How does one survive if you cant find a job and no support from parents?

JEDI

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lets say you're 23 and graduated last year w/a degree in History.
you cant find a job, even at a McDonalds.

for whatever reason, tensions rise w/your parents and they kick you out of the house permanently.

You're now staying a friend's place but that's only going to last for a week or so.

What would you do?
Join the military?
 

BoomerD

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By age 23, I had already done 4 for the Corps and was starting my union apprenticeship.

However, in your scenario, a history degree doesn't qualify a person for much of a job...so yeah...the military MIGHT be a good option. (really depends on the person though)
 

PliotronX

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  1. Whore myself out to widow sugarmamas like my uncle and the guy living with my mother in law
  2. Marijuana sales
  3. Military
  4. Suicide
 

Carson Dyle

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I get the distinct impression that the military would NOT be for you. There's little sense in going from bad to worse.

Move somewhere where you _can_ find a job. Things aren't that bad.
 

JMapleton

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What else could you do short of illegal activity? Move to where the jobs are (something most people in high unemployment states should be doing) or join the military.
 

pcgeek11

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How would it be worse? Have yiou ever served?

He has nothing now.

Military = support, food, shelter, education ... It is what you make of it.
 

Carson Dyle

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How would it be worse? Have yiou ever served?

He has nothing now.

Military = support, food, shelter, education ... It is what you make of it.

I have not. Ironically (or maybe not) in my day the ONLY people who joined the military after high school were those with very few other options or ambitions.

I did know a couple of guys in much the same position as the OP who entered the military a little later in life, during one of the recessions of the 80s. Big mistake. They were absolutely miserable. It's not quite the same for a 20-something who thinks he knows a little something as it is for a clueless 18-year-old who can barely find his own dick. There's a very good reason why people of that age are recruited and drafted to be cannon fodder.
 

Red Squirrel

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I've been pondering this myself, because my company just got fully bought out by the company that already partially owned it and I have a bad feeling there will be lot of major transformations. When it comes to this stuff, any job that does not require physical interaction with equipment is at risk. There are practically zero technology jobs here so if I did lose this job I'd pretty much be screwed.

Sometimes you have to look into what is in demand and do a change of industry. Here mining is big and so is trades. Mining is probably easier to get into as lot of jobs don't seem to ask for any major education. Hard labor work though, but it pays really well. Some of these jobs have nice incentives too like 1 week on 1 week off, so you can always try to work on your own gig during the off time.

Another option is work from home jobs, upon a quick search there seems to be some phone based support companies that offer such work and it looks pretty legit. Not sure how much they pay though.
 

irishScott

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I have not. Ironically (or maybe not) in my day the ONLY people who joined the military after high school were those with very few other options or ambitions.

I did know a couple of guys in much the same position as the OP who entered the military a little later in life, during one of the recessions of the 80s. Big mistake. They were absolutely miserable. It's not quite the same for a 20-something who thinks he knows a little something as it is for a clueless 18-year-old who can barely find his own dick. There's a very good reason why people of that age are recruited and drafted to be cannon fodder.

How is being miserable for 4 years a mistake? If you have few other options, I'd think food, water, shelter, employment and a future would outweigh one's "feelings". Be miserable for 4 years (or just suck it up like an adult and make the most of the adjustment), then you can go back to school on the GI bill for something that will get you a non-military job. Pretty sweet deal considering the alternatives.

Sounds like those couple of guys you knew were just whiny and a tad bit entitled. I'm in my mid-20s, I know a thing or two and I'd have zero issue saying "yes sir" and showering with a bunch of other dudes for 4 years if it jump-started the rest of my life.
 

manimal

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if you can navigate a browser and post here you can get a min wage temp job. Dont discount temping right now. The wages are as stagnant as they are for service jobs and it beats selling service plans. I Did retail and temp work when I was in my 20s and between the two sitting in an office in a ZERO expectation tast was much better than wearing a name tag and talking to elderly people.



If your as dumb as a box of rocks you can probably get you job in a warehouse moving things if your reliable.



So many things one can do out there its not even funny.
 

Blain

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lets say you're 23 and graduated last year w/a degree in History.
you cant find a job, even at a McDonalds.

for whatever reason, tensions rise w/your parents and they kick you out of the house permanently.

You're now staying a friend's place but that's only going to last for a week or so.

What would you do?
Join the military?
* Move to an area where jobs are more plentiful (bad relationships and unemployment aren't enough reason to hang around)
* Swallow pride and crawl back to parents, hoping they will take pity
* Make new friends for couch surfing (shouldn't be a problem for someone with a history degree and ample time on their hands)
* Joining the military may not be such a hot idea for someone used to no discipline, seeing as they tend to practice quite a bit of it
* Another option is applying for disability and getting on as many government handout lists as possible

By 23, I had been working full time for 6 years and married for 4.
 
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gorcorps

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Somebody who gets a degree in history has already proven that they have poor decision making skills, so it doesn't matter what they do.
 

lxskllr

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I'd work on a farm. You might have to travel, but you should be able to score free housing, and a modest amount of money. The pay is low, and the work is constant, but you'd have all the essentials covered.
 

Dari

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lets say you're 23 and graduated last year w/a degree in History.
you cant find a job, even at a McDonalds.

for whatever reason, tensions rise w/your parents and they kick you out of the house permanently.

You're now staying a friend's place but that's only going to last for a week or so.

What would you do?
Join the military?

Go to graduate school. You should also plan things better. Leaving school with no job/plan is stupid.
 

Rakehellion

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Since you're effectively homeless and have no support system, there's nothing stopping you from moving to a different city and starting over.
 

SandEagle

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it seems most of you have a reading comprehension fail. nobody cares what you would do or what options are available. OP specifically said no chance of getting a job. I'd probably bum a ride to mexico or brazil and live on the beach or something. i'd sell crack to the locals to get by.
 

lxskllr

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it seems most of you have a reading comprehension fail. nobody cares what you would do or what options are available. OP specifically said no chance of getting a job. I'd probably bum a ride to mexico or brazil and live on the beach or something. i'd sell crack to the locals to get by.

There's always a chance at a job. He needs to look harder. I gave one example, and if anyone here wants to work on a farm, and isn't completely useless, I can probably get them a job with the included free housing.
 

manimal

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it seems most of you have a reading comprehension fail. nobody cares what you would do or what options are available. OP specifically said no chance of getting a job. I'd probably bum a ride to mexico or brazil and live on the beach or something. i'd sell crack to the locals to get by.

not thats its very surprising but your nuts if you think its better to be poor in Brazil or Mexico VS the US. The Poor here have a standard of living better than some countries middle class. In a Favela in Brazil you would last a few hours maybe.
 
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I'd try harder to find a job. Go back to places you've already applied at and talk to the manager. Look into blue collar jobs. Maybe an apprenticeship into electricians, plumbing, etc.. Truck driving companies hire newbs all the time and train them up. Most will want you to sign a year contract. Work at a warehouse. Furniture moving. There's plenty of work out there.
 

Oyeve

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Commit a federal crime and get sent to a federal prison and watch TV all day and get 3 meals.
 

mnewsham

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Military generally isn't accepting people immediately, it would likely be several months before you'd actually leave for basic training, and what do you do in the meantime?