How does ATOT deal with their own mortality?

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mizzou

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Just curious. I have conflicted views, some terrifying, some easing. I believe the body is more or less just a mechanical piece of equipment that can be turned on once and then turned off once, more or less ceasing to exist.

But at the same time, I strongly feel that we know so little about what consciousness is, how time, space, and energy are understood. Case and point, I have never seen a ghost/spirit, but I believe a few certain people when I hear about them. Maybe it's not "ghosts" etc., but some shit is so bizarre that there really is no good explanation. Are these artifacts of the supernatural (dimensions/planes of existence) or are these factors proving a religious afterlife?

So I believe in some way, I will continue to exist, but in another way, I will not. It is what it is.

Curious what your thoughts are.
 
Ns1

Ns1

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don't think about it. it is what it is and i'll figure it out when i get there.
 
RPD

RPD

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I'm going to die some day.

There I dealt with it.
 
MrMuppet

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So, what I believe is that if "the body is more or less just a mechanical piece of equipment that can be turned on once and then turned off once, more or less ceasing to exist" then the consciousness/soul is the monitor/screen and it can then be attached to another "mechanical piece of equipment that can be turned on".

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Let me clarify. You're the screen, but since the computer thinks it's the computer, so does the screen. The screen just receives the output from the computer as its input and monitors it but doesn't really care. Connect it to another computer and the screen will now think it's the other computer because that other computer thinks so. The screen is the screen and doesn't die or change really (only its input does), but is unaware of it being the screen, existing or, perhaps more properly, experiencing.
 
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pelov

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It's pretty much like Weekend at Bernie's but with some necrophilia thrown in.
 
BurnItDwn

BurnItDwn

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When I die it will be the end for me. There is no afterlife. The only way anybody lives on is in another person's memory.

So, all that really matters about a person is what kind of impact they have made on others over the course of their life. If they helped people, they will be remembered well and it could be said they lived a good life. Otherwise they will either not be remembered, or worse.
 
MrMuppet

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BurnItDwn said:
When I die it will be the end for me. There is no afterlife. The only way anybody lives on is in another person's memory.

So, all that really matters about a person is what kind of impact they have made on others over the course of their life. If they helped people, they will be remembered well and it could be said they lived a good life. Otherwise they will either not be remembered, or worse.
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So, I never got that position. Why would the memory of you matter to you when you no longer exist to experience and only "live on" metaphorically?

Surely, if you want to help others, it's so they won't have to suffer (as much), even when you're gone. Regardless of how they remember you. Altruism.

Myself, honestly, I don't really care if I live on or not (I just think I will). Permanent death does not seem horrible to me at all, rather I see harmony and peace. Nirvana, if you will.
 
Baked

Baked

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I'm too kind to my bitches and hoes. I need to work on showing them my pimp hand more so they don't slack off and waste my money. It's just take take take, and don't give back.
 
mk

mk

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Eternal life would be absolutely horrible. Whatever the possibilities and limitations are in the afterlife you can experience everything possible to experience a million times and still have an eternity to go.
 
Jeff7

Jeff7

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GagHalfrunt said:
I'm immortal until proven otherwise.
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:D


I'm a cobbled-together collection of cells that happen to work reasonably well at keeping the collection in a state that most people would consider to qualify as "alive." Some of those cells are able to retain, generate, and store information thanks to electrochemical interactions between them. Once I'm dead, those cells will no longer be able to do any of those things, and the collection of information that is "me" will be permanently lost. That's pretty much it.

Kind of sucks for everyone who lives in the era before a cure for biological death is (eventually) found.:whiste:



mk said:
Eternal life would be absolutely horrible. Whatever the possibilities and limitations are in the afterlife you can experience everything possible to experience a million times and still have an eternity to go.
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Yes, I'd think that after watching 300 quintillion universes be born, expand, sprout up life and various other interesting things, and then slowly die off, you might begin to get slightly bored.
 
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dank69

dank69

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I've been spreading my seed at every opportunity. Spreading it to landfills counts, right?
 
Tweak155

Tweak155

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If you do any studies or research on what it takes to start life (supposedly), it is hard to believe it happens by chance. Not to mention where the heck did everything come from to begin with? And how is there a beginning?

It is mind boggling to think of, but I remember reading something a while back that made an interesting point about time. Time could have only been derived from something eternal because you can only have smaller parts of something when something larger is in existence.

So you can't have a slice of bread without the loaf for example. You can have a loaf without a slice, but not a slice without a loaf that it came from. This view can be on any number of objects that are at some point broken down.

So now you have a second which comes from a minute, a minute which comes from an hour, an hour which comes from a day, a day which comes from a week.... etc. Eventually it has to come from eternity, which is something we cannot measure. This makes it hard or impossible to understand. If we could view the loaf of bread as eternity, it is still one solid piece of something, with a beginning and an end, or it is a never ending piece of loaf.

The point being, we come from eternity. What that is, we may never know for sure, but there definitely exists something larger than we are. There can be multiple of those objects or a single object, but we know we're a "slice" of that object.

But then you get into the thoughts of well where did eternity come from?

In the end I don't think we can fully understand what is going on here without an observation of something we haven't seen yet.

I guess I don't view life as a single person's life, but life as a whole.
 
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