calm down, binary boy, and let me introduce you to the concepts of cognizance and moderation.
you do know the difference between walking in the rain, and running around in an open field holding a metal pole, dont you?
no because if its just raining, wtf is there to worry about?
seriously carcinogenics are so over rated its not funny. there are so many and so many of those require SUCH extreme exposures it isnt funny.
So what do you think is more hazardous to your health, drinking to excess or a piece of burnt freakin' toast? In the end, there are 1000's of substances that are more likely to be MUCH more carcinogenic than substances found in burnt toast, so your whole argument was based on this milquetoast evidence that burnt toast MIGHT contain a carcinogen (so does just about every damn thing) isn't exactly "racking up his cancer" risk at least comparatively to NORMAL everyday American lifestyle.
because it absolutely does not serve to the original intent (to help against hangover) thus is circumstantially unecessary
i hope that idea wasnt too difficult to connect for everyone else ....
Rock Hydra
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I'd say limit yourself, obviously. But you already knew that.
That being said, if you find yourself overdoing it:
1) Eat before, during, and after. You don't need to cram entire pizzas down your throat, but eat a decent meal to start yourself off and snack throughout your evening.
2) Drink water. Not just a big glass right before bed. Drink it all the time, every day, throughout the day, and your body will stay hydrated. This alone will prevent the majority of hangovers.
3) Don't drink "one last beer" before going to bed. Leave a good 30-45 minutes minimum between your last drink and going to sleep. I'm not sure why, but this step alone also makes a huge difference. Probably due to metabolic rates dropping a lot when your body falls asleep.
That being said, if you find yourself overdoing it:
1) Eat before, during, and after. You don't need to cram entire pizzas down your throat, but eat a decent meal to start yourself off and snack throughout your evening.
2) Drink water. Not just a big glass right before bed. Drink it all the time, every day, throughout the day, and your body will stay hydrated. This alone will prevent the majority of hangovers.
3) Don't drink "one last beer" before going to bed. Leave a good 30-45 minutes minimum between your last drink and going to sleep. I'm not sure why, but this step alone also makes a huge difference. Probably due to metabolic rates dropping a lot when your body falls asleep.
Hangover > possibility that burnt toast MIGHT contain a trace amounts of a carcinogen which is a substance that is CAPABLE of initiating the development of something that could be malignant. I don't think this was a lifestyle threat predicated on how to prevent cancer, but how not to wake up with a goddamn hangover, unless I've misconstrued the OP in some way.
All I have to say is you are on an absolute tear tonight, and I'm loving every minute of it.
:beer:
1. drinking is inconvertibly more malignant, but that wasnt the subject of debate. i would recommend, as the #1 prevention of hangovers, to drink under moderation
2. burnt toast contains carcinogens... not MIGHT, not MAY, not POSSIBLY, but DOES
3. my lifestyle includes drinking and enjoying sushi, but both activities are to fulfill my enjoyment.. im not turning bread into charcoal and munching them down as faux remedies
now you're in my arena
. i do, in fact, drink many beers with yeast included. hell, i probably spend wayyy more than anyone should on "quality" top-fermenting wheat ales. and i do occasionally drink the cheap crap in the can, and whiskeys (and whiskys), and quality cocktails, and cheap well cocktails downtown, and so and so. and you know what? it makes no difference in regards to hangovers.
the maxim that poor quality alcohol induces hangover, along with the 'beer before liquor' poo are both myths that get perpetuated...big help from the internet
Originally posted by: LS20
1. drinking is inconvertibly more malignant, but that wasnt the subject of debate. i would recommend, as the #1 prevention of hangovers, to drink under moderation
2. burnt toast contains carcinogens... not MIGHT, not MAY, not POSSIBLY, but DOES
3. my lifestyle includes drinking and enjoying sushi, but both activities are to fulfill my enjoyment.. im not turning bread into charcoal and munching them down as faux remedies
now you're in my arena
and you know what? it makes no difference in regards to hangovers.
the maxim that poor quality alcohol induces hangover, along with the 'beer before liquor' poo are both myths that get perpetuated...big help from the internet
the sun can cause cancer too. avoid it
This works for me every time:
After you get home (say 2am), immediately drink at least 1/2 litre (1 quart) of Gatorade. Wait 15 minutes or so, and drink another 1/2 litre of Gatorade (it's now 2:15-2:30). Wait as long as possible. Drink another 1/2 litre (3:15am) and then wait as long as you can and go to bed (4am). The less drunk you are when you fall asleep the better off you will be in the morning.
And there it is.. no hangover. Works for me anyways. In fact I am doing that right now.
EDIT: Goodnight.
After you get home (say 2am), immediately drink at least 1/2 litre (1 quart) of Gatorade. Wait 15 minutes or so, and drink another 1/2 litre of Gatorade (it's now 2:15-2:30). Wait as long as possible. Drink another 1/2 litre (3:15am) and then wait as long as you can and go to bed (4am). The less drunk you are when you fall asleep the better off you will be in the morning.
And there it is.. no hangover. Works for me anyways. In fact I am doing that right now.
