how can ppl not like fight club

[0roo0roo]

and every time i walk into ikea i get reminded of that movie

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: Entity
The chief problem I had with the movie's conclusion, since no one has asked me , was that throughout the film, it seemed to be placing the fault of materialistic desires on the individual; then, in the conclusion, by destroying the banks, etc., it essentially shifted that blame from the individual to the system. The conclusion seemed inconsistent to the message of the rest of the film.

Otherwise it was entertaining, though.

Rob

That was exactly the same thing that I got out of it.

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and every time i walk into ikea i get reminded of that movie

You actually go into ikea? This is like the ass-vibrator store line on bash.org.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: KingNothing

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and every time i walk into ikea i get reminded of that movie

You actually go into ikea? This is like the ass-vibrator store line on bash.org.

??


its better then target or wallyworld i like going in and wondering what bookshelf defines me as a person

funny thing is i saw the movie before therer was even an ikea around in my area.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: Zebo
RE:how can ppl not like fight club

Originally posted by: WhiteKnight
I liked it, but I've noticed that a lot of people who really, really like it tend to be the type who embrace the whole non-conformist attitude. Ironically, most of these people are in fact more like non-conformist fan boys.

I'm pretty Non-conformist whitnight... But anyone who tells you they know the what it's all about, except a literary or film professor at USC, is full of shZIt....

And someone who argues against a movie they haven't even seen is an ignorant dipshit of biblical proportions.


Go see the film, read the book, or both, or just shut the f*ck up already.

Go to hell fausto. I own the movie have yet heard form your mouth why it's so good just a bunch namecalling.

So it's "total BS" and yet you own the movie? Right. I believe that.

Gotta keep the bullshit straight if you're ever going to blossom into an effective troll, bud.

 

[MithShrike]

Hmm... flamewars... Anyway, I liked the movie well enough. Didn't see all of it as I came in half way through on HBO.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: Entity
The chief problem I had with the movie's conclusion, since no one has asked me , was that throughout the film, it seemed to be placing the fault of materialistic desires on the individual; then, in the conclusion, by destroying the banks, etc., it essentially shifted that blame from the individual to the system. The conclusion seemed inconsistent to the message of the rest of the film.

Otherwise it was entertaining, though.

Rob

That was exactly the same thing that I got out of it.

The problem with this film like many contemporary literature is the message is being clouded by nonsensical extreme violence, totally anti-social behavior ( funny thing too, since the message is about a guy with vapid life and suppression by the corporate machine and he chooses to be even more vapid to get a point across, sure makes sense right), and useless profanity, drug use, and indiscriminate sexual behavior. Basically Ed Norton is doing the opposite throughout the movie for which he decries. He had one part of his life down pat...work... but he missed the two parts I think are important and the movie is some round-a-bout way also feels is important. Namely, real friendships in ones life, whether with a spouse, family or friends AND putting yourself above self for some higher cause than yourself for others..

No doubt this film has excellent acting, excellent cinematography and sets but the filming left me discussed and with the impression the movie makers were hedging their bets. They, on the one hand, wanted the WWF/UFC crowd to buy tickets for the violence, which was like 99% of the movies while at the same time were preaching against it. Clockwork Orange comes to mind, which I also hated. I just felt beat over the head watching it and I?m sure as Faust says many people didn?t "get it".

So did fight club even try to answer it's own questions other than be left with the impression you should beat the crap outta some colleques to feel AlIVE? NO. So In my mind it's a failure as a film that simply exists to portray violence for violence sake.

As for the ending...Ya the whole keyser soze thing is really cool.. And getting seriously dated in my mind.. So you've just been fusken with me for the last 80 minutes..Great.. And the only thing it answers, which I'm sure wasn?t his intent, is there is no escape from the oppression. Even his guys feel just like another nazi organization, just this time he?s the CEO.


JMO of couse

 

[Zebo]

RE:how can ppl not like fight club

So it's "total BS" and yet you own the movie? Right. I believe that. Gotta keep the bullshzit straight if you're ever going to blossom into an effective troll, bud.

So you own no movies you later regret buying? Who's full of shixt now. Everyone makes mistake form time to time.. I'm really surprised about your tone and assumptions...well not really you did like fight club after all, and probably couldnt punch your way out of a wet paper bag much like most nerds who like this movie and are projecting you feces all over the place like a baboon when someone disagree with you.


Peace.

