not going to make gay marriage legal if they are truly a "government of the people" either. Religion isn't even the important factor here considering the number of people against it. This is merely an issue of a small minority making an attempt to rewrite the rules that society has upheld for centuries upon centuries when the majority of the people want the rules to remain the same. Using the argument that just because it has been someway for centuries doesn't mean it should remain that way is BS also considering Democracy would dictate that it should stay the same since the vast majority disagrees with gay marriage.
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