How did Pelosi get where she is?

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: Tom
that doesnt explain her being Speaker. she is Speaker because she's effective, which is also why she's a target of the opposition.
btw, California is by far the most successful capitalist state in the country.

I can't find any evidence that either Speaker Pelosi or Senator Reid are particularly effective leaders. Can you point out all the major Democratic policy initiatives they have passed?

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
The fact that she got elected and gets re-elected each time speaks volumes about the morons that are her consituents. The fact that she became the speaker of the house speaks volumes about the morons that comprise the general electorate.

The fact that she remains Speaker speaks volumes about the Sheep that comprise the Democratic House Caucus. The Electorate has no say whatever in the selection of the Speaker beyond establishing a majority party in the House of Representatives.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
As a person who is constantly on especially potent meds I can see Pelosi is saturated in them. She's not even fully aware of what she is doing. One of her "strengths" is that she is such a mad hatter that she is painful to deal with (creates brain pain) and people leave her alone. If you watched her when it was found out she knew about CIA and enhanced interrogation you saw how she blamed eveyone else and then just refused to talk about the issue anymore and scolded anyone bringing it up. She's a Stepford Rep and quite dangerous despite being a looney toon.

Edited for veracity.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: bob4432
how in the world did pelosi get where she is currently

A taxpayer funded Gulfstream 550?

As number two in line for the Presidency the Speaker of the House must ride in military aircraft to and fro...
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Thank you Lunar Ray for debunking another myth, a speaker of the house that comes from East may need only a puddle jumper of a plane, but a more distant speaker of the house needs something better. Since we can't partisan predict or select a speaker of the house by distance from Washington DC, its likely to cut both ways in the future.

If we think California is bad, wait until some future speaker of the house comes from Alaska or Hawaii.

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
The fact that she got elected and gets re-elected each time speaks volumes about the morons that are her consituents. The fact that she became the speaker of the house speaks volumes about the morons that comprise the general electorate.

The fact that you would insult the general electorate speaks to the fact that you are a moron. Pelosi was elected to congress by the people in her district, she was elected speaker by the Congress, not the general electorate.

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: irwincur

opposing the privatization of Social Security

Good? You mean kicking the can down the road and ignoring the impending cliff that it is about to fall off of...

Great work.

She is a worthless bitch who only gets elected because she is from the great, broke, welfare pimping, illegal infested, liberal socialist experiment gone wrong, California.

Where do guys get this myth of the great liberal socialist experiment in California?

We have a Republican governor and Supreme Court, and have had Republican Governors for most of the last 30 years. It's more like a Republican economic experiment.

What, you don't have illegals in your state? If not, they're coming soon.

We gave you guys your heroes, Ronald Reagan and Dick Nixon, what more do you want?

Broke? All of the rich liberals here could probably buy and sell your state.

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: quest55720

Originally posted by: stateofbeasley

Originally posted by: RedChief

Originally posted by: sandorski
Incorrect. Where do SS Surpluses go? Answer: To Government coffers in exchange for IOUs. When SS comes asking for their $$, how will Government Pay? Budgetary Surpluses were going to pay, but they no longer exist.

Your acting like the fed budget is different then social security.

Of course there were plans put forward which would use the current surplus to set up individual retirement accounts. Of course liberals in congress blocked it because any change to social security is heresy.

Lets get one thing straight: privatization of Social Security would have benefited one interest group: mutual fund companies. These are the largely the same people who advocate these shit 401(k) plans that rape you with high expense ratios.

It would benifit me since I might of actually seen some of the money I have paid in. I would rather have half instead of the nothing I will see thanks to this corrupt government spending to much money. Give me my money back and I would be happy as hell.

You would be screaming like a bitch because half of your retirement would be gone.
Have you got any other great ideas? Maybe mortgage your house and buy another house hoping to flip it?

 

[piasabird]

Pelosi's family is rich because they survive off of slave labor from immigrants.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Pelosi's family is rich because they survive off of slave labor from immigrants.

you have links? i know some rich people, but the senate/congress is for the extreme wealthy, at least those in power

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Pelosi's family is rich because they survive off of slave labor from immigrants.

Links? Or are you are just lying again? I think her husband made a fortune in real estate.

Oh yeah, I forgot, only righties are supposed to be rich, liberals are supposed to live in the projects.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: piasabird
Pelosi's family is rich because they survive off of slave labor from immigrants.

Links? Or are you are just lying again? I think her husband made a fortune in real estate.

Oh yeah, I forgot, only righties are supposed to be rich, liberals are supposed to live in the projects.

yes, please post links - like this on feinstein:

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...husband-cashes-crisis/
http://washingtontimes.com/new...m-cashes-in-on-crisis/
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/...003/04/22/MN310531.DTL
http://directorblue.blogspot.c...eins-husband-hits.html
http://www.metroactive.com/feinstein/
http://www.antiwar.com/frank/?articleid=8609

this one is a bit gory - http://www.indybay.org/newsite...009/05/14/18594789.php

i think i got the left and right in there pretty good and then some - you CA people need to wake up, now lets see what you can dig up on pelosi

somebody needs to make a website that just lists all this shit from both sides...i'd do it myself but figure they would put me away in a room and throw away the room :shocked:

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: glenn1
Nancy Pelosi has done a number of good things, opposing the privatization of Social Security and the Iraq war being quite good for America.

