How do you know when you're ready to date again?

[SaigonK]

I would have no clue, I dont know if I want to date...I did meet up with someone and had a little roll in the hay, but it wasnt going anywhere and that was ok with me.
I keep thinking that if i dont get out there and date, i will be single and alone forever, but i am sure thats not true, just paranoia.

I would say you will feel ready soon, give it time to be ok for you not for everyone else. If you feel uncomfortable then chill and try again later. Dont let people hold the "you have kids" thing out there, thats just crap.

I have two daughters, they are everyhting to me, but that doesnt mean I should be alone for the rest of my life or until they are eighteen. That just doesnt make sense at all, you have to be happy or they will notice.

 

[Epoman]

Oh, and ignore Epoman. He's apparently of the mindset the woman's place is in the home and should obey her man. Wow

Why would you think I think a woman should OBEY a man? I never implied that.

Well actually you are totally wrong since I've been married for 11 happy years and my wife Works for the FBI (Actually on assignment right now), So I don't believe the womans place is in the home. I am just talking about putting your kids needs above your own what's so wrong with that? I believe a Single Mother or Father CAN go on dates and have fun with a companion but the parent should not engage in a sexual relationship. As it can cause emotional problems for the kid or kids.

DO YOU have any idea how many woman have several kids from different fathers?
DO YOU have any idea how many children are molested by a STEP-Parent?
DO YOU have any idea how many broken homes there are in the USA?

PUT YOUR KIDS NEEDS ABOVE YOUR OWN.

Here this will really piss you off.....

I also believe both parents should NOT work just 1, A mom or dad should be the Primary Care Giver for your child. The stay at home parent can goto work when the child starts school during the day.
Sooooooo many parents DUMP their babys at daycare now-a-days it sickening.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: Epoman
DO YOU have any idea how many woman have several kids from different fathers?
DO YOU have any idea how many children are molested by a STEP-Parent?
DO YOU have any idea how many broken homes there are in the USA?

how about some sources with numbers?

i agree with the fact that there is probably a high percentage of divorces in the U.S., however i've never heard of step-parent molestation being any more of a problem than natural-parent molestation.

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: Epoman
DO YOU have any idea how many woman have several kids from different fathers?
DO YOU have any idea how many children are molested by a STEP-Parent?
DO YOU have any idea how many broken homes there are in the USA?

how about some sources with numbers?

i agree with the fact that there is probably a high percentage of divorces in the U.S., however i've never heard of step-parent molestation being any more of a problem than natural-parent molestation.

I don't have numbers or sources, I was listening to the radio and they were talking about molesters and alot of cases involved a STEP.

Besides what does numbers matter? isn't 1 enough?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Epoman
Oh, and ignore Epoman. He's apparently of the mindset the woman's place is in the home and should obey her man. Wow

Why would you think I think a woman should OBEY a man? I never implied that.

Well actually you are totally wrong since I've been married for 11 happy years and my wife Works for the FBI (Actually on assignment right now), So I don't believe the womans place is in the home. I am just talking about putting your kids needs above your own what's so wrong with that? I believe a Single Mother or Father CAN go on dates and have fun with a companion but the parent should not engage in a sexual relationship. As it can cause emotional problems for the kid or kids.

DO YOU have any idea how many woman have several kids from different fathers?
DO YOU have any idea how many children are molested by a STEP-Parent?
DO YOU have any idea how many broken homes there are in the USA?

PUT YOUR KIDS NEEDS ABOVE YOUR OWN.

Here this will really piss you off.....

I also believe both parents should NOT work just 1, A mom or dad should be the Primary Care Giver for your child. The stay at home parent can goto work when the child starts school during the day.
Sooooooo many parents DUMP their babys at daycare now-a-days it sickening.

Ah...so the parents are inviting their children into the bed with them on these trysts?

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible...it's one or the other that has you living this myopic life.

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Oh, and another btw re:molestation:

http://www.stopchildmolestation.org/pages/study4.html

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Epoman
Oh, and ignore Epoman. He's apparently of the mindset the woman's place is in the home and should obey her man. Wow

Why would you think I think a woman should OBEY a man? I never implied that.

Well actually you are totally wrong since I've been married for 11 happy years and my wife Works for the FBI (Actually on assignment right now), So I don't believe the womans place is in the home. I am just talking about putting your kids needs above your own what's so wrong with that? I believe a Single Mother or Father CAN go on dates and have fun with a companion but the parent should not engage in a sexual relationship. As it can cause emotional problems for the kid or kids.

