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It's not even a matter of "winning it all back." There needs to be checks and balances. One party is in absolute control right now, with no real opposition, and that is always a recipe for disaster.
you guys keep saying that, but every time there's someone on the ballot coming close to that description they get voted out.
RIP Northeastern Republicans
Yes, like the *disaster* of the FDR adminstration and the *disaster* of the JFK administration, previous times the Democrats had control of the Presidency and Congress (large majorities).
Most of the 'disasters' were led by Republican presidents; you could point out Vietnam except that Republicans were at least as in favor of the war as Democrats - and later than Dems.
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Why do you think Obama nominated Sotomayor?
Game over man, game over.
The whole sotomayor /hispanic vote thing is overblown.
Did appointing Gonzales in the Bush years matter? Did appointing Colin Powell or Clarence Thomas win the Black vote?
No one says....whoa they got a latino in office man, I'm voting Democrat.
They vote according to which parties snow job they believe.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
- Oct 17, 1999
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Gallop polling reports that
35% identify themselves as Democrats and 28% as Republicans.
Leaned Party Identification:
%Democrat\%Lean Democrat: 52%
%Republican\%Lean Republican: 39%
I was curious how this forum's breakdown compared to a national poll.
35% identify themselves as Democrats and 28% as Republicans.
Leaned Party Identification:
%Democrat\%Lean Democrat: 52%
%Republican\%Lean Republican: 39%
I was curious how this forum's breakdown compared to a national poll.
Nitemare
Lifer
- Feb 8, 2001
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Only way the GOP has a chance to win it back is if Obama becomes a worse president then Dubya. I doubt if he is even capable of that.
<---Libertarian and former republican
Most new voters and younger people are mostly democrats because the GOP is against what they feel...
They do not want the morality police in charge of the White House which is what the GOP has become...no stem cell research, no abortions, no legalizing mary jane and using Biblical teachings and guidance to make legislation is turning off an increasing agnostic and non-religious population.
The GOP used to have the small government and less spending in their favor and now they don't even have that. Combine that with the best they could do was a 72 y/o who had cancer to run for office isn't saying much.
The last decent president that the GOP put forward was a retired actor from California who had somewhat moderate views. When they tap Jeb Bush or a former minister to run in 2012 they will seal their own fate.
<---Libertarian and former republican
Most new voters and younger people are mostly democrats because the GOP is against what they feel...
They do not want the morality police in charge of the White House which is what the GOP has become...no stem cell research, no abortions, no legalizing mary jane and using Biblical teachings and guidance to make legislation is turning off an increasing agnostic and non-religious population.
The GOP used to have the small government and less spending in their favor and now they don't even have that. Combine that with the best they could do was a 72 y/o who had cancer to run for office isn't saying much.
The last decent president that the GOP put forward was a retired actor from California who had somewhat moderate views. When they tap Jeb Bush or a former minister to run in 2012 they will seal their own fate.
n yusef
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I think a lot of Latinos consider the attacks on Sotomayor's intelligence and qualifications to be racially motivated. And the claims of "reverse racism" are silly to everyone except conservative white guys.
I would love to see some polls before and after Sotomayor's nomination.
Red Dawn
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Keep whining about Obama taking his wife out to dinner, continue to call Justice Sotomyeor a racist, follow the running orders of Buddabaugh and the Grinch and generally continue to be sour pusses like they are now...Now wait, that's the recipe for their failure:thumbsup:
jonks
Lifer
- Feb 7, 2005
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2012 will be 4 years later than 2008.
4 more years of old voters dying, who tend to vote Republican, and in 2008 the 65+ crowd voted 53-45 for McCain, the only age demographic to go republican.
4 more years of young people reaching the voting age, who tend to vote democrat, and in 2008 the 18-29 crowed voted 66-32 for Obama.
Add in the reps continued opposition to gay marriage which further turns off the young, their 90% white make-up despite that group's shrinking electorate percentage, their currently headless political movement, their most vocal voices prominent hysterics, a youthful, charismatic and intelligent incumbent, and I think it's not looking good in 2012 for the Reps. Or 2016 for that matter. But who knows, it's politics and anything's possible.
4 more years of old voters dying, who tend to vote Republican, and in 2008 the 65+ crowd voted 53-45 for McCain, the only age demographic to go republican.
4 more years of young people reaching the voting age, who tend to vote democrat, and in 2008 the 18-29 crowed voted 66-32 for Obama.
Add in the reps continued opposition to gay marriage which further turns off the young, their 90% white make-up despite that group's shrinking electorate percentage, their currently headless political movement, their most vocal voices prominent hysterics, a youthful, charismatic and intelligent incumbent, and I think it's not looking good in 2012 for the Reps. Or 2016 for that matter. But who knows, it's politics and anything's possible.
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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Win it all back? Let the Democrats enact their own failure. The United States will be in ruins, but the opposition to that ruin will be in HUGE demand. Until the people see this failure in action, the Republicans will successfully be branded as the party of ?No?. No to handouts and that won?t work for them.
Step aside and admit defeat in this round. That is how you position yourself come back stronger later.
Step aside and admit defeat in this round. That is how you position yourself come back stronger later.
techs
Lifer
- Sep 26, 2000
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/truth
I actually heard a Republican Senator questioning whether Sotomayor could understand what America really was all about because of her background??
wtf? She was born in the Bronx!
I think the clear message was an Hispanic isn't like whites and is "different' from them.
You don't hear Senators saying that about a white person who was born in America.
The Republicans currently are caught in the numbers game. They absolutely need to keep every seat in the Senate, and hopefullly gain one to avoid complete irrelevancy. And so they have focused on the few seats they have, and they are in the most right wing/religious parts of the country. So they are concentrating on keeping those voters by moving as close to their views as possible. And by doing so are losing more and more support in the middle.
- Oct 17, 1999
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Going by history, the GOP could win the White House if the economy does not turn around by Dec 2011 and maybe if Mr Obama gets the country into a big mess like Mr Bush did with the Iraqi invasion.
It is early, 133 days into Mr Obama's presidency and the GOP is taliking about mustard, a NYC dinner and a show, etc sounding like desparate hypocrites. Is anyone but their base paying any attention to the GOP's almost daily expressions of outrage about everything Mr Obama does?
It is early, 133 days into Mr Obama's presidency and the GOP is taliking about mustard, a NYC dinner and a show, etc sounding like desparate hypocrites. Is anyone but their base paying any attention to the GOP's almost daily expressions of outrage about everything Mr Obama does?
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