 

[kalster]

man
hehe

i went for a sub and i came back to this flamewar , and the post i started, damnnn, sweet lol

jokes apart tho, i saw someone mention mullholland drive in an earlier post

i saw that movie 2 weeks back, i was completely into the movie till bout the halfway point, and then in 1 scene i was totally lost, man that was confusing

i need to see it 1 more time to understand it


wat do u guys think of it

 

[WhiteKnight]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: Entity
The chief problem I had with the movie's conclusion, since no one has asked me , was that throughout the film, it seemed to be placing the fault of materialistic desires on the individual; then, in the conclusion, by destroying the banks, etc., it essentially shifted that blame from the individual to the system. The conclusion seemed inconsistent to the message of the rest of the film.

Otherwise it was entertaining, though.

Rob

That was exactly the same thing that I got out of it.

The problem with this film like many contemporary literature is the message is being clouded by nonsensical extreme violence, totally anti-social behavior ( funny thing too, since the message is about a guy with vapid life and suppression by the corporate machine and he chooses to be even more vapid to get a point across, sure makes sense right), and useless profanity, drug use, and indiscriminate sexual behavior. Basically Ed Norton is doing the opposite throughout the movie for which he decries. He had one part of his life down pat...work... but he missed the two parts I think are important and the movie is some round-a-bout way also feels is important. Namely, real friendships in ones life, whether with a spouse, family or friends AND putting yourself above self for some higher cause than yourself for others..

No doubt this film has excellent acting, excellent cinematography and sets but the filming left me discussed and with the impression the movie makers were hedging their bets. They, on the one hand, wanted the WWF/UFC crowd to buy tickets for the violence, which was like 99% of the movies while at the same time were preaching against it. Clockwork Orange comes to mind, which I also hated. I just felt beat over the head watching it and I?m sure as Faust says many people didn?t "get it".

So did fight club even try to answer it's own questions other than be left with the impression you should beat the crap outta some colleques to feel AlIVE? NO. So In my mind it's a failure as a film that simply exists to portray violence for violence sake.

As for the ending...Ya the whole keyser soze thing is really cool.. And getting seriously dated in my mind.. So you've just been fusken with me for the last 80 minutes..Great.. And the only thing it answers, which I'm sure wasn?t his intent, is there is no escape from the oppression. Even his guys feel just like another nazi organization, just this time he?s the CEO.


JMO of couse

Good post.

 

[geno]

my girlfriend thought it was too bloody

can't please everyone, especially when it comes to movies.

 

[GroundZero]

Originally posted by: kalster
just reading some reviews on imdb.com


i cant believe lots of ppl didnt like this movie

i was like totally blown away when i was it the first time

i have seen it like 9-10 times after that

this movie just rulezzz

ok i see why you liked it, you are like 12 or something.
it was an ok nothing great flick. not worth the price of admission.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Fausto1
Remember, some people actually purchase Back Street Boys CD's.....millions of them, in fact. How can you expect such a population of morons to appreciate such a great movie?

I don't worship of Fight Club. It was an incredibly average movie with a semi-decent mindfvck at the end. I also think the Back Street Boys are no talent hacks.

 

[slackerinabox]

I hated the movie.. It cheated.. It failed on a story level and soared on every other - the acting was great (brad pitt is the freaking man), the direction was awesome, the dialogue was fairly good.. but think about it.. The story sold out on many levels.. Here are my thoughts.. Really think about them (SPOILERS):

-We're shown the fight club as a release for modern male angst.. Valid.. I like that.. Modern man has been pussified so much and the fight club is a way for men to be men and rebel against the pussification.. That's awesome... I dig it.. If the movie was about that and anarchy in america I would LOVE It.. but it's not.. It sells out.. The narrator "kills" Tyler in the end saying that Tyler was wrong.. Saying that fight club itself was wrong, betraying every awesome thing that was set up.

-The twist ending was just stupid and poorly done.. I know that after the usual suspects every screen writer was trying to have a mind blowing twist ending.. I also understand the twist- in a Freudian sense, tyler was a creation to compensate for everything that was wrong with the Narrator... Tyler was outgoing when the narrator was reserved, tyler was sexy and free while the Narrator was a button down kinda guy.. This id/ego/super ego conflict is VERY interesting but it was executed so freaking poorly... We're shown retarded scenes of the narrator drinking alone, talking to himself, etc. etc.. How come no one else noticed???? If you watch the sixth sense again they do NOT cheat..Bruce willis doesn't say a world to ANYONE but Haley Joel Osmoth during the movive (after he gets shot that is).. Fight Club cheats like a mad man.. How could have the sexy brunette not have wondered what's up with the guy because he's talking to himself?? How come one in fight club thought it was weird?? I've been around people with multiple personality disorder - THEY SEEM CRAZY because they are!