DO YOU have any idea how many woman have several kids from different fathers?
DO YOU have any idea how many children are molested by a STEP-Parent?
DO YOU have any idea how many broken homes there are in the USA?

PUT YOUR KIDS NEEDS ABOVE YOUR OWN.

Here this will really piss you off.....

I also believe both parents should NOT work just 1, A mom or dad should be the Primary Care Giver for your child. The stay at home parent can goto work when the child starts school during the day.
Sooooooo many parents DUMP their babys at daycare now-a-days it sickening.

Ah...so the parents are inviting their children into the bed with them on these trysts?

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible...it's one or the other that has you living this myopic life.

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Oh, and another btw re:molestation:

http://www.stopchildmolestation.org/pages/study4.html

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Good for you! But I didn't want to take the CHANCE my child would be molested, YOU took a chance on your childrens safety YOU Chose Money/Things over your childs safety. AND don't say it couldn't of happened (Maybe it DID but you don't know) There were only woman at the day care WELL WOMEN moleste girls too. By the way here's a link for YA!

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=day+care+molestations

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible

Its called having MORALS. And no I won't drop the Bible I have my beliefs and you nor anyone else can change them. I believe Children should be TOP PRIORITY over EVERYTHING. Maybe that's why my son is top of his class and is entering the Gifted program at his school, He is in 2nd grade and reading at a 5th grade level, and was citizen of the month TWICE in 1st grade. It might have to due with me being a stay at home dad and spending several hours a day teaching him things.

ALSO Daycare can NEVER replace the love of a parent. Sorry you both missed out.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: Epoman
I don't have numbers or sources, I was listening to the radio and they were talking about molesters and alot of cases

involved a STEP.

Besides what does numbers matter? isn't 1 enough?

please quit being a sensationalist.

are you sending your kids to public school? you're taking quite a risk there. isn't 1 enough?

do you drive your children in a car? you're risking killing your kids everyday. isn't 1 enough?

Originally posted by: Epoman
Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Good for you! But I didn't want to take the CHANCE my child would be molested, YOU took a chance on your childrens safety YOU

Chose Money/Things over your childs safety. AND don't say it couldn't of happened (Maybe it DID but you don't know) There

were only woman at the day care WELL WOMEN moleste girls too. By the way here's a link for YA!

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=<B">
navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=day+care+molestations">http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=day+care+molestations[/Q</a>

[/L]

while we're googling (daycare workers aren't the only one's molesting kids. parents have been known to do it to. "AND don't say it couldn't of happened (Maybe it DID but you don't know)" do you know what your wife does when you're not home? (how's that make you feel?)

btw, not everyone who puts their kids in daycare is being selfish.

Its called having MORALS. And no I won't drop the Bible I have my beliefs and you nor anyone else can change them. I believe Children should be TOP PRIORITY over EVERYTHING. Maybe that's why my son is top of his class and is entering the Gifted program at his school, He is in 2nd grade and reading at a 5th grade level, and was citizen of the month TWICE in 1st grade. It might have to due with me being a stay at home dad and spending several hours a day teaching him things.

ALSO Daycare can NEVER replace the love of a parent. Sorry you both missed out.

congrats on having a great kid.

please get off your high horse and realize that because a situation isn't like yours, it doesn't make it wrong.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Epoman
Oh, and ignore Epoman. He's apparently of the mindset the woman's place is in the home and should obey her man. Wow

Why would you think I think a woman should OBEY a man? I never implied that.

Well actually you are totally wrong since I've been married for 11 happy years and my wife Works for the FBI (Actually on assignment right now), So I don't believe the womans place is in the home. I am just talking about putting your kids needs above your own what's so wrong with that? I believe a Single Mother or Father CAN go on dates and have fun with a companion but the parent should not engage in a sexual relationship. As it can cause emotional problems for the kid or kids.

DO YOU have any idea how many woman have several kids from different fathers?
DO YOU have any idea how many children are molested by a STEP-Parent?
DO YOU have any idea how many broken homes there are in the USA?

PUT YOUR KIDS NEEDS ABOVE YOUR OWN.

Here this will really piss you off.....

I also believe both parents should NOT work just 1, A mom or dad should be the Primary Care Giver for your child. The stay at home parent can goto work when the child starts school during the day.
Sooooooo many parents DUMP their babys at daycare now-a-days it sickening.

Ah...so the parents are inviting their children into the bed with them on these trysts?

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible...it's one or the other that has you living this myopic life.

