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[ToBeMe]

Seems to me your taking things a bit to personal........ease up and relax!

 

[Viperoni]

You're leaving over something as silly as a flame war?
Come on, you know what you know, and I dont think there's anyone else that's tested as many boards as you have, just like nobody's tested as many Cpu's as compuwiz, as many Radeon's as me, etc.

Frankly, if you leave, the Atech forums would suffer a big loss

 

[Dulanic]

<< As I told Patrick time and time again in the thread, I've never had a problem with ANY of the Abit boards that I used so I was going to stand behind them. That was my whole point. But he kept insisting that Abit is crap and MSI is the &quot;end all, be all&quot; of motherboards. I then went on to explain that he couldn't just rag on quality issues/problems with Abit boards w/o mentioning all the problems people have had with the latest MSI boards. I never got personal with Patrick, but he DID get personal with me citing &quot;ignorance&quot; b/c I misread one of his responses...he later apologized. He was also quick to say that I was calling him biased when I did no such thing.

As I told Patrick, I respect his knowledge and his opinion...but most people do not take kindly to the &quot;I am holier than thou&quot; approach and that the &quot;buck stops with him&quot; when it comes down to testing motherboards. It just seemed to me that he was throwing his knowledge in the face of everyone who disagreed with him by stating that he knows more about motherboards than anyone here.

I think that is what sparked the flamewar which insued...and it was then that I left the thread b/c I didn't want to be apart of it.

But, Patrick is a GREAT resource to this board and I don't want to see him go b/c of a flamewar. >>



Ease up buddy, I wasn't insulting you. You can't say because you've used 2 or 3 Abit boards you know their RMA rate is low. I agree 100% if the board works they are good, thats not the issue Patrick ever brought up.

 

[Viperoni]

<< We all get sick of the Abit zealots sometimes PC Resources. They are worse then any Intel or AMD zealot, they just don't understand that Abit is not top quality and their RMA rate is very high. >>



I just RMA'ed my kt7-raid last week.

And another fact, guess what mobo Compuwiz uses to pretest his CPU's?
The MSI one (cant remember offhand), because it OC's BETTER

 

[Cubensis]

Never give up on a stupid mofu !!
Just stay with us and kick his balls around !!

 

[NFS4]

<< You can't say because you've used 2 or 3 Abit boards you know their RMA rate is low. I agree 100% if the board works they are good, thats not the issue Patrick ever brought up. >>


And I'm not arguing that either and where did I ever mention anything about RMA rates?:Q...but when he states that all Abit boards are crap, my ears perk up.

 

[Dulanic]

<< And I'm not arguing that either and where did I ever mention anything about RMA rates?...but when he states that all Abit boards are crap, my ears perk up. >>



Well Patrick also runs alot more extreme tests then either you or me do Hell for all I know maybe my A7V133 would fail the test too hehe, I doubt it but it could.

 

[NFS4]

<< Hell for all I know maybe my A7V133 would fail the test too hehe, I doubt it but it could >>


According to Patrick, Asus and Abit have the highest RMA rates.

 

[Sunner]

Well, though i seriously doubt Patrick's RMA rates for Asus(and yes this after working with Asus boards for a long time, and knowing others who do as well), I tend to agree with most of what he says, and I'll miss him.

Cya later, maybe, and dude, loosen the attitude a bit until the next time will ya

 

[Dulanic]

<< According to Patrick, Asus and Abit have the highest RMA rates. >>



While I haven't used as many boards as Patrick I have used a couple hundred. I will agree with Patrick that MSI has the lowest failure rate, I have never had a bad MSI board ever out of about 100. As for Asus Ive had I believe 2 out of nearly 200, still very respectable. But when it comes down to Abit.... good board if they work, Ive only used about 70 because 6 of them where DOA (Dead IDE, Dead USB etc...) and 3 dead within 2 months, so I stopped using them. And this seems to be the consencus amoung people who build PCs. You know if we could get Abit to kick up the QA, they would kick ass.

