How did Apple succeed in Tablets (ie: iPad) when everyone else failed miserably?

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DaveSimmons

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1. Half the price of Windows tablets
2. 10 hour battery life vs. 2-3 for most Windows tablets
3. Less than half the weight of most Windows tablets
4. Just the tablet screen, while most Windows tablets were laptops where you have to open the laptop then twist the display around to cover the keyboard
5. Touch UI, while Windows tablets required a stylus and have UI elements like scroll bars that are hard to control with the stylus
6. iPhone app store already had 100,000+ apps designed for a touch UI when the iPad launched

This is one product where there is no "Apple tax", at launch it was cheaper than the competition and better in every way except for not being able to run Windows programs or Flash.
 

Nik

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Apple could serve feces on a cardboard square and their dumbass dipshit customers would flail their arms and fling piles of cash everywhere to buy it.
 

Numenorean

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Because they waited and watched. They waited until the technology actually existed that made tablets usable and then they made them and stole all the good ideas from everything else that tried to get into the market.

Also by having a bunch of sheep that buy their products. They mocked everything about tablets and said that tablets were junk until they made a tablet and suddenly the tablet was the most amazing computing device ever to have been invented by Apple....and all the sheeple bought them.

BTW, Android Tablet > Apple Tablet
 

deanx0r

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haters gonna hate
trolls gonna troll

Whenever Apple is mentioned, they can never win with good design and engineering, amirite?

Apple could serve feces on a cardboard square and their dumbass dipshit customers would flail their arms and fling piles of cash everywhere to buy it.
 
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The reason the iPod won:
1) Form factor - Everyone touted higher capacities, but so what? They were bricks. MP3 players were to be pocketable, especially the giant iPods in the beginning. The Creative Zen was like shoving a Canon Powershot G-series down your pants. You could do it, but then you'd have a... huge bulge? hah.

2) Usability - Seriously. Squircle, line scrolling, wheel like a wheel mouse... wow. That got nowhere. Circle touch scroll wheel was by far the easiest to control UI. There was kinetic scrolling and you could be precise.

3) Price didn't matter - Dell sold at $220 or whatever, and so did Creative. They offered 30 or 40gb when Apple offered 20gb @ $299.

Why the iPad won:

1) No real OS from Android - 2.2 was NOT a tablet OS.
2) Price - Surprisingly Apple won this time?
3) Usability - Android was not ready prime time back then. It's still getting there, and really finally made a leap with 3.0.
 

Nik

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Whenever Apple is mentioned, they can never win with good design and engineering, amirite?

Good design? It's a fucking iPod Touch with a bigger screen and it costs 3-4 times the price.

Don't get me started.

I own an iPod Touch because THAT is a good product. The iPad is proof that Apple customers are brainless, soulless husks with nothing better to do with their money than support a company that takes advantage of their customers.
 

shortylickens

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Hype and marketing are MUCH stronger than any other department at Apple.
We already had tablets years ago and no one liked them. Now that apple makes the freakin things people are punching each other in lines to get ahold of them.
 

dwell

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I own an iPod Touch because THAT is a good product. The iPad is proof that Apple customers are brainless, soulless husks with nothing better to do with their money than support a company that takes advantage of their customers.

All it takes is using GarageBand on the iPad to convince anyone why the platform is here to stay.
 

deanx0r

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Keep crying and whinning.
That's what you do best

Good design? It's a fucking iPod Touch with a bigger screen and it costs 3-4 times the price.

Don't get me started.

I own an iPod Touch because THAT is a good product. The iPad is proof that Apple customers are brainless, soulless husks with nothing better to do with their money than support a company that takes advantage of their customers.
 

Capt Caveman

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Good design? It's a fucking iPod Touch with a bigger screen and it costs 3-4 times the price.

Don't get me started.

I own an iPod Touch because THAT is a good product. The iPad is proof that Apple customers are brainless, soulless husks with nothing better to do with their money than support a company that takes advantage of their customers.

Don't get you started? You can't even start. Sure there are many similarities but which would you prefer to use for playing games, watching videos, remoting to other computers, reading books and magazines.

Then you have the number of commercial, educational and medical applications and uses for tablets....
 

shortylickens

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MY EPENIS IS BIGGER THAN YOUR EPENIS!!!

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Imp

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Apple brand, marketing, affordability , portable and functional design, and more marketing.

I have never been an Apple fan, yet I almost got an iPad 1. It's on all the TV shows, word of mouth and good publicity is strong as hell, and the CEO whores the thing out everywhere he goes.

Compare this to RIM and XOOM: you wouldn't know those things existed if you weren't a nerd. Three days from product release, I have yet to see a single Playbook ad, and I have a TV on 4+ hours a day on average (8+ hours on computer/internet). Xoom tried to make their pad so "futuristic", you couldn't figure out what they were selling.
 

dwell

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Xoom tried to make their pad so "futuristic", you couldn't figure out what they were selling.

