How does Anandtech feel about the FCC trying to change the rules of the Internet? (Net Neutrality)

[zinfamous]

Did you guys see how Ted Cruz started (and lost) a twitter fight with Luke Skywalker over NN?

http://www.slate.com/articles/techn...ust_photon_torpedoed_ted_cruz_on_twitter.html

 

[IronWing]

Vader was defending a modern meritocracy against an assault by old regime aristocrats and their gang of mystic warrior cult weirdos.

 

[shortylickens]

Oh yeah, I saw that.

He should probably stop tweeting entirely and wait for this to blow over.
Right now Mark Hamill is the most popular man in America.

 

[boomerang]

Everything is still working fine for me. How about the rest of you?

 

[brycejones]

Everything is still working fine for me. How about the rest of you?

No shit, you realize it doesn't go into effect until 60 days after it is published in the Federal Register right? You did know that didn't you?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Everything is still working fine for me. How about the rest of you?

*thwack*

 

[bshole]

No shit, you realize it doesn't go into effect until 60 days after it is published in the Federal Register right? You did know that didn't you?

Being informed is not generally one of the traits of partisans who support things that harm themselves. In any event it is not like ANYBODY was predicting the internet being killed immediately. Nothing may happen for a year or so, then there will be a little cut, then a knick, etc.... and voila in 5 years we find our internet bills mysteriously much larger and our access throttled.

This does not have to be our future. We can still raise holy hell when they draw first blood, we can file lawsuits, we can protest, etc.... It all depends how evil these ISPs get and if Republicans can rise above their partisanship to join us as we to fight for our rights. Given the ABSOLUTE dependence on the internet of so many Americans, this issue is of critical importance.

 

[brycejones]

Being informed is not generally one of the traits of partisans who support things that harm themselves. In any event it is not like ANYBODY was predicting the internet being killed immediately. Nothing may happen for a year or so, then there will be a little cut, then a knick, etc.... and voila in 5 years we find our internet bills mysteriously much larger and our access throttled. This does not have to be our future. We can still raise holy hell when they draw first blood, we can file lawsuits, we can protest, etc.... It all depends how evil these ISPs get and if Republicans can rise above their partisanship to join us as we to fight for our rights. Given the ABSOLUTE dependence on the internet of so many Americans, this issue is of critical importance.

But liburl tears are more important!

 

[boomerang]

No shit, you realize it doesn't go into effect until 60 days after it is published in the Federal Register right? You did know that didn't you?

I did not. But thanks for letting me know. I think this will be as big a deal as Y2K was which is why I haven't paid that much attention.

Now having said that, Republicans may choose to force companies like Google, Twitter, Facebook and the like to block liberal and progressive content but hey, that's just tit for tat. The winners make the rules.

I see no reason why the FCC under Trump can't be trusted to the same extent that the IRS, the FBI, the DOJ and all the other agencies could be trusted under the 0bama administration. To paraphrase 0bama, 'we won'. If it sucks for you, then it sucks for you.

As a side note, I've seen a lot of hate coming from the left directed towards a brown guy, Ajit Pai. That's cool though. Right?

 

[IronWing]

Y2K was a big deal. The adults took care of it.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I think this will be as big a deal as Y2K was which is why I haven't paid that much attention.

Y2K was a big deal. The adults took care of it.

This. Y2K was a very big deal, and poised to ruin a lot of people's day. But it was dealt with by brighter men and women before it became a problem, in the same way NN was placed in front of ISPs who were intent on ruining everyone else's day in the name of the almighty dollar.

As a side note, I've seen a lot of hate coming from the left directed towards a brown guy, Ajit Pai.

That's hate for Ajit Pai, who's a fucking asshole. Only one pointing out that he's brown is you.

 

[brycejones]

I did not. But thanks for letting me know. I think this will be as big a deal as Y2K was which is why I haven't paid that much attention.

As a side note, I've seen a lot of hate coming from the left directed towards a brown guy, Ajit Pai. That's cool though. Right?

So you haven't paid attention but somehow think you're informed enough to basically call it a nothing burger. Willful ignorance for the win I guess.

No one, absolutely no one has brought up Pai's skin color until now and it was you. People have been criticizing him for his policy positions.

 

[Younigue]

Everything is still working fine for me. How about the rest of you?

Ignorant Bliss is Everything to you.

 

[cliftonite]

Everything is still working fine for me. How about the rest of you?

Why don't you enlighten us on how this will improve anything?

 

[Younigue]

But liburl tears are more important!

I hear the taste of them gives Trumpublicans a sense of goodness and intelligence. It is fleeting, that is why they hunt them. Just a taste is never enough.

 

[Younigue]

So you haven't paid attention but somehow think you're informed enough to basically call it a nothing burger. Willful ignorance for the win I guess.