Either way even if I do disagree with Patrick on a few smaller things, but I don't take it personally. While I may use Asus the most and have the most respect for Asus, I will not hesitate to recommend a MSI if someone wants a ISA slot etc.. Heck I got one of my friend to buy a MSI Pro2 and he loves it

Either way Patrick is very valuable to this board and I sure hope he reconsiders.

 

[Sir Fredrick]

Sorry to see you go, you were a valuable contributing member to this board. I also must agree with your viewpoints on Abit and IDE RAID.

 

[ToBeMe]

That's just it.......you can't come in here and expect to survive a flame war if you carry a &quot;chip&quot; on your shoulder! (no pun intended) LOL! Everyone has a right to their opinion and things will be said....... SO WHAT!!!!

 

[Chad]

Patrick,

I've seen you around and have always enjoyed your posts. I've read the offending thread and easily concluded gothmoth is basically an idiot. Don't go because of one jerk. I would like to see you stay.

Believe me when I say this... I've seen MANY gothmoth types come AND GO... just ignore him like the rest of the intellectuals here do.

Hang tough bud.

For future reference...

Never argue with an idiot, they'll only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. TRUTH!

 

[Dulanic]

<< That's just it.......you can't come in here and expect to survive a flame war if you carry a &quot;chip&quot; on your shoulder! (no pun intended) LOL! Everyone has a right to their opinion and things will be said....... SO WHAT!!!! >>



Why does he have a &quot;chip&quot; on his shoulder? Because he has the experience to make a statement? I wouldn't call it a chip shince alot of the people who build alot of PCs (Like myself) have experience with Abit and came to the same conclusions. And surely everyone can have an opinion, we all do. I prefer Asus but I use others also, Patrick prefers MSI but Im sure he uses others too. But when we come to Abit and high RMA rates etc... its not opinion. Its been said on some websites, its been said by distributors (All 4 I use agree they would prefer not to sell Abit because of RMA rates), its been said by people here who use alot of boards. Id honestly be rather suprised to find many resellers who sell alot of boards, say they like selling Abit..... I know none around here do, but they do because there is a demand. If it was just him who had this experience then yes maybe it would be a chip on his sholder..... but he's far from alone in stating Abit has a very high RMA rate compared to any other big MB maker. Thats out biggest gripe, Im sure if you ask any of us saying this we would all agree if Abit kicked up the QA and overall quality we would be happy to use them.

Either way once again I repeat!!! Don't leave Patrick your knowledge and experience is extremelly helpful to people, and a large majority of people would hate to see you leave.

 

[ToBeMe]

Who said anything about his &quot;preferences&quot; or &quot;expierience&quot;? If you get into a flame war and take what people say personaly because they disagree with what you're saying........You've got a &quot;chip on your shoulder&quot;! I don't care who you are or how good you are someone is going to have an equally strong opinion oppisite yours and if you take what is said in the heat of arguement to heart, then crawl away, you need to work on things! Sorry but that's the way it is.....If you're good enough at what you do, why should others opinions of that, or yourself bother you?

 

[NesuD]

Patrick, Giving up over that thread seems a bit extreme. I have read many of your posts and typically find them informative. In that thread I understood completely what you were saying. Unfortunately the way you said it has caused you some grief. Gothmoth is what he is and all of us here know what that is so we just try to ignore most of that type of thing. The only mistake you made was not sticking to the facts and making veiled threats like the attempts to find out his last name implying that you would go to Siemans about what he was doing here. That was a poor way of handling him. The trick to staying on top with guys like that is to stick to the facts. Politely consider what they say and then slice them up with facts. Never let it become personal or degenerate into name calling. If a statement is in error acknowledge it right away that way it can't be used against you. My opinion on that thread is while you were right on what you were saying in most cases you needed to define your exact meaning a bit better on some things. As far as your exchanges with gothmoth while he is clearly off base you were also pouring a little gas on that fire in the way that you chose to deal with him.
Chalk it up as a learning experience then move on. I don't really see it as good reason to quit the board.