-The whole message about capitalism, "living life out a catalog," etc. etc. etc.. I liked that a lot.. I was smiling during the scene when they showed his living room filled with Ikea furniture.. GREAT, awesome stuff.. But they betrayed that with the ending..

The directors should have thrown away that gimmick of an ending (tyler doesn't need to be the narrator!) or worked on the gimmick so that they're not cheating and finally they should have sticked to their gut instincts.. If the movie is an attack on capitalism then don't water it down so that we believe that Tyler was wrong in the end..

 

[Spac3d]

It was okay.

 

[CrazyDe1]

I didn't like it the first time I saw it cause I was kind of like WTF....I watched it again and it was alright...I don't really really like it, but it's a decent movie.

 

[mchammer187]

luved it

i was expecting it to be trash

I didnt see it in a theatre and my friend let me borrow the dvd and it was completely different that what I expected

it is a great movie



also any love the song "Where is my mind" by the Pixies such a great song

gonna listen to it now

 

[Electric Amish]

It has Brad Pitt in it.

I've never wanted to see it. My wife confirmed my thoughts when she saw it and said it wasn't very good.

amish

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: BillGates
I saw it in the theater the first time and walked out confused afterwards. I watched it again and understood it more and loved it.

Read the book. You'll get even more out of the movie if you do.

Great book, and one of the few books that hasn't been totally butchered by Hollywood. *cough*Michael Crichton*cough*

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
I hated the movie.. It cheated.. It failed on a story level and soared on every other - the acting was great (brad pitt is the freaking man), the direction was awesome, the dialogue was fairly good.. but think about it.. The story sold out on many levels.. Here are my thoughts.. Really think about them (SPOILERS):

-We're shown the fight club as a release for modern male angst.. Valid.. I like that.. Modern man has been pussified so much and the fight club is a way for men to be men and rebel against the pussification.. That's awesome... I dig it.. If the movie was about that and anarchy in america I would LOVE It.. but it's not.. It sells out.. The narrator "kills" Tyler in the end saying that Tyler was wrong.. Saying that fight club itself was wrong, betraying every awesome thing that was set up.

-The twist ending was just stupid and poorly done.. I know that after the usual suspects every screen writer was trying to have a mind blowing twist ending.. I also understand the twist- in a Freudian sense, tyler was a creation to compensate for everything that was wrong with the Narrator... Tyler was outgoing when the narrator was reserved, tyler was sexy and free while the Narrator was a button down kinda guy.. This id/ego/super ego conflict is VERY interesting but it was executed so freaking poorly... We're shown retarded scenes of the narrator drinking alone, talking to himself, etc. etc.. How come no one else noticed???? If you watch the sixth sense again they do NOT cheat..Bruce willis doesn't say a world to ANYONE but Haley Joel Osmoth during the movive (after he gets shot that is).. Fight Club cheats like a mad man.. How could have the sexy brunette not have wondered what's up with the guy because he's talking to himself?? How come one in fight club thought it was weird?? I've been around people with multiple personality disorder - THEY SEEM CRAZY because they are!

-The whole message about capitalism, "living life out a catalog," etc. etc. etc.. I liked that a lot.. I was smiling during the scene when they showed his living room filled with Ikea furniture.. GREAT, awesome stuff.. But they betrayed that with the ending..

The directors should have thrown away that gimmick of an ending (tyler doesn't need to be the narrator!) or worked on the gimmick so that they're not cheating and finally they should have sticked to their gut instincts.. If the movie is an attack on capitalism then don't water it down so that we believe that Tyler was wrong in the end..

Have you read the book?

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: Zebo
Because it's total BS. A grown man can kill another with just one blow and they go on for five minutes..

Prowresling crowd I'm sure loved it.

yeah, because the whole point of the movie was to show realistic fights.

I thought the point was dorks can be tough too and a dude with multiple personality disorder is cool...Never had much of a positive message as far as aI could tell. Much like mulhuland dr. Plain garbage and people try and sound cool and pretensious acting like it's quality film.

These movies will be relegated playing beteen late night infomerials in the future while movies Like Pulp Fiction still sells more copies than both.

Grow up. It wasn't one-dimensional, as you're apparently trying to claim it was. Tyler Durden was who Edward Norton's character wanted to be, not just another "personality". He wanted to be free of his life that revolved around corporate BS and material things. The point of Fight Club was to give him and everyone else involved a way to break free and bond together in a common mission. You could say he was a messiah preaching a message to his followers.

Try watching the movie again with more than 1% of your brain involved, then come back and tell us you didn't like or understand the deeper meaning of it.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: Entity
The chief problem I had with the movie's conclusion, since no one has asked me , was that throughout the film, it seemed to be placing the fault of materialistic desires on the individual; then, in the conclusion, by destroying the banks, etc., it essentially shifted that blame from the individual to the system. The conclusion seemed inconsistent to the message of the rest of the film.