Actually accomplishing opposing the Iraq war would have been quite good for America, but at least from what I saw she made an absurdly half-assed effort. As for privatization of Social Security and the other issues you mentioned; sure, she shills for the side working to concentrate wealth though government control rather than around it, but she is still a crony for the powers that be.

Originally posted by: glenn1
She has been elected with 75% of the vote, so your chances of getting rid of her anytime soon are between slim and none.

No one here will, but if she stepped on the wrong toes the bulk of her campaign funders would turn against her, and do whatever else it takes to replace her with a new shill.

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
The fact that she got elected and gets re-elected each time speaks volumes about the morons that are her consituents. The fact that she became the speaker of the house speaks volumes about the morons that comprise the general electorate.

The fact that she remains Speaker speaks volumes about the Sheep that comprise the Democratic House Caucus. The Electorate has no say whatever in the selection of the Speaker beyond establishing a majority party in the House of Representatives.

The electorate does, but indirectly. If the electorate didn't want a radical loon as the speaker, they would make sure their elected officials didn't put Pelosi in as the speaker. Yet there she is.....

Originally posted by: marincounty

The fact that you would insult the general electorate speaks to the fact that you are a moron. Pelosi was elected to congress by the people in her district, she was elected speaker by the Congress, not the general electorate.

Indeed, she was elected speaker by members of congress, who are representing... you guessed it, the general electorate. In other words, they represent the will of the electorate. If a loon becomes speaker, it reflects on both the members of congress and the electorate.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Indeed, she was elected speaker by members of congress, who are representing... you guessed it, the general electorate. In other words, they represent the will of the electorate..

They mostly represent the will of the special interest groups who stuff their pockets and fund their campaigns to drag the electorate along for the ride.

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
If a loon becomes speaker, it reflects on both the members of congress and the electorate.

I do have to agree with you here.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
The fact that she got elected and gets re-elected each time speaks volumes about the morons that are her consituents. The fact that she became the speaker of the house speaks volumes about the morons that comprise the general electorate.

The fact that she remains Speaker speaks volumes about the Sheep that comprise the Democratic House Caucus. The Electorate has no say whatever in the selection of the Speaker beyond establishing a majority party in the House of Representatives.

The electorate does, but indirectly. If the electorate didn't want a radical loon as the speaker, they would make sure their elected officials didn't put Pelosi in as the speaker. Yet there she is.....

Originally posted by: marincounty

The fact that you would insult the general electorate speaks to the fact that you are a moron. Pelosi was elected to congress by the people in her district, she was elected speaker by the Congress, not the general electorate.

Indeed, she was elected speaker by members of congress, who are representing... you guessed it, the general electorate. In other words, they represent the will of the electorate. If a loon becomes speaker, it reflects on both the members of congress and the electorate.

yes, but she isn't a loon. or a crony, shill, bitch, or any of those other things she's being called. she's a succesful business owner and a successful politician, both things are admirable accomplishments.

 

[Drako]

Originally posted by: Tom

yes, but she is a loon, a crony, shill, bitch, all of those other things she's being called. her husband is a succesful business owner and a successful politician, none of these things are admirable accomplishments.

Fixed it for you .

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Tom
yes, but she isn't a loon. or a crony, shill, bitch, or any of those other things she's being called.

Not rightly a loon or a bitch, and crony isn't quite fitting either, but I've yet to see a decent argument against shill.

Originally posted by: Tom
she's a succesful business owner and a successful politician, both things are admirable accomplishments.

It would be hard not to be a succesful business owner and a successful politician with friends like these.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: Drako

Originally posted by: Tom
yes, but she is a loon, a crony, shill, bitch, all of those other things she's being called. her husband is a succesful business owner and a successful politician, none of these things are admirable accomplishments.

Fixed it for you .

Because everyone knows wives have absolutely nothing to do with a husband's success, right?

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: bob4432
how in the world did pelosi get where she is currently

A taxpayer funded Gulfstream 550?

As number two in line for the Presidency the Speaker of the House must ride in military aircraft to and fro...

Huh? I believe the military flies cargo across the country every day. Just throw her in the back of a C130....But I guess we need our ruling class to have their Gulfstream jets....

 

[Drako]

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: Drako

Originally posted by: Tom
yes, but she is a loon, a crony, shill, bitch, all of those other things she's being called. her husband is a succesful business owner and a successful politician, none of these things are admirable accomplishments.

Fixed it for you .

Because everyone knows wives have absolutely nothing to do with a husband's success, right?

It is well known that she had nothing to do with Pual Pelosi's business. Paul Pelosi was a multi millionaire before hooking up with Nancy. So yeah, I would say that Nancy had absolutely nothing to do with Pauls business success.