And if you ever used one you can't figure out operate it. Seriously, the most fucked up user interface ever. It's like some cheesy Linux distro.
 

mesthead21

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Apple could serve feces on a cardboard square and their dumbass dipshit customers would flail their arms and fling piles of cash everywhere to buy it.

Good design? It's a fucking iPod Touch with a bigger screen and it costs 3-4 times the price.

Don't get me started.

I own an iPod Touch because THAT is a good product. The iPad is proof that Apple customers are brainless, soulless husks with nothing better to do with their money than support a company that takes advantage of their customers.


So are you one of those dumbass dipshit customers? Your responses to this thread are hilarous. You are bashing apple while owning an apple product that you yourself said is great.

I really like the part where you compare the price of an 8 gig ipod touch to a 16 gig iPad.

8 gig ipod touch = 229;
16 gig ipad = 500.

Yeah i guess that is 3-4 times the price :rolleyes:
 

Ns1

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Good design? It's a fucking iPod Touch with a bigger screen and it costs 3-4 times the price.

Don't get me started.

I own an iPod Touch because THAT is a good product. The iPad is proof that Apple customers are brainless, soulless husks with nothing better to do with their money than support a company that takes advantage of their customers.

It's like a 10" dick instead of a 4" dick. The extra real estate is surprisingly useful.
 

0roo0roo

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1. Half the price of Windows tablets
2. 10 hour battery life vs. 2-3 for most Windows tablets
3. Less than half the weight of most Windows tablets
4. Just the tablet screen, while most Windows tablets were laptops where you have to open the laptop then twist the display around to cover the keyboard
5. Touch UI, while Windows tablets required a stylus and have UI elements like scroll bars that are hard to control with the stylus
6. iPhone app store already had 100,000+ apps designed for a touch UI when the iPad launched

This is one product where there is no "Apple tax", at launch it was cheaper than the competition and better in every way except for not being able to run Windows programs or Flash.


yup and kiss.keep it simple stupid. other pc type companies would give you a bajillion features and multitasking and the rest, regardless if it was a good idea at the time. plenty of pc users get fixated on specs and bullet points, and catering for them made the pc tablets fail. and yea the iphone laid the ground work for the apps.
 

HAL9000

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1. Half the price of Windows tablets
2. 10 hour battery life vs. 2-3 for most Windows tablets
3. Less than half the weight of most Windows tablets
4. Just the tablet screen, while most Windows tablets were laptops where you have to open the laptop then twist the display around to cover the keyboard
5. Touch UI, while Windows tablets required a stylus and have UI elements like scroll bars that are hard to control with the stylus
6. iPhone app store already had 100,000+ apps designed for a touch UI when the iPad launched

This is one product where there is no "Apple tax", at launch it was cheaper than the competition and better in every way except for not being able to run Windows programs or Flash.

These

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TridenT

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Marketing. Right time. Shiny. It keeps things really simple. It already had a ton of applications ready to use on it. Apple did the hardware design and software.

That's the problem with many slates out there. They do not have everything in house and Apple already has such a dominate market place for applications.

I think the slates("tablets") will be like the netbooks though. A fad in technology and mostly used in specialized departments.
 

RbSX

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Because they came in and defined the tablet market, and made everyone play their game. Subsequently, the competition was never able to offer the same quality of product.

If someone else had come in and branded the market their way, perhaps the iPad wouldn't be having the same success.
 

RbSX

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Jan 18, 2002
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So are you one of those dumbass dipshit customers? Your responses to this thread are hilarous. You are bashing apple while owning an apple product that you yourself said is great.

I really like the part where you compare the price of an 8 gig ipod touch to a 16 gig iPad.

8 gig ipod touch = 229;
16 gig ipad = 500.

Yeah i guess that is 3-4 times the price :rolleyes:

Nik is a self loathing douche, everyone knows this.
 

NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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1. Half the price of Windows tablets
2. 10 hour battery life vs. 2-3 for most Windows tablets
3. Less than half the weight of most Windows tablets
4. Just the tablet screen, while most Windows tablets were laptops where you have to open the laptop then twist the display around to cover the keyboard
5. Touch UI, while Windows tablets required a stylus and have UI elements like scroll bars that are hard to control with the stylus
6. iPhone app store already had 100,000+ apps designed for a touch UI when the iPad launched

This is one product where there is no "Apple tax", at launch it was cheaper than the competition and better in every way except for not being able to run Windows programs or Flash.

Exactly. I'd have one if I didn't already have a sub-3-pound MacBook Air. I just don't see the need to have an iPad when I have a ultra-portable and an iPhone 4.
 

zerocool84

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And if you ever used one you can't figure out operate it. Seriously, the most fucked up user interface ever. It's like some cheesy Linux distro.

lulz yet every reviewer that's not Apple biased says Honeycomb is a million times better than iOS. They all say iOS needs an overhaul asap but whatever helps you sleep at night.