 

[compuwiz1]

Well, viperoni, used my name... LOL
Patrick, settle down. You're a good hand around here are are appreciated. I could have left along time ago, due to people rubbing me the wrong way at times. That's a very small percentage ( 1 or 2 people), based on the majority support I've seen from you.

I sell several hundred pretested OC'd cpus each month. Guess which board I test on?
I almost always knock 50MHz off my guarantee, just in case of an Abit or other less stable, board. The MSI simply give me the most overclocked speed, best stability. I realized this early on, when I would get writebacks asking me why the CPU tested at 1GHz for me, as example, but they could only get it to 950 on their end. I personally sold a TBird 700 @ 900 to Red Dawn. He put it in a KT7 and could only get 850, then he put it in the MSI and get what he was sold.

 

[ArkAoss]

you all need to just drop this and GROW UP i wann look into some real general hardware, not &quot;I'm a whomp rat don't skin me&quot;

 

[peemo]

I second that ArkAoss! Very eloquently stated.

No more rat's ass threads in General Hardware.

 

[PCResources]

First of all, i will be around long enough to help the people that have PM'd me... I came into this forum with an idea, the idea was to help people, with my experience, i thought that i could do so...

This is not the first time i have been called names, and it is not the first time that people have flamed me...

I good flame i can take, maybe even like, but the meaningless flames make me very disappointed...

Sure, NFS4 is right, but haven't i always apologized when my answers were to arrogant... I am a self confident, arrogant son of a b*tch, that is who i am, that i know... i tried to tone it down...

The problem arises when people who obviously do not have one percent of the experience that i have had try to tell me what's real and what's not... NFS4, you defend that Abit board so blindly, and i have told you that i think it's great that you have a great board that you are happy with, i have stated that... BUT from experience i know that the RMA/DOA rates are higher for both Abit and ASUS boards than for MSI, so i recommend them...

I am leaving as soon as i have anwered all of the PM's, then it is up to you guys to help people out here...

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for PC Resources

 

[dcdomain]

Grow a skin dude, you are definitely a plus around this forum...

Hell I'm pretty much a 'leech' member, I don't spend as much time as you helping people. I can understand why you are feeling low getting crap back when you've spent so much time and resources helping people. But grow a skin and keep on treading... I get crapped on all the time, and you just have to realize some people's opinions are just different and let it be...

Don't leave!!!

 

[A2KLAU]

Come on PCResources! I have been flamed many times when I was new and using my very old account. I have not taken it to personally! Don't leave us! You have helped many of us and we all appreciate it! Don't go! These forums need as many people as possible, and when ou are gone, then if someone who needs help and you are the only one thatknows the answer and is not around then isn't that unfair and shelfish to that person? Please don't go! I may still be only kind of new to these forums, but trust me, the further on in these forums you go the more respect and experience you will gain from us.

And anyway look at how many of us wants you to stay! Those people who did that to you should be the ones who are kicked off not you! They are abusing the forums! You should report them not yourself to the Mods! they should be the ones cautioned.

Take my advice onboard and you will be fine, and also take on the other people's advice too.

Good Luck,

Albert.

P.S It is always sad for all of us to see another person go!

 

[Noriaki]

I'll miss you Patrick. The board is losing a good member.

 

[thorin]

Patrick, sorry to see you go dude, you added some good info and input to the board. However I hate to say I am less then happy to see this sad grab for attention dude. If you aren't interested in posting etc then just don't come here anymore. &quot;How do I unregister&quot; you may as well say &quot;A 12yr old flamed me, I'm scared. Please give me attention and lots of it.&quot;

Modus
&quot;I remember two years ago I had the whole board against me when I dared to claim that winmodems could equal hardware modems, or that partitioning yielded no benefits for the vast majority of users. Then, I was ridiculed, but today, I've earned enough respect that I'm considered a guru on those subjects.&quot;

You are considered a WinModem Guru but we still ridicule you for supporting winmodems, usb, amr, cnr, and other CPU loading tech.

Thorin

 

[TravisBickle]

being a troll means never having to say you're sorry