No one, absolutely no one has brought up Pai's skin color until now and it was you. People have been criticizing him for his policy positions.

LOL! Go get 'im bryce!

 

[WackyDan]

No shit, you realize it doesn't go into effect until 60 days after it is published in the Federal Register right? You did know that didn't you?

tit for tat... You know that the internet wasn't exactly the nightmare you people think it will be without NN given we saw it for many years without NN right? The sky is falling screams are not based on any reality.

 

[Younigue]

tit for tat... You know that the internet wasn't exactly the nightmare you people think it will be without NN given we saw it for many years without NN right? The sky is falling screams are not based on any reality.

That's crap. Protections were put in place for a reason. The greed of large corporations will Fu*k the people. They'll start with lube but it'll get dry and sore soon enough. Like rapists they won't care about the pain they inflict. You're being too simple. Stop it, just stop it.

 

[esquared]

Comments regarding net neutrality from dead people?
https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/18/more-dead-commenters-appear-to-come-out-against-net-neutrality/

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Comments regarding net neutrality from dead people?
https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/18/more-dead-commenters-appear-to-come-out-against-net-neutrality/

They were passionate about their beliefs enough to come back from the dead for a brief few minutes... why won't you let them RIP and respect their resurrecting wishes?

 

[esquared]

They were passionate about their beliefs enough to come back from the dead for a brief few minutes... why won't you let them RIP and respect their resurrecting wishes?

Of course, how insensitive of me.

 

[ch33zw1z]

tit for tat... You know that the internet wasn't exactly the nightmare you people think it will be without NN given we saw it for many years without NN right? The sky is falling screams are not based on any reality.

derp, more willful ignorance.

 

[darkswordsman17]

tit for tat... You know that the internet wasn't exactly the nightmare you people think it will be without NN given we saw it for many years without NN right? The sky is falling screams are not based on any reality.

You know that the FCC went through the whole thing specifically because multiple telecoms started intentionally sabotaging other companies, right? They were actively starting to fuck with things after NN was originally struck down. And they've started buying up media companies and even back end providers (Centurylink bought Level 3). But hey, we have people like you saying everything was fine, and everything will be fine...because you either are shills or shit for brains. Just because you didn't know what's been going on, doesn't mean things are fine.

Actually read up on this (you obviously won't because hey, why bother knowing facts when you can just shitpost, eh?). There's been tons of problems. And yes, some of them were due to legislation passed (the 1996 Telecom Act is what set this up, of course it was passed because of the telecoms lying and politicians believing them, like when we gave them billions in the early 90s to rollout fiber...which they didn't fucking do) and the FCC pulling shit like this before. And no, NN won't fix all of them, and the companies will still be able to screw people in many ways. But having an FCC that openly is antagonizing the people it is there to represent and defend...I really don't know how you can be saying the shit you are. Granted, you seem to be ignorant, so you obviously don't know. But then your ignorance is likely willful so that's on you. However, you spouting your garbage is not going to be just accepted.

By all means, provide us with all this incredible insight about how things were so fucking great without NN, but at least provide something of substance or shut the fuck up.

Comments regarding net neutrality from dead people?
https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/18/more-dead-commenters-appear-to-come-out-against-net-neutrality/

I've posted about this multiple times. This was known for months and is why the NY AG is trying to investigate the FCC. There's blatant fraud going on in this. That alone should have been enough to halt basically any changes by the FCC (let alone them being "hacked" like they claim...), but hey, Republicans keep telling us things are fine or that we were stifling competition (nevermind the telecoms told their investors pointedly that Title II and NN weren't actually affecting them much if at all).

 

[brycejones]

tit for tat... You know that the internet wasn't exactly the nightmare you people think it will be without NN given we saw it for many years without NN right? The sky is falling screams are not based on any reality.

Wacky post is wacky

 

[VirtualLarry]

So, the FCC is calling the repeal of Net Neutrality 'Restoring Internet Freedom'. We really need to point out that this is a lot like repealing the First Amendment and calling it 'Restoring Speech Freedom'. Net Neutrality is to the internet what the First Amendment is to speech.

It is now my belief that we need a new Constitutional Amendment to guarantee the free flow of information on the internet. The internet has become as important to a free democracy as the Press was in the late 1700s.

I agree. See this article:

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/15/fcc-net-neutrality-public-broadband-seattle/

“The FCC is doing the bidding of big business like Comcast, not the voters of either party, because public opinion is clear: 76% favor net neutrality, even including 73% of Republican voters,” she wrote. “Olympia should urgently pass net neutrality legislation in Washington State, and Seattle must invest in building municipal broadband, so no internet corporation has the power to prioritize making money over our democratic rights.”

(emphasis mine)

Imagine, if our voting booths were privately-owned, and could charge people to vote... then they started charging crazy amounts of money to be put on the ballot... that's a lot like our Net Neutrality issue.