How does one survive if you cant find a job and no support from parents?

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I'd work on a farm. You might have to travel, but you should be able to score free housing, and a modest amount of money. The pay is low, and the work is constant, but you'd have all the essentials covered.

Can looking into WOOF'ing if he just wants experience and room/food. No pay. Ive thought about it.
 

pauldun170

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Military - easy decision.
They teach you how to be organized and disciplined.
Food and shelter obviously.
The perks are outstanding.
Free ride to college (if you plan it out properly)
HUGE advantage when you are out. Having your VA card is like the most awesomest coupon book ever.
Being a vet has lots of perks
Everything from tax breaks, to being pushed to the top of the list for government jobs to health care (VA is like any other hospital/insurance plan...some locations its sucks other are great).

The important thing is to know your stuff before signing on the dotted line.
At 23 in the armed forces...you are going to make some awesome memories. Just don't knock anybody up, don't get seriously hurt and try not to get caught up with the boozer crowd.

Watch out for the Army though...bunch of scam artists in the Army.
 

TreyRandom

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In '89, I was two years out of high school, where I had graduated near the top of my class. But I ran out of money after my first year of college and was stuck in a dead-end photo lab job. My car broke down; I had no way to get to work and no money to repair it.

The very day my car broke down, the Army recruiter called and told me that I could get an $8000 bonus (plus the GI Bill) if I were to enlist in the military intelligence field. I had never before considered joining the military - not even jokingly - and I wasn't a real physical dude. But I went in to see what it was all about. After testing me, they offered me a job as an intelligence analyst/linguist.

Ended up serving 3 years active and 3 years reserve. I liked some things and disliked others. But I gained discipline, leadership skills, and a foreign language (Mandarin Chinese). Afterwards, I got a BS degree and became a computer tech. I now write IT training materials.

Don't let people convince you that only unskilled, uneducated losers with nowhere else to go join the military. Sure, there are some soldiers who fit that description. But the military is also a great way for a smart, motivated individual to pick up skills that will help you for the rest of your life. I don't regret it one bit.
 

blackdogdeek

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In '89, I was two years out of high school, where I had graduated near the top of my class. But I ran out of money after my first year of college and was stuck in a dead-end photo lab job. My car broke down; I had no way to get to work and no money to repair it.

The very day my car broke down, the Army recruiter called and told me that I could get an $8000 bonus (plus the GI Bill) if I were to enlist in the military intelligence field. I had never before considered joining the military - not even jokingly - and I wasn't a real physical dude. But I went in to see what it was all about. After testing me, they offered me a job as an intelligence analyst/linguist.

Ended up serving 3 years active and 3 years reserve. I liked some things and disliked others. But I gained discipline, leadership skills, and a foreign language (Mandarin Chinese). Afterwards, I got a BS degree and became a computer tech. I now write IT training materials.

Don't let people convince you that only unskilled, uneducated losers with nowhere else to go join the military. Sure, there are some soldiers who fit that description. But the military is also a great way for a smart, motivated individual to pick up skills that will help you for the rest of your life. I don't regret it one bit.

Thank you for your service.
 

GrumpyMan

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Construction, there is always construction somewhere in the US. Pays well too. You can also teach your buds about history during lunch breaks and after work having beers.
 

pcgeek11

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He can't get a job at a fast food restaurant. What makes you think he could get into the army?

I didn't say Army. I said Military in general. The Army does seem to be the easiest to get into however.
 

BoT

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I have a hard time believing that there is not a single job available you can do.
if that indeed is the case you need to leave from where ever you are and go somewhere else.
rake somebodies, yard, mow the lawn, collect cans, wash cars. on the other hand, if you really can not even get hired by micky d's maybe you should consider buttering up your parents. even if that means to kick a habbit.
I don't think the military would be a good idea. not saying it would not be good for you but if you do please don't join the army or marines. no pun but go to any other service
 

Mai72

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Military - easy decision.
They teach you how to be organized and disciplined.
Food and shelter obviously.
The perks are outstanding.
Free ride to college (if you plan it out properly)
HUGE advantage when you are out. Having your VA card is like the most awesomest coupon book ever.
Being a vet has lots of perks
Everything from tax breaks, to being pushed to the top of the list for government jobs to health care (VA is like any other hospital/insurance plan...some locations its sucks other are great).

The important thing is to know your stuff before signing on the dotted line.
At 23 in the armed forces...you are going to make some awesome memories. Just don't knock anybody up, don't get seriously hurt and try not to get caught up with the boozer crowd.

Watch out for the Army though...bunch of scam artists in the Army.

Let's look on the other side of the coin.

