How can people stand driving manuals?

[Zclyh3]

It also keeps other people who don't know how to drive stick from driving your car =P

AMEN.


Also, I hate it when ricers front they want to race their AUTOMATIC cars. Fu*k that. You ain't worthy enough to race people with sticks. IF you want to race, then it has to be stick vs. stick. Not stick vs. automatic. REAL racers drive stick. Also, driving stick TAKES skill. It's for people who aren't lazy. (Americans are known for their laziness and obesity.) I'm an American myself and it applies to me except for the obesity part. People who drive stick and race their car knows that people that drive automatics get NO RESPECT regardless of what car they drive.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: NutBucket

I have to crack my neck like every minute or so for it to stay reasonbly comfortable. Some people even highschool called me twitch because I was always jerking my back/neck around so I wasn't in pain.

Seeing as that's the case, I'm glad that CC helps you live your life. However, wouldn't you agree that your situation is a bit out of the ordinary?

Yes, but do I have to be verbally attacked because I like to use my cruise controll and become upset when it goes out.

If you state your case in a whiny me me me manner, then yes.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Yes, but do I have to be verbally attacked because I like to use my cruise controll and become upset when it goes out.

I think what got people riled up was the fact that you said it was like being in hell to drive without CC, and said you liked to daydream while driving. As a fellow motorist, I don't relish the prospect of daydreaming drivers, and the comment about hell just sounds a little primadonna-ish. I am not trying to attack you at all, just accounting for the reception your comments received.

That's fine Don_Vito, I took no offence from your post. I just meant, not thinking about when to push the pedal for more gas, check all gauges, ect, etc. Not like: hmmmm let me fall asleep for an hour .

I was refering to another member that posted on this thread.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Yes, but do I have to be verbally attacked because I like to use my cruise controll and become upset when it goes out.

I think what got people riled up was the fact that you said it was like being in hell to drive without CC, and said you liked to daydream while driving. As a fellow motorist, I don't relish the prospect of daydreaming drivers, and the comment about hell just sounds a little primadonna-ish. I am not trying to attack you at all, just accounting for the reception your comments received.

That's fine Don_Vito, I took no