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How do I motivate my little brother?

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Get him a job at McDonald's, or as a janitor at Wal-Mart. Drive him there every day and pick him up, make sure he isn't late, doesn't miss a day, doesn't skip out. Start volunteering together at a soup kitchen as well. Visit a prison, if you can.

After a few weeks of both activities, take him out for dinner to a really nice restaurant. Ask him to observe the difference he's seen in lifestyles at the soup kitchen, at his low-wage job, and what he sees around him at the restaurant. Talk him through how his choices now, his application of effort now, will lead him down different paths, and that he has a lot of control over where he goes.

Remind him that your family cares a lot about him and that, while he's starting to grow up and make some of his own choices and have some responsibility over himself, he's still under the authority of his parents and that they will continue to enforce his good behavior in school and out of it until he is old enough to be on his own. Point out that he should be mature enough to make the right choices simply because he wants his long term life to be good, but that if short-term negative consequences are the only way he keeps on the straight and narrow, that's what will happen.

Hope he gets the message but make sure your parents are willing to dish out some heavy short-term negative consequences if his JD behavior continues.

[edit] If he seriously doesn't give a shit and is constantly acting like a badass, check on who he's hanging out with. If he's getting recognition and praise from his peers because of his behavior, messages from home aren't going to do much to change him. You may need to put some enforcement in his choice of company.
 
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
A good old fashioned ass kicking sounds like what he needs.

But that is just my opinion.

Probably a good idea actually. Sounds like he's maybe missing some discipline since dad's not around.

Maybe a bit old for that don't you think? I know what used to happen if people tried to 'discipline' me when I was 15...

That's why its an ass kicking.
 
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
A good old fashioned ass kicking sounds like what he needs.

But that is just my opinion.

Probably a good idea actually. Sounds like he's maybe missing some discipline since dad's not around.

Maybe a bit old for that don't you think? I know what used to happen if people tried to 'discipline' me when I was 15...

That's why its an ass kicking.

The problem with physical punishment is that if he goes to school with any marks in this day and age a teacher will report it and my parents will get screwed. I actually think that's part of the problem as I was smacked around as a kid when I deserved it and I learned a lot quicker to think twice about dumb decisions.
 
Originally posted by: gorcorps
The problem with physical punishment is that if he goes to school with any marks in this day and age a teacher will report it and my parents will get screwed.

Yea *thats* the problem with physical punishment :disgust:

Is that also the problem with beating your wife?
 
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: gorcorps
The problem with physical punishment is that if he goes to school with any marks in this day and age a teacher will report it and my parents will get screwed.

Yea *thats* the problem with physical punishment :disgust:

Fuck man, it works for a lot of people okay? You don't have to injure your kid, but a spanking or a smack on his smart ass mouth would definitely make him think twice next time he wanted to smart off. That's the biggest difference I see with his vs. my upbringing so that's what I'm sticking with.
 
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: gorcorps
The problem with physical punishment is that if he goes to school with any marks in this day and age a teacher will report it and my parents will get screwed.

Yea *thats* the problem with physical punishment :disgust:

Fuck man, it works for a lot of people okay? You don't have to injure your kid, but a spanking or a smack on his smart ass mouth would definitely make him think twice next time he wanted to smart off. That's the biggest difference I see with his vs. my upbringing so that's what I'm sticking with.

I dunno man. I have a real problem with men who hit women or children... but a 15 year old is borderline I guess... around here people get robbed at knife/gunpoint by people younger than that.
 
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It sounds like your dad needs to give him a good scolding. That always put my brother and I into line - no physical violence required, just a convincing display of intimidation.

I agree except I'd recommend physical violence.
 
Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Originally posted by: gorcorps
My entire family is at a complete loss on what to do. I'm the oldest of 3 kids with a sister younger than me and we've both been pretty good kids. Did well in school, didn't get in too much trouble (normal stuff most kids go through) but my little brother seems to be a lost cause. He's been caught stealing 3 times now, with a suspension from school for the last one for taking some kids ipod.