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Oh, and another btw re:molestation:

http://www.stopchildmolestation.org/pages/study4.html

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Good for you! But I didn't want to take the CHANCE my child would be molested, YOU took a chance on your childrens safety YOU Chose Money/Things over your childs safety. AND don't say it couldn't of happened (Maybe it DID but you don't know) There were only woman at the day care WELL WOMEN moleste girls too. By the way here's a link for YA!

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=day+care+molestations

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible

Its called having MORALS. And no I won't drop the Bible I have my beliefs and you nor anyone else can change them. I believe Children should be TOP PRIORITY over EVERYTHING. Maybe that's why my son is top of his class and is entering the Gifted program at his school, He is in 2nd grade and reading at a 5th grade level, and was citizen of the month TWICE in 1st grade. It might have to due with me being a stay at home dad and spending several hours a day teaching him things.

ALSO Daycare can NEVER replace the love of a parent. Sorry you both missed out.

Having your own beliefs is fine, outright stating that another member neglected his child by using daycare is over the line.


Hanging out in bar rooms, hooking up with one nighters isn't a good idea for anybody, but saying that divorced parents must live like they've entered the convent is ridiculous.

 

[ActuaryTm]

In returning to the original inquiry, would say it varies greatly with the individual and their particular situation. If it matters at all, was approximately a year after my first divorce that I began dating again. No children were involved in the marriage that ended in divorce (thankfully).

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: conjur
Ah...so the parents are inviting their children into the bed with them on these trysts?

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible...it's one or the other that has you living this myopic life.

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Oh, and another btw re:molestation:

http://www.stopchildmolestation.org/pages/study4.html

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Good for you! But I didn't want to take the CHANCE my child would be molested, YOU took a chance on your childrens safety YOU Chose Money/Things over your childs safety. AND don't say it couldn't of happened (Maybe it DID but you don't know) There were only woman at the day care WELL WOMEN moleste girls too. By the way here's a link for YA!

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=day+care+molestations

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible

Its called having MORALS. And no I won't drop the Bible I have my beliefs and you nor anyone else can change them. I believe Children should be TOP PRIORITY over EVERYTHING. Maybe that's why my son is top of his class and is entering the Gifted program at his school, He is in 2nd grade and reading at a 5th grade level, and was citizen of the month TWICE in 1st grade. It might have to due with me being a stay at home dad and spending several hours a day teaching him things.

ALSO Daycare can NEVER replace the love of a parent. Sorry you both missed out.

Actually, I pity your son.

You're obviously trying to raise a child as a perfectionist would want to do. I'd hazard your son will experience serious behavior issues come high school.

BTW, you never answered my question.

 

[silverpig]

When

need for man love > pain of divorce

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: conjur
Ah...so the parents are inviting their children into the bed with them on these trysts?

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible...it's one or the other that has you living this myopic life.

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Oh, and another btw re:molestation:

http://www.stopchildmolestation.org/pages/study4.html

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Good for you! But I didn't want to take the CHANCE my child would be molested, YOU took a chance on your childrens safety YOU Chose Money/Things over your childs safety. AND don't say it couldn't of happened (Maybe it DID but you don't know) There were only woman at the day care WELL WOMEN moleste girls too. By the way here's a link for YA!

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=day+care+molestations

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible

Its called having MORALS. And no I won't drop the Bible I have my beliefs and you nor anyone else can change them. I believe Children should be TOP PRIORITY over EVERYTHING. Maybe that's why my son is top of his class and is entering the Gifted program at his school, He is in 2nd grade and reading at a 5th grade level, and was citizen of the month TWICE in 1st grade. It might have to due with me being a stay at home dad and spending several hours a day teaching him things.

ALSO Daycare can NEVER replace the love of a parent. Sorry you both missed out.

Actually, I pity your son.

You're obviously trying to raise a child as a perfectionist would want to do. I'd hazard your son will experience serious behavior issues come high school.

BTW, you never answered my question.

Well hopefully he will turn out all right. BTW sorry what was your question?

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Epoman
Oh, and ignore Epoman. He's apparently of the mindset the woman's place is in the home and should obey her man. Wow

Why would you think I think a woman should OBEY a man? I never implied that.

Well actually you are totally wrong since I've been married for 11 happy years and my wife Works for the FBI (Actually on assignment right now), So I don't believe the womans place is in the home. I am just talking about putting your kids needs above your own what's so wrong with that? I believe a Single Mother or Father CAN go on dates and have fun with a companion but the parent should not engage in a sexual relationship. As it can cause emotional problems for the kid or kids.