1. You get sent to Iraq and get a bullet in the side of your head, or a suicide bomber blows himself up next to you. Now, your body parts are spread out all over the Iraqi dirt floor.

2. You survive the middle east and come home to a country that doesn't care about you. You have a mental disorder from the horrific images you saw. You're addicted to meds now. You do drugs. You have a difficult time finding work. Sadly, nobody gives 2 f*cks that you're a military vet.

3. You're injured and come home only to find there is a 2 year waiting list at the nearest VA hospital. You wait patiently and die because the VA hospitals are incompetent.

4. You come home, get addicted to drugs and alcohol, and join the thousands of other military vets on the hard cold streets panhandling for food.

We treat our vets like sh*t.
 
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halik

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lets say you're 23 and graduated last year w/a degree in History.
you cant find a job, even at a McDonalds.

for whatever reason, tensions rise w/your parents and they kick you out of the house permanently.

You're now staying a friend's place but that's only going to last for a week or so.

What would you do?
Join the military?


The premise is untrue.

I hear North Dakota is dying to get people to help in the oil industry, alas you can't be a useless lazy fuck.

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2014/03/18/north-dakota-oil-skilled-labor-shortage/
 
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pcgeek11

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I have a hard time believing that there is not a single job available you can do.
if that indeed is the case you need to leave from where ever you are and go somewhere else.
rake somebodies, yard, mow the lawn, collect cans, wash cars. on the other hand, if you really can not even get hired by micky d's maybe you should consider buttering up your parents. even if that means to kick a habbit.
I don't think the military would be a good idea. not saying it would not be good for you but if you do please don't join the army or marines. no pun but go to any other service

Why not the Army or Marines?
 

pcgeek11

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Even the military isn't what it used to be, is it?

No, they are not anything like it was.

I retired in 1993 and talking to the newer members in the military they have it a lot better than we did. Better pay and allowances etc.
 

pcgeek11

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Let's look on the other side of the coin.

1. You get sent to Iraq and get a bullet in the side of your head, or a suicide bomber blows himself up next to you. Now, your body parts are spread out all over the Iraqi dirt floor.

2. You survive the middle east and come home to a country that doesn't care about you. You have a mental disorder from the horrific images you saw. You're addicted to meds now. You do drugs. You have a difficult time finding work. Sadly, nobody gives 2 f*cks that you're a military vet.

3. You're injured and come home only to find there is a 2 year waiting list at the nearest VA hospital. You wait patiently and die because the VA hospitals are incompetent.

4. You come home, get addicted to drugs and alcohol, and join the thousands of other military vets on the hard cold streets panhandling for food.

We treat our vets like sh*t.

Actually I have been treated quite well. Thanks for your concern however.

Oh and most of what you posted is pure bull shit.
 

sportage

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The issues with parents might be a clue something basically is not right.
And temporally status with staying with friends tells me they too are weary that you need some personality adjustment.
Most parents just do not kick their kid out, and most of ones friends are usually more open and more helpful.
I'd say the reason for no job is not the lack of employment opportunities but rather the potential employer feeling something is not quite with this applicant.

Stress? Lack of motivation? Emotional issues? Anger issues? Hygiene issues?

But there is a job out there.
Make a visit to your local employment office. They have plenty of job openings.
Maybe not what you had hoped, but still a start and a way of helping yourself out of a hole.

Address that attitude problem, then try the employment office.
That is why they are there.

And who knows, you might end up employed in something you never expected and end up falling in love with it.
Like a friend of mine that was in the same boat, tried gas station jobs that were awful and extremely stressful low pay work.
The employment office had an opening at a resort in his town of San Diego.
On the ocean bay as a resort assistant dealing with visitors, organizing activities and assisting long termed residents. Most so called snowbirds from all over the country.
He fell in love with the place, the people, and the position.
That actually saved his sanity and the dealing with people opened a whole new world for him that he never imagined existed.
So it just goes to show, you never know till you try.
Or, relocate to somewhere else with more opportunity.
 

minendo

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Not sure where you are located, but in my area manufacturing jobs are easy to come by. We just opened a plant in the Houston area and I've already had several people come in at just over minimum and be promoted to 2-2.5x their starting wage. Just find a good manufacturer to get in with and put in the time/effort and it will pay off.
 

OverVolt

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No, they are not anything like it was.

I retired in 1993 and talking to the newer members in the military they have it a lot better than we did. Better pay and allowances etc.

Lol yes but after around 2009 it wasn't as easy to get recruited was it?
 

Carson Dyle

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^ this

/me waits for the, where should I move to and how can I afford it? questions.

Don't hold your breath. The OP hasn't added a single comment or question to the thread.

Just another ATOT troll, although no one seems to care around here. Seems that everyone loves giving out advice that they know won't be taken.