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How do you spell Hypocrite?

lupi

lupi

Lifer
So the local Obamabots were all up in a tizzy when their man stated his opposition to the gas tax holiday. It's blasphemy to allow the citizens to keep the money they've earned, besides the big oil would just countinue to manipulate too keep prices high.


And yet today we find our favorite snake oil salesman voting to suspend oil appropriations for the national reserve to attempt and lower prices for the consumers.

Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, must just be oridinary politics being divisive against the coming prophet.


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Any more flaming the OP will earn a vacation

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Common Courtesy
 
Originally posted by: lupi
So the local Obamabots were all up in a tizzy when their man stated his opposition to the gas tax holiday. It's blasphemy to allow the citizens to keep the money they've earned, besides the big oil would just countinue to manipulate too keep prices high.


And yet today we find our favorite snake oil salesman voting to suspend oil appropriations for the national reserve to attempt and lower prices for the consumers.

Lloks like a duck, quacks like a duck, must just be oridinary politics being divisive against the coming prophet.
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Are you really this desperate? Do you know even the slightest thing about Obama's objections to the gas tax holiday? Do you understand even the slightest thing about why suspending oil appropriations to the national reserve would be different?

This post makes you look really stupid, I would suggest editing it or deleting it altogether.
 
Originally posted by: lupi
Not when the stated reason for both is the same.
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Obama (and about every economist on the planet) thinks that eliminating the gas tax will not alter the supply and demand dynamics that are leading to high gas prices and will instead lead to larger gas sales and more oil company profits at the expense of huge federal tax shortfalls that will have to be financed through more borrowing. Suspending purchases for the strategic petroleum reserve will alter the supply and demand dynamic (albeit only slightly), but more importantly will do so without blowing a huge hole in the budget or giving a large profit windfall to the oil companies through federal tax dollars.

Gee, I wonder how someone could support one of these and not the other. They must be a hypocrite.
 
Hey I am sure all of these candidates will immediately address our high fuel prices by subsidizing some inefficient high cost alternative energy sinkhole.

They are all snake oil salesman on this issue.
 
Originally posted by: lupi
So the local Obamabots were all up in a tizzy when their man stated his opposition to the gas tax holiday. It's blasphemy to allow the citizens to keep the money they've earned, besides the big oil would just countinue to manipulate too keep prices high.


And yet today we find our favorite snake oil salesman voting to suspend oil appropriations for the national reserve to attempt and lower prices for the consumers.

Lloks like a duck, quacks like a duck, must just be oridinary politics being divisive against the coming prophet.
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Gas tax holiday - supply remains the same, demand remains the same, we take out the tax, hope the oil companies pass on the savings, and find some other way to fund highways.

National reserve solution - supply increases, demand remains the same, we rely on sound economic principles to adjust gas prices, and highways continue to be funded.

I'm not naive enough to think I've explained this to you, but at least maybe unbiased readers won't be influenced by your nonsense.
 
I know how to spell troll, and that's l-u-p-i

The problem with the gas tax "holiday" is that even most conservatives and libertarians think it's a bad idea (along with all economists). You can't use the old "allow the citizens to keep the money they've earned" rhetoric because the gas tax is a use tax, not an income tax. You pay only as much as you drive, and all of the proceeds of the tax go to the roads. If we must have taxes, it doesn't get any better. While any brief "holiday" of the taxes would only have been shooting ourselves in the foot by reducing highway funds at a time when the nation's road infrastructure is in desperate shape.
 
This is seriously the worst attack thread I've seen in awhile. If you honestly think suspending the gas tax will lower gas prices, you're just simply a fool. And voting to divert more oil into the supply chain has nothing to do with the gas tax. Its simply an acknowledgment that the reserves are good and don't need the same appropriation.

But here I am bringing logic into a mindless "OMG! OBAMA IS A COMMIE MUSLIM!" thread.
 
The new classic definition spelling of hypocrite accepted world wide is GWB and Cheney. Or we can add in Rice and Gonzales and Scotter Fibby.

Compared to those folks, people like McCain and Obama are more garden variety political panderers. Only amateurs not even in the big leagues yet.
 
Occassionally on slow news days I'd start incendiary threads just to have something to talk about. But I'd try to at least make it about something interesting.
 
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Any more flaming the OP will earn a vacation
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Wouldn't it be better just to lock the thread then considering that the OP is obviously flamebaiting?
 
As has been stated by several sources, supply and demand is not a primary reason for the current gas prices. Eliminating the tax immediately lowers the prices by 18.9c. Eliminating a part of a demand stream (the entire US government) is only hoping that the action to do so will effect the speculative element of the current cost structure.

A blazingly clear case of he knows better than you on how to spend your money.
 
I am the first guy to rail on taxation but in this case lowering the gas tax wont do a whole hell of a lot except require congress fund highway construction via bonds or income taxes or a combination.

The price is where it is at and will be until we decide to increase supply or lower demand.
 
Originally posted by: lupi
As has been stated by several sources, supply and demand is not a primary reason for the current gas prices. Eliminating the tax immediately lowers the prices by 18.9c. Eliminating a part of a demand stream (the entire US government) is only hoping that the action to do so will effect the speculative element of the current cost structure.

A blazingly clear case of he knows better than you on how to spend your money.
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It's 18.4 cents and there has been NO talk of "eliminating" this tax, just of a brief 3 month suspension or "holiday." Nor has there been any agreement that the gas prices would be "immediately" lowered, with most experts believing that -- at best -- it would take weeks for the price adjustment to flow down the supply chain. You also overlook the equity and benefits of this tax. It's a use tax. It pays for the roads.

And really, if you're going to keep flame-baiting, then IMO this thread needs a lock.
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: lupi
Not when the stated reason for both is the same.
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Obama (and about every economist on the planet) thinks that eliminating the gas tax will not alter the supply and demand dynamics that are leading to high gas prices and will instead lead to larger gas sales and more oil company profits at the expense of huge federal tax shortfalls that will have to be financed through more borrowing. Suspending purchases for the strategic petroleum reserve will alter the supply and demand dynamic (albeit only slightly), but more importantly will do so without blowing a huge hole in the budget or giving a large profit windfall to the oil companies through federal tax dollars.

Gee, I wonder how someone could support one of these and not the other. They must be a hypocrite.
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exactly. im not surprised it's the OP anyways
 
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