He just started high school and his grades are slipping for the dumbest reasons. He forgets to turn shit in and just plain doesn't do certain assignments. It's mind boggling why he doesn't turn things in, as he does do most of his work.

My parents aren't separated, my mom still is involved with school and constantly checks with his teachers to see where he is in the class. I honestly can't figure out what's different about his upbringing that he would turn out so bad.

What as an older brother can I do here? I honestly have no clue? My mom is in tears after seeing his grades and how little he cares, and we can't figure out why he doesn't give a shit.

let him live his one life jeez. grades aren't all that important

Yea, then the rest of us tax payers will just support him for the rest of his life. Its too bad high school is usually the spring board to college that won't work if he doesn't get at least decent grades.

How will your parents get in trouble if you're the one that does the ass-kicking? Not really child abuse.
 
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: gorcorps
The problem with physical punishment is that if he goes to school with any marks in this day and age a teacher will report it and my parents will get screwed.

Yea *thats* the problem with physical punishment :disgust:

Fuck man, it works for a lot of people okay? You don't have to injure your kid, but a spanking or a smack on his smart ass mouth would definitely make him think twice next time he wanted to smart off. That's the biggest difference I see with his vs. my upbringing so that's what I'm sticking with.

I dunno man. I have a real problem with men who hit women or children... but a 15 year old is borderline I guess... around here people get robbed at knife/gunpoint by people younger than that.

Do you honestly think punishing your children is the same as being an asshole and beating your wife? It's completely different. Fuckers who beat their wives enjoy inflicting pain on somebody else, but GOOD parents NEVER enjoy hitting their kids. Unfortunately it's sometimes necessary when your words and other punishments have meant nothing.
 
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: gorcorps
The problem with physical punishment is that if he goes to school with any marks in this day and age a teacher will report it and my parents will get screwed.

Yea *thats* the problem with physical punishment :disgust:

Fuck man, it works for a lot of people okay? You don't have to injure your kid, but a spanking or a smack on his smart ass mouth would definitely make him think twice next time he wanted to smart off. That's the biggest difference I see with his vs. my upbringing so that's what I'm sticking with.

I dunno man. I have a real problem with men who hit women or children... but a 15 year old is borderline I guess... around here people get robbed at knife/gunpoint by people younger than that.

Do you honestly think punishing your children is the same as being an asshole and beating your wife? It's completely different. Fuckers who beat their wives enjoy inflicting pain on somebody else, but GOOD parents NEVER enjoy hitting their kids. Unfortunately it's sometimes necessary when your words and other punishments have meant nothing.

yeah... a smack on the ass/hand/etc is not the same and a fist to the face. Amazing how people think spanking a bratty child is "abuse". Idiots.
 
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
A good old fashioned ass kicking sounds like what he needs.

But that is just my opinion.

Probably a good idea actually. Sounds like he's maybe missing some discipline since dad's not around.

Maybe a bit old for that don't you think? I know what used to happen if people tried to 'discipline' me when I was 15...

That's why its an ass kicking.

The problem with physical punishment is that if he goes to school with any marks in this day and age a teacher will report it and my parents will get screwed. I actually think that's part of the problem as I was smacked around as a kid when I deserved it and I learned a lot quicker to think twice about dumb decisions.

Mm it's sad indeed. The pussification of America blows.
 
High school kids act like prisoners because high school is prison...it's a place teens are stuck for 8 hours a day so adults can get shit done.

Think about this: What would've gotten your high school teachers in more trouble:

A) They just stop teaching, and everyone sits in the room staring at the ceiling.
B) They let you take your coursework and roam the halls.

High school in the United States is not about education, which is why the public school systems are so horrible at it.


Edit: If you want an actual solution, make him get a job and start paying for his own shit, room, board, groceries, etc. See how he likes it.
 
Originally posted by: mb
Maybe he's depressed?


