How can there be any doubt that we're at war with China?

[irishScott]

Americans are too fat and stupid to do anything about anything. If it takes more effort than turning on the TV or clicking a facebook link, forget about it.

I'm wondering if we need an adversary to truly excel. The last immediate threat to the US mainland was WWII, with the Cold War providing a constant sense of competition. Since then we've been sitting fat and happy.

We're like that Vietnam vet who survived the entire war, has 100 confirmed kills, comes home, gets fat and dies of a heart attack 4 years later.

 

[OverVolt]

Its like trying to get rid of a parasite.

 

[gevorg]

China is engaging in downright theft from U.S. companies. Stuxnet was not designed to steal intellectual property.. it was designed to slow down the Iranian nuclear program. Little bit of a difference there.

Regardless of the intent, it is still cyberwarfare and possibly act of war. Those are examples of capabilities, we have no idea of the real picture. I highly doubt that U.S. is "only" defending itself from China. I won't be surprised if all the top world powers are involved in some form of cyberwarfare with each other. Even Israel is spying on U.S.

 

[Texashiker]

you are truly delusional. China is in, and will not be in a, position to attack us for at least another 2 decades. They don't have anything to project power. Their airfarce is a joke. Their navy is a joke. Their army, while large, is a sitting duck when #1 and #2 are taken into account.

I will take your comments and raise you chinas nuclear arsenal.

While russia and the usa are working to reduce their number of nuclear weapons, china is increasing their stockpile.

As far as the US being "weak", you have no idea what you are talking about.

If you want to cripple a nations military power, all you have to do is destroy certain key components. One of those key components is wheel bearings, and other vehicle replacement parts. If we can not maintain our trucks, how are we supposed to fight a war?

Where are a lot of our wheel bearings made? China.

A few months ago I did a front end job on my wifes chevy Tahoe. I replaced the rotors, wheel bearings, brake disk pads, and brake calipers. Where were most of the parts made? China.

Computer parts, steel mills, clothes, motors, car parts, wheel bearings, engines,,,, all made overseas.

With just a couple of key military strikes, china could disable the USA. We have not built new power plants in 20 years. Parts of Texas have rolling blackouts during peak summer months. How are we supposed to power new factories when we can barley keep the lights on?

 

[sportage]

Lets see here...
Last week it was meteors coming to hit everyone.
Before then, that everyones computer was being hacked.
Then killer bees, the killer flu, identity theft.
This week, the chinks are comin.
Not to worry.
Next week its back to the killer bees...

 

[dawheat]

I will take your comments and raise you chinas nuclear arsenal.

While russia and the usa are working to reduce their number of nuclear weapons, china is increasing their stockpile.

Not disagreeing with you in general, but the US still has 5000 nuclear warheads. A single SSBN, completely impervious to Chinese attack thousands of miles away from the Chinese coast, could rain down 192 warheads on China and destroy every population center.

Economic war - yes. Conventional war - incredibly unlikely for decades since China would get its ass kicked. Nuclear war - no.

 

[Texashiker]

Not disagreeing with you in general, but the US still has 5000 nuclear warheads. A single SSBN, completely impervious to Chinese attack thousands of miles away from the Chinese coast, could rain down 192 warheads on China and destroy every population center.

Economic war - yes. Conventional war - incredibly unlikely for decades since China would get its ass kicked. Nuclear war - no.

In a war, conventional or nuclear, everyone loses.

China is probably working on an economic war against the US. After all, they recently surpassed the US as the worlds largest trade partner.

How much longer before wall street is no longer relevant, and/or moves to china?

 

[hal2kilo]

Hmm - Maybe Republicans should get on board with Obama on this issue (he talked about it in his SotU Address)...http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/t...der-better-protection-cyber-attacks-1C8349540

Oh great, you just killed that idea from happening.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

america is at war with the entire planet. just what is china or anyone else doing that the u.s. doing to other countries? you dont think we break into and sabotage other countries' networks? that we dont to economic spying? for some reason americans think that that sort of thing is good as long as were the ones doing it. get over it, america isnt special

 

[irishScott]

america is at war with the entire planet. just what is china or anyone else doing that the u.s. doing to other countries? you dont think we break into and sabotage other countries' networks? that we dont to economic spying? for some reason americans think that that sort of thing is good as long as were the ones doing it. get over it, america isnt special

Given that we're the sole superpower, America is actually quite special. The rest of the world just has an inferiority complex.

I'm sure we do a lot of dark stuff behind the scenes, but apparently we're quite good, as not much of it gets reported. You'd think if we were "at war with the entire planet" we would have heard some complaints by now.

 

[irishScott]

Not disagreeing with you in general, but the US still has 5000 nuclear warheads. A single SSBN, completely impervious to Chinese attack thousands of miles away from the Chinese coast, could rain down 192 warheads on China and destroy every population center.

Economic war - yes. Conventional war - incredibly unlikely for decades since China would get its ass kicked. Nuclear war - no.

What'll really be interesting is when someone comes up with an effective missile defense system that nullifies smaller ICBM arsenals. Given the pace of technology I'd be surprised if we don't figure it out in a decade or three.