How do you respect somebody elses religion?

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: rpanic
Any religion that is my way or the highway (to hell in some cases) should not get any respect since they fail to respect others that might think differently.

Christians say I am going to hell, and Muslims want me dead, no way to win with these groups.

The problem is.. what if those groups are right (one of them taht is)?

 

[Stoneburner]

Originally posted by: spittledip

Originally posted by: rpanic
Any religion that is my way or the highway (to hell in some cases) should not get any respect since they fail to respect others that might think differently.

Christians say I am going to hell, and Muslims want me dead, no way to win with these groups.

The problem is.. what if those groups are right (one of them taht is)?

Then every other one is wrong 🙂

 

[rpanic]

Maybe I?ll go to heaven for checking ?none of the above?. 🙂

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner

Originally posted by: spittledip

Originally posted by: rpanic
Any religion that is my way or the highway (to hell in some cases) should not get any respect since they fail to respect others that might think differently.

Christians say I am going to hell, and Muslims want me dead, no way to win with these groups.

The problem is.. what if those groups are right (one of them taht is)?

Then every other one is wrong 🙂

exactly.. everyone else. that is just part of the belief. if people choose to be offended by that, what can you do?

 

[piasabird]

People should be able to have a discussion about religion without anyone dying, or having physical violence. If you insult my religion I should be able to get over it. Maybe you will go to hell maybe you wont. It is not for me to decide who goes to Hell. In a way you decide if you go to hell. You can lie to us, but you can never lie to yourself. Well maybe if your are scyzophrenic(Spell) you may have 2 people inside your head and you can have a conversation and lie to yourself. I think God can forgive you for many things and that people can in fact have a change of heart and try to change their life for the better. So, it is best just to try to tell people about salvation and the gospel and let them decide for themselves.

I believe God is willing to consider whether people are good or not. It is not my problem if somone else chooses to be evil and goes to hell. I can only try to make people consider the alternatives. That is why I dont condemn the sinner, only the sin. I think most people have plenty of capacity to do good.

 

[wnied]

How do you respect somebody elses religion?

You dont. You respect their right to observe it, in their own way.


~wnied~

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: wnied

How do you respect somebody elses religion?

You dont. You respect their right to observe it, in their own way.


~wnied~

I blinked when I read this. It is the truest comment in this thread. Thx for pointing this out.

 

[Stoneburner]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: wnied

How do you respect somebody elses religion?

You dont. You respect their right to observe it, in their own way.


~wnied~

I blinked when I read this. It is the truest comment in this thread. Thx for pointing this out.

Yep. It basically says "I respect your right to be wrong, so wrong that you are possibly going to be eternally damned because you didn't accept jeebus."

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: wnied

How do you respect somebody elses religion?

You dont. You respect their right to observe it, in their own way.


~wnied~

I blinked when I read this. It is the truest comment in this thread. Thx for pointing this out.

Yep. It basically says "I respect your right to be wrong, so wrong that you are possibly going to be eternally damned because you didn't accept jeebus."

QFT

 

[Madwand1]

Originally posted by: wnied

How do you respect somebody elses religion?

You dont. You respect their right to observe it, in their own way.

False. This statement doesn't speak for me. I respect all major religions in my way.

There are a number of different levels to consider though. E.g.:

1. Your practice of your religion.
2. The tenets of the particular flavor of your religion as specified by the local religious authority.
3. The tenets of your religion as a whole as specified by the global religious authority or closest approximation to that should one exist.
4. The core of your religion as stated by the canonical texts of your religion.
5. The core of your religion as intended by the primary author of your religion.
6. God.

My stated respect for all major religions is within levels 4 and 6. Levels 1 to 3 are pretty much the practices of various people, which I leave level 6 to judge.

All religions worth considering IMO value humility, selflessness and love, and all this talk of not respecting another's religion is exactly opposed to this.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Madwand1

Originally posted by: wnied

How do you respect somebody elses religion?

You dont. You respect their right to observe it, in their own way.

False. This statement doesn't speak for me. I respect all major religions in my way.

There are a number of different levels to consider though. E.g.:

1. Your practice of your religion.
2. The tenets of the particular flavor of your religion as specified by the local religious authority.
3. The tenets of your religion as a whole as specified by the global religious authority or closest approximation to that should one exist.
4. The core of your religion as stated by the canonical texts of your religion.
5. The core of your religion as intended by the primary author of your religion.
6. God.

My stated respect for all major religions is within levels 4 and 6. Levels 1 to 3 are pretty much the practices of various people, which I leave level 6 to judge.

All religions worth considering IMO value humility, selflessness and love, and all this talk of not respecting another's religion is exactly opposed to this.

Um no. Most, but certainly not Islam. Sure, there are LOTS of muslims who DO practice this, but they arent muslims at the core. Muslims at the core follow, to the best of their ability, the Quoran. The Quoran does NOT preach humility, love, or peacefulness.

It's the same as Christians who claim they practice their faith, yet attend 2 services a year, and are active drug dealers. Yeah I know no one is perfect. However, those who practice their religion follow the rules given to them in their instruction manual (quoran, bible, etc)

 

[Madwand1]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Um no. Most, but certainly not Islam. Sure, there are LOTS of muslims who DO practice this, but they arent muslims at the core. Muslims at the core follow, to the best of their ability, the Quoran. The Quoran does NOT preach humility, love, or peacefulness.

I wrote of valuing humility, selflessness and love and my intent was: (a) That you should find these values in your own religion. (b) If you find these values in your own religion, then you should intend to act upon them. (c) If you consider this and intend to act on it, you should see how this moves you towards the tolerance of another's religion.

I'm going to forgo spelling it out further, because I believe that in order to do these things, they're better if they come from inside you instead of some sort of imagined outside force from me.

I did not claim that everyone would see other religions positively. I claimed that it is possible for me to do so, and I gave some sense of how.

If you honestly claim that your own true religion absolutely does not value humility, selflessness and love, please stand up and affirm that and tell us why not. Showing how it values arrogance, selfishness and hate for example would suit this purpose.