I doubt it. I've seen true cases of clinical depression and it's easy to spot. Very easy. A lot of the teens/young adults I see wandering around that are supposedly "depressed" or "have an anxiety disorder" just need to suck it up and realize their parents will not be there to solve their problems for them their entire life.

 
Let him crash and burn, make him repeat a grade, that turned someone around in my highschool. If he drops out, kick his ass to the curb and let him see how 'easy' it is to make money. Just hope he doesn't impregnate someone during this period.
 
Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Originally posted by: gorcorps
My entire family is at a complete loss on what to do. I'm the oldest of 3 kids with a sister younger than me and we've both been pretty good kids. Did well in school, didn't get in too much trouble (normal stuff most kids go through) but my little brother seems to be a lost cause. He's been caught stealing 3 times now, with a suspension from school for the last one for taking some kids ipod.

He just started high school and his grades are slipping for the dumbest reasons. He forgets to turn shit in and just plain doesn't do certain assignments. It's mind boggling why he doesn't turn things in, as he does do most of his work.

My parents aren't separated, my mom still is involved with school and constantly checks with his teachers to see where he is in the class. I honestly can't figure out what's different about his upbringing that he would turn out so bad.

What as an older brother can I do here? I honestly have no clue? My mom is in tears after seeing his grades and how little he cares, and we can't figure out why he doesn't give a shit.

let him live his one life jeez. grades aren't all that important

I totally agree with the grade part, but the stealing is obviously something more serious that calls for immediate attention.
 
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Originally posted by: gorcorps
My entire family is at a complete loss on what to do. I'm the oldest of 3 kids with a sister younger than me and we've both been pretty good kids. Did well in school, didn't get in too much trouble (normal stuff most kids go through) but my little brother seems to be a lost cause. He's been caught stealing 3 times now, with a suspension from school for the last one for taking some kids ipod.

He just started high school and his grades are slipping for the dumbest reasons. He forgets to turn shit in and just plain doesn't do certain assignments. It's mind boggling why he doesn't turn things in, as he does do most of his work.

My parents aren't separated, my mom still is involved with school and constantly checks with his teachers to see where he is in the class. I honestly can't figure out what's different about his upbringing that he would turn out so bad.

What as an older brother can I do here? I honestly have no clue? My mom is in tears after seeing his grades and how little he cares, and we can't figure out why he doesn't give a shit.

let him live his one life jeez. grades aren't all that important

I totally agree with the grade part, but the stealing is obviously something more serious that calls for immediate attention.

my bad 😱 didn't read the stealing bit. that's definately something that needs to be addressed.
 
my youngest brother, now 19, is a lazy motherfucker. my parents let him "home school" high school, but ignored him and he never did anything. They bitched about it....but never DID a thing.

he got his GED when he was 18 and started community college, where he got a 1.8 GPA his first semester. they pay for almost everything for him, because he barely works. i told them they should kick him out on his ass.

i say they ought to take away any privilege your brother has and make him earn them back.
 
Originally posted by: gorcorps
My entire family is at a complete loss on what to do. I'm the oldest of 3 kids with a sister younger than me and we've both been pretty good kids. Did well in school, didn't get in too much trouble (normal stuff most kids go through) but my little brother seems to be a lost cause. He's been caught stealing 3 times now, with a suspension from school for the last one for taking some kids ipod.

He just started high school and his grades are slipping for the dumbest reasons. He forgets to turn shit in and just plain doesn't do certain assignments. It's mind boggling why he doesn't turn things in, as he does do most of his work.

My parents aren't separated, my mom still is involved with school and constantly checks with his teachers to see where he is in the class. I honestly can't figure out what's different about his upbringing that he would turn out so bad.

What as an older brother can I do here? I honestly have no clue? My mom is in tears after seeing his grades and how little he cares, and we can't figure out why he doesn't give a shit.

Try being A friend and not a bother. Your brother sounds spirited a good thing. Now he just needs guidance . Find out what his greatest interest is, Than for a Time make that your greatest interest . Brother.

 
sounds like he is pretty smart. High school is useless. GED + community college = you can go to any school you want
 
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