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Lifer
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Dems and Obama have at least another year to prepare for the next primaries and by that time the economy is very likely to recover or potentially boom, with jobs lagging another 6-12 months depending on what data you look at and unforseen circumstances of course. In the end, there is basically no chance they make up any significant ground in 2010 and even less likely in 2012 until they find a believable candidate. Romney won't get it done for obvious reasons and Palin was an unmitigated, polarizing disaster so they shouldn't strive for that.
Lemon law
Lifer
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I cannot agree with Nightmare when he says, "The last decent president that the GOP put forward was a retired actor from California who had somewhat moderate views. When they tap Jeb Bush or a former minister to run in 2012 they will seal their own fate.
Ronald Reagan had the act same spend and borrow policies of GWB and was lucky enough to escape from office before the economy tanked with GHB.
Putting forth Ronald Reagan as a GOP role model is exactly why the GOP will remain out of it for a long time. But on the plus side, Ronald Reagan at least cared about Public opinion and did not start any quagmire wars. But Ronald Reagan lived in a fantasy world, and GWB&co lived a worse fantasy, while paying not a wit about the obvious bad results.
But of nothing else, GWB&co proved why Reagan was wrong on the economy, and until the GOP realizes that many of their initial theories were wrong, their is little hope that the GOP will gain any new appeal.
Ronald Reagan had the act same spend and borrow policies of GWB and was lucky enough to escape from office before the economy tanked with GHB.
Putting forth Ronald Reagan as a GOP role model is exactly why the GOP will remain out of it for a long time. But on the plus side, Ronald Reagan at least cared about Public opinion and did not start any quagmire wars. But Ronald Reagan lived in a fantasy world, and GWB&co lived a worse fantasy, while paying not a wit about the obvious bad results.
But of nothing else, GWB&co proved why Reagan was wrong on the economy, and until the GOP realizes that many of their initial theories were wrong, their is little hope that the GOP will gain any new appeal.
ProfJohn
Lifer
- Jul 28, 2006
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The article says that Americans believe in universal health INSURANCE not healthcare.
There is a HUGE difference.
Universal health insurance is private insurance with private doctors that you get to pick etc.
Universal healthcare is government run hospitals ala Canada and England.
Phokus
Lifer
- Nov 20, 1999
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No it's not
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_healthcare
http://www.healthpaconline.net...versal-health-care.htm
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-i...versal-health-care.htm
"Universal Healthcare" can encompass either universal health insurance or complete government run healthcare. I meant the former (i have NEVER advocated complete government run healthcare)
NonProfJohn.txt :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
We also outraged by his massive spending, his tripling of the deficit, his doubling of the national debt, his bailouts and takeover of private companies, etc. We're outraged that he's ramming stimulus spending down our throats that he doesn't allow debate on. We're outraged that unemployment keeps going up. We're outraged he's nominating a racist for the supreme court. We're outraged that he's bailing out people that had no business ever getting a mortgage while those of us who pay continue to get screwed. We're outraged he continues to bailout financial institutions that raise rates, lower limits, and add fees to people who pay their bills. We're outraged that he's doing nothing to investigate oil speculation that once again is driving up oil prices. We're outraged he can't seem to make a statement without blaming Bush. We're outraged he promised transparency and yet he continues to refuse to release documents that will prove or disprove torture claims. We're outraged he wants to socialize our healthcare and put it under the control of the same people who have gotten us into this financial mess.
Etc.. etc.. etc. But yet you don't bring up any of those topics. Why is that? You cherry pick the ones which are superficial while ignoring the ones that aren't We are outraged over a TON of things Obama is doing.. but the left simply claims the outrage is 'faux' and ignores all of them.
n yusef
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- Feb 20, 2005
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I know as well as anyone that there are racist Democrats and liberals.
That doesn't change the facts: the Republican party is a bunch of old white guys and a few beauty queens. Their image is not one of inclusiveness or diversity, and their policies reflect that. Any inroads the GOP makes with people of color on religious morality are destroyed by questioning the intelligence of the most academically successful Supreme Court nominee in recent times.
Republicans could have supported Sotomayor's nomination--she's no more liberal than Souter--but they chose not to. They could have respectfully and substantively attacked her, but they chose not to. Instead, they called her an affirmative action appointee and a "reverse racist". To see this as anything except a rejection of Latinos and women is to be Stevie Wonder wearing rose-colored glasses.
Sure, there are racist Democrats, but at least they have the decency to keep their racism to themselves.
ProfJohn
Lifer
- Jul 28, 2006
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Talk about being a tool...
Here is what Obama said about John Roberts
and later
So he admits that Roberts is qualified to sit on the court, but votes against him anyway due to personal and political reasons.
Why should the Republicans act any different than Obama did?
n yusef
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- Feb 20, 2005
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I see nothing wrong with Republicans voting against Sotomayor for political or ideological reasons. Reread my post:
Where they are messing up is in their attacks on her qualifications and intellect, calling her a racist and calling La Raza the equivalent of the KKK.
These attacks come from pundits, not elected officials, but these pundits are the vocal representatives of the Republican party. Their message is clear. Latinos are not welcome in the ideologically pure Republican party.
Where they are messing up is in their attacks on her qualifications and intellect, calling her a racist and calling La Raza the equivalent of the KKK.
These attacks come from pundits, not elected officials, but these pundits are the vocal representatives of the Republican party. Their message is clear. Latinos are not welcome in the ideologically pure Republican party.
Bush won 2 elections as well. I guess that means people voted and are in favor of torture and war.
ProfJohn
Lifer
- Jul 28, 2006
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Nope, but I think he did a good job of illustrating how stupid your train of thought was.
Check out the polls, Obama is FAR more popular than the policies he supports. His 60% approval rating is based on personal popularity, not on support for his ideas.
From a CNN poll taken in April
"As you may know, General Motors and Chrysler have received several billion dollars in government assistance to prevent them from going into bankruptcy. If those auto companies say they need more federal money, do you think the government should give them any additional assistance, or should the government let them go into bankruptcy?"
Give Additional Assistance 22%
Let Them Go Into Bankruptcy 76%
Not even close.
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