EDIT: Goodnight.
sex
if you can't prevent the hangover, morning after sex is the best cure for any hangover. Seriously.
if you can't prevent the hangover, morning after sex is the best cure for any hangover. Seriously.
so you simultaneously refuse to believe that burnt toast contains benzopyrene and that carcinogens incite cancer, yet somehow you grasp on the fact that eating burnt toast will help prevent hangovers via increasing carbon to filter alcohol that's already consumed. i guess one's rationale is not meant for another to understand. whatever. go ahead and circulate myths and lores.. you all seem quite adept at it. im sleeping, and waking up refreshed
I do at all costs. I also don't drink tap water, or breathe air or eat processed foods. I also conveniently happen to live in an anachoic chamber completely encased within a Faraday cage to protect myself from electro-magnetic radiation and reflection. I plan to live a long, cancer-free life.
Originally posted by: LS20
1. drinking is inconvertibly more malignant, but that wasnt the subject of debate. i would recommend, as the #1 prevention of hangovers, to drink under moderation
2. burnt toast contains carcinogens... not MIGHT, not MAY, not POSSIBLY, but DOES
3. my lifestyle includes drinking and enjoying sushi, but both activities are to fulfill my enjoyment.. im not turning bread into charcoal and munching them down as faux remedies
now you're in my arena
and you know what? it makes no difference in regards to hangovers.
the maxim that poor quality alcohol induces hangover, along with the 'beer before liquor' poo are both myths that get perpetuated...big help from the internet
And your proof regarding this is...?
'Liquor before beer'/'Beer before liquor' are far more emphasized than they should be, but they are not just 100% BS myths. The truth is, carbonation causes rapid entry into your bloodstream, so if you drink a bunch of beer and then pound down some shots it's not going to work out very well.
The saying probably comes from that knowledge, rather than "OMG I drank beer an hour ago and now I'm drinking a shot of whiskey, I'm going to die!"
It's not the type of alcohol (beer versus liquor) that matters in that case, it's just the way that it is processed by your body. If you've ever noticed that beer can give you a buzz almost immediately and liquor takes a little while (this effect being more noticeable on an empty stomach) you'll understand better how this works.
my experience from havingmore than my share of alcohol. there are many variables to how quickly one feels the effect of alcohol regardless of source. on an empty stomach, and/or especially with heat, both will produce a 'buzz' quite quickly
carbonation causes rapid entry into bloodstream... ok, assuming that for the sake of argument... the rate of assimilation will still have no bearing in the hangover that one feels 8 hours later. by the time one wakes up, the alcohol will have been well absorbed in the bloodstream regardless of one being consumed 30 minutes prior to the other during the night before.
in the end, the biggest factors are how much alcohol one's had and how much water one's supplemented for the hydration. that's what im standing by. the rest of you can go on with your old wive's tales ... theyre just about as legit as the hangover pills on TV
Water is definitely the most influential factor here. I totally agree with you on that.
But I think where the "beer before liquor" stuff comes from is the fact that the speed at which you consume alcohol has a very direct effect on how you feel afterward.
If you drink one beer per hour over a 10-hour long period, you will probably not feel much of a hangover, if any. If you drink 10 beer within one hour and then stop drinking, you will probably feel a very painful hangover. Agreed?
These are two extremes, but they prove this point: Your body feels a 'hangover' because of the processes it goes through when you consume alcohol. The things you do before/during/after drinking have an effect on this. The amount you drink has an effect, as does the way in which you drink it. So if your body is hit with a huge amount of alcohol at once (for example, pounding down a bunch of shots and then drinking a few beers rapidly) you're going to feel very drunk, and you're also probably going to feel a giant hangover in the morning.
Water and the amount of alcohol / time ratio, and food consumed, are the most important factors here, but there are other things that play into this, as well. And I've found from my personal experience and some basic knowledge of cogeners and alcohol quality that cheap beer is rougher on your body than quality beer, for the most part. There are exceptions.
But I think where the "beer before liquor" stuff comes from is the fact that the speed at which you consume alcohol has a very direct effect on how you feel afterward.
If you drink one beer per hour over a 10-hour long period, you will probably not feel much of a hangover, if any. If you drink 10 beer within one hour and then stop drinking, you will probably feel a very painful hangover. Agreed?
These are two extremes, but they prove this point: Your body feels a 'hangover' because of the processes it goes through when you consume alcohol. The things you do before/during/after drinking have an effect on this. The amount you drink has an effect, as does the way in which you drink it. So if your body is hit with a huge amount of alcohol at once (for example, pounding down a bunch of shots and then drinking a few beers rapidly) you're going to feel very drunk, and you're also probably going to feel a giant hangover in the morning.
Water and the amount of alcohol / time ratio, and food consumed, are the most important factors here, but there are other things that play into this, as well. And I've found from my personal experience and some basic knowledge of cogeners and alcohol quality that cheap beer is rougher on your body than quality beer, for the most part. There are exceptions.
It's the sleeping that causes hangovers... last night I came back after having 10+ pints feeling great, went to sleep and I've woken up feeling rotten!
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Water, no question as it's all about dehydration.
As for that "beer before liquor" stuff that keeps getting spouted time and time again. I will gladly continue to defy that as I always have 6-7 pints then switch to the shorts for the rest of the evening and I'm fine.
As for that "beer before liquor" stuff that keeps getting spouted time and time again. I will gladly continue to defy that as I always have 6-7 pints then switch to the shorts for the rest of the evening and I'm fine.
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