Without Pual's money, Nancy would not have been able to buy her way into politics.

 

[Lemon law]

Rather than complain about Pelosi, maybe you GOP fan clubbers should worry about electing a GOP dominated house and then Pelosi would be as irrelevant as Boehner is now.

But before the GOP peanut gallery can really get at replacing Pelosi, you are going to have to figure out why the GOP lost its house and Senate majority in 11/2006. And as bat shit delusional as the GOP peanut gallery and GOP leadership is now, you better get your stuff together by 11/2010, or the GOP will be total history as a national party.

Insulting Pelosi will not get the job done or feed a single GOP bulldog.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: bob4432
how in the world did pelosi get where she is currently

A taxpayer funded Gulfstream 550?

As number two in line for the Presidency the Speaker of the House must ride in military aircraft to and fro...

Huh? I believe the military flies cargo across the country every day. Just throw her in the back of a C130....But I guess we need our ruling class to have their Gulfstream jets....

Well... the Sergeant at Arms of the House is charged with the security aspects of members... He decided that, consistent with the post 9/11 presidential mandate,... the Speaker had to have non stop, secure travel IF available... The prior Speaker could travel non stop in the smaller aircraft but the current one could do so only on certain days and not during the winter using that aircraft or similar because of head winds... So a bigger or at least a plane that could transit non stop was in order... Air force 3 became the story :laugh:
Also, the Secret Service (or the boss of that clan) can elect to provide security under the '' ... and other members of the presidential succession..." But, most if not all security is confidential..
I have no problem with her having a nice aircraft to flit about in... creates employment etc...

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Rather than complain about Pelosi, maybe you GOP fan clubbers should worry about electing a GOP dominated house and then Pelosi would be as irrelevant as Boehner is now.

But before the GOP peanut gallery can really get at replacing Pelosi, you are going to have to figure out why the GOP lost its house and Senate majority in 11/2006. And as bat shit delusional as the GOP peanut gallery and GOP leadership is now, you better get your stuff together by 11/2010, or the GOP will be total history as a national party.

Insulting Pelosi will not get the job done or feed a single GOP bulldog.

well, the dems seem to be taking care of this part themselves, much like the repubs did before 06. but, wait, when is acorn taking over doing the census???

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Well... the Sergeant at Arms of the House is charged with the security aspects of members... He decided that, consistent with the post 9/11 presidential mandate,... the Speaker had to have non stop, secure travel IF available... The prior Speaker could travel non stop in the smaller aircraft but the current one could do so only on certain days and not during the winter using that aircraft or similar because of head winds... So a bigger or at least a plane that could transit non stop was in order... Air force 3 became the story :laugh:
Also, the Secret Service (or the boss of that clan) can elect to provide security under the '' ... and other members of the presidential succession..." But, most if not all security is confidential..
I have no problem with her having a nice aircraft to flit about in... creates employment etc...

Link?

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Well... the Sergeant at Arms of the House is charged with the security aspects of members... He decided that, consistent with the post 9/11 presidential mandate,... the Speaker had to have non stop, secure travel IF available... The prior Speaker could travel non stop in the smaller aircraft but the current one could do so only on certain days and not during the winter using that aircraft or similar because of head winds... So a bigger or at least a plane that could transit non stop was in order... Air force 3 became the story :laugh:
Also, the Secret Service (or the boss of that clan) can elect to provide security under the '' ... and other members of the presidential succession..." But, most if not all security is confidential..
I have no problem with her having a nice aircraft to flit about in... creates employment etc...

Link?

I thought that was common knowledge... I'll look up, I guess..

?I regret that an issue that is exclusively considered and decided in a security context has evolved into a political issue,? Bill Livingood said in a news release. He said because Pelosi lives in California he was compelled ?to request an aircraft that is capable of making non-stop flights for security purposes, unless such an aircraft is unavailable. This will ensure communications capabilities and also enhance security.?LINK

The above deals with who wanted or ordered the jet to start with..

"The president, the vice president, (or other individuals next in order of succession to the Office of the President), the president-elect and vice president-elect ...Or others as designated by executive order... "SS LINK

That deals with the Secret Service Protection bit, I think.

Let's see... Oh.. the White House Authorization for the Defense Dept to supply aircraft for Speaker after 9/11... I'd think that is obvious given they do... I think the point is she wanted one that reached California non stop... IOW Air Force 3 type plane. As I recall it was actually started cuz of the closed airports on 9/11 and the then Speaker got a military ride at the request of Secret Service or they advised him to do so.. which required the White House to bless and as I recall Bush said it was his idea.. but he said, as I recall... I thought a 12 seat business jet... not Air Force One.. referring to Pelosi... heheheheheh


oops... thought I included this... "After 9/11, then-popular President Bush ordered that the speaker of the House, who is first in line to the presidency after the vice president, get secure government transportation. (BTW, did you know that West Virginia's doddering Robert Byrd is next in line after Pelosi, followed by the secretary of State, none other than Hillary Clinton?)" LINK