Otherwise it was entertaining, though.

Rob

That was exactly the same thing that I got out of it.

The problem with this film like many contemporary literature is the message is being clouded by nonsensical extreme violence, totally anti-social behavior ( funny thing too, since the message is about a guy with vapid life and suppression by the corporate machine and he chooses to be even more vapid to get a point across, sure makes sense right), and useless profanity, drug use, and indiscriminate sexual behavior. Basically Ed Norton is doing the opposite throughout the movie for which he decries. He had one part of his life down pat...work... but he missed the two parts I think are important and the movie is some round-a-bout way also feels is important. Namely, real friendships in ones life, whether with a spouse, family or friends AND putting yourself above self for some higher cause than yourself for others..

No doubt this film has excellent acting, excellent cinematography and sets but the filming left me discussed and with the impression the movie makers were hedging their bets. They, on the one hand, wanted the WWF/UFC crowd to buy tickets for the violence, which was like 99% of the movies while at the same time were preaching against it. Clockwork Orange comes to mind, which I also hated. I just felt beat over the head watching it and I?m sure as Faust says many people didn?t "get it".

So did fight club even try to answer it's own questions other than be left with the impression you should beat the crap outta some colleques to feel AlIVE? NO. So In my mind it's a failure as a film that simply exists to portray violence for violence sake.

As for the ending...Ya the whole keyser soze thing is really cool.. And getting seriously dated in my mind.. So you've just been fusken with me for the last 80 minutes..Great.. And the only thing it answers, which I'm sure wasn?t his intent, is there is no escape from the oppression. Even his guys feel just like another nazi organization, just this time he?s the CEO.


JMO of couse

You obviously didn't get the point of the movie. It wasn't about violence alone, although violence WAS involved. If you don't get that, then I'm very sorry for you. If they were preaching against violence, I must have missed that part. The WWF crowd most likely wouldn't even get the message of the movie, just like you didn't.

I'm surprised you don't look at Pulp Fiction in such a one-dimensional way and say it was all about violence and profanity, without acknowledging the fact that it is a very well-made intelligent film, just like Fight Club.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
I hated the movie.. It cheated.. It failed on a story level and soared on every other - the acting was great (brad pitt is the freaking man), the direction was awesome, the dialogue was fairly good.. but think about it.. The story sold out on many levels.. Here are my thoughts.. Really think about them (SPOILERS):

-We're shown the fight club as a release for modern male angst.. Valid.. I like that.. Modern man has been pussified so much and the fight club is a way for men to be men and rebel against the pussification.. That's awesome... I dig it.. If the movie was about that and anarchy in america I would LOVE It.. but it's not.. It sells out.. The narrator "kills" Tyler in the end saying that Tyler was wrong.. Saying that fight club itself was wrong, betraying every awesome thing that was set up.

-The twist ending was just stupid and poorly done.. I know that after the usual suspects every screen writer was trying to have a mind blowing twist ending.. I also understand the twist- in a Freudian sense, tyler was a creation to compensate for everything that was wrong with the Narrator... Tyler was outgoing when the narrator was reserved, tyler was sexy and free while the Narrator was a button down kinda guy.. This id/ego/super ego conflict is VERY interesting but it was executed so freaking poorly... We're shown retarded scenes of the narrator drinking alone, talking to himself, etc. etc.. How come no one else noticed???? If you watch the sixth sense again they do NOT cheat..Bruce willis doesn't say a world to ANYONE but Haley Joel Osmoth during the movive (after he gets shot that is).. Fight Club cheats like a mad man.. How could have the sexy brunette not have wondered what's up with the guy because he's talking to himself?? How come one in fight club thought it was weird?? I've been around people with multiple personality disorder - THEY SEEM CRAZY because they are!

-The whole message about capitalism, "living life out a catalog," etc. etc. etc.. I liked that a lot.. I was smiling during the scene when they showed his living room filled with Ikea furniture.. GREAT, awesome stuff.. But they betrayed that with the ending..

The directors should have thrown away that gimmick of an ending (tyler doesn't need to be the narrator!) or worked on the gimmick so that they're not cheating and finally they should have sticked to their gut instincts.. If the movie is an attack on capitalism then don't water it down so that we believe that Tyler was wrong in the end..

Have you read the book?

I didn't nor should I have to in order to enjoy the movie..

 

[psianime]

Great movie... but it wouldn't watch it again because it's one of those movies where they build up the story line right until the end and then drop it on you. If you have already seen the end... I don't see why you should see the plot twist again.