DO YOU have any idea how many woman have several kids from different fathers?
DO YOU have any idea how many children are molested by a STEP-Parent?
DO YOU have any idea how many broken homes there are in the USA?

PUT YOUR KIDS NEEDS ABOVE YOUR OWN.

Here this will really piss you off.....

I also believe both parents should NOT work just 1, A mom or dad should be the Primary Care Giver for your child. The stay at home parent can goto work when the child starts school during the day.
Sooooooo many parents DUMP their babys at daycare now-a-days it sickening.

Ah...so the parents are inviting their children into the bed with them on these trysts?

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible...it's one or the other that has you living this myopic life.

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Oh, and another btw re:molestation:

http://www.stopchildmolestation.org/pages/study4.html

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Good for you! But I didn't want to take the CHANCE my child would be molested, YOU took a chance on your childrens safety YOU Chose Money/Things over your childs safety. AND don't say it couldn't of happened (Maybe it DID but you don't know) There were only woman at the day care WELL WOMEN moleste girls too. By the way here's a link for YA!

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=day+care+molestations

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible

Its called having MORALS. And no I won't drop the Bible I have my beliefs and you nor anyone else can change them. I believe Children should be TOP PRIORITY over EVERYTHING. Maybe that's why my son is top of his class and is entering the Gifted program at his school, He is in 2nd grade and reading at a 5th grade level, and was citizen of the month TWICE in 1st grade. It might have to due with me being a stay at home dad and spending several hours a day teaching him things.

ALSO Daycare can NEVER replace the love of a parent. Sorry you both missed out.

Having your own beliefs is fine, outright stating that another member neglected his child by using daycare is over the line.


Hanging out in bar rooms, hooking up with one nighters isn't a good idea for anybody, but saying that divorced parents must live like they've entered the convent is ridiculous.

Sorry to you and to conjur I never meant to imply that he Neglected his child I'm sure he is a great father. I was just stating that IMHO having a parent at home is better.

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: Epoman
I don't have numbers or sources, I was listening to the radio and they were talking about molesters and alot of cases

involved a STEP.

Besides what does numbers matter? isn't 1 enough?

please quit being a sensationalist.

are you sending your kids to public school? you're taking quite a risk there. isn't 1 enough?

do you drive your children in a car? you're risking killing your kids everyday. isn't 1 enough?

Originally posted by: Epoman
Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Good for you! But I didn't want to take the CHANCE my child would be molested, YOU took a chance on your childrens safety YOU

Chose Money/Things over your childs safety. AND don't say it couldn't of happened (Maybe it DID but you don't know) There

were only woman at the day care WELL WOMEN moleste girls too. By the way here's a link for YA!

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=<B">
navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=day+care+molestations">http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=day+care+molestations[/Q</a>

[/L]

while we're googling (daycare workers aren't the only one's molesting kids. parents have been known to do it to. "AND don't say it couldn't of happened (Maybe it DID but you don't know)" do you know what your wife does when you're not home? (how's that make you feel?)

btw, not everyone who puts their kids in daycare is being selfish.

Its called having MORALS. And no I won't drop the Bible I have my beliefs and you nor anyone else can change them. I believe Children should be TOP PRIORITY over EVERYTHING. Maybe that's why my son is top of his class and is entering the Gifted program at his school, He is in 2nd grade and reading at a 5th grade level, and was citizen of the month TWICE in 1st grade. It might have to due with me being a stay at home dad and spending several hours a day teaching him things.

ALSO Daycare can NEVER replace the love of a parent. Sorry you both missed out.

congrats on having a great kid.

please get off your high horse and realize that because a situation isn't like yours, it doesn't make it wrong.

Your right we take lots of risks in life, but we can choose not to take High risks. for example I feel it is stupid for a father who has kids to go skydiving, that is a HIGH risk that could be avoided.

As for my wife I don't believe she has ever molested my son, In fact I'm sure she has not. However if I ever found she has I would kill her in a heart beat as I would ANYONE who molests my child.

Luckily I am in a position that allows me to be a stay at home dad. However sometimes I envy men who goto work, But then I remember I am gratefull I get to be a stay at home dad.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: conjur
Ah...so the parents are inviting their children into the bed with them on these trysts?

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible...it's one or the other that has you living this myopic life.

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Oh, and another btw re:molestation:

http://www.stopchildmolestation.org/pages/study4.html

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Good for you! But I didn't want to take the CHANCE my child would be molested, YOU took a chance on your childrens safety YOU Chose Money/Things over your childs safety. AND don't say it couldn't of happened (Maybe it DID but you don't know) There were only woman at the day care WELL WOMEN moleste girls too. By the way here's a link for YA!

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=day+care+molestations

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible

Its called having MORALS. And no I won't drop the Bible I have my beliefs and you nor anyone else can change them. I believe Children should be TOP PRIORITY over EVERYTHING. Maybe that's why my son is top of his class and is entering the Gifted program at his school, He is in 2nd grade and reading at a 5th grade level, and was citizen of the month TWICE in 1st grade. It might have to due with me being a stay at home dad and spending several hours a day teaching him things.

ALSO Daycare can NEVER replace the love of a parent. Sorry you both missed out.

Actually, I pity your son.

You're obviously trying to raise a child as a perfectionist would want to do. I'd hazard your son will experience serious behavior issues come high school.

BTW, you never answered my question.

Well hopefully he will turn out all right. BTW sorry what was your question?

Read my post and therein you will find a question in response to a post of yours.

 

[SaturnX]

Its called having MORALS. And no I won't drop the Bible I have my beliefs and you nor anyone else can change them. I believe Children should be TOP PRIORITY over EVERYTHING. Maybe that's why my son is top of his class and is entering the Gifted program at his school, He is in 2nd grade and reading at a 5th grade level, and was citizen of the month TWICE in 1st grade. It might have to due with me being a stay at home dad and spending several hours a day teaching him things.

Get off your high horse, my parents split up when I was in the 2nd grade, and I was identified as a "gifted" child (a term which I truely feel is thrown around everywhere now), I had really crappy conditions growing up, broken family and such going through childhood.. but wait.. what's this, I went through the "gifted" program, and was in the top percentiles of my class, and again lie in the top 5% of my engineering class, so as it stands, you have extremely flawed logic, and you need to wake up and realize that one day your kid will eventually experience "the real world", and I hope you haven't spent all this time keeping him sheltered or he'll have a hard time adjusting.

--Mark

 

[Narse]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: conjur
Ah...so the parents are inviting their children into the bed with them on these trysts?

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible...it's one or the other that has you living this myopic life.

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Oh, and another btw re:molestation:

http://www.stopchildmolestation.org/pages/study4.html

Oh, and btw, I have two daughters that went thru daycare and they are doing wonderfully!

Good for you! But I didn't want to take the CHANCE my child would be molested, YOU took a chance on your childrens safety YOU Chose Money/Things over your childs safety. AND don't say it couldn't of happened (Maybe it DID but you don't know) There were only woman at the day care WELL WOMEN moleste girls too. By the way here's a link for YA!

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=day+care+molestations

Get out of the stone age or drop the Bible

Its called having MORALS. And no I won't drop the Bible I have my beliefs and you nor anyone else can change them. I believe Children should be TOP PRIORITY over EVERYTHING. Maybe that's why my son is top of his class and is entering the Gifted program at his school, He is in 2nd grade and reading at a 5th grade level, and was citizen of the month TWICE in 1st grade. It might have to due with me being a stay at home dad and spending several hours a day teaching him things.

ALSO Daycare can NEVER replace the love of a parent. Sorry you both missed out.

Actually, I pity your son.

You're obviously trying to raise a child as a perfectionist would want to do. I'd hazard your son will experience serious behavior issues come high school.

BTW, you never answered my question.

Well hopefully he will turn out all right. BTW sorry what was your question?

Read my post and therein you will find a question in response to a post of yours.

My Aunt was like you, her kids were perfect until High School, and all her christian teachings and sheltering caught up with her. Both of her Daughters droped out of school, they were "gifted" also BTW and got pregnant before they were 17. I'm sory children will learn pain one way or another, be it divorce, death etc. You need to step down off your high horse.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Narse

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Epoman
Well hopefully he will turn out all right. BTW sorry what was your question?

Read my post and therein you will find a question in response to a post of yours.

My Aunt was like you, her kids were perfect until High School, and all her christian teachings and sheltering caught up with her. Both of her Daughters droped out of school, they were "gifted" also BTW and got pregnant before they were 17. I'm sory children will learn pain one way or another, be it divorce, death etc. You need to step down off your high horse.

Hey, I agree with ya!

A good friend of my daughter was raised in an overly strict Christian household. She rebeled as teenagers will do and ended up involved with drugs and was pregnany and dropping out of school before she turned 16.

Sad.


Oh well...I guess this is hijacking this thread so I'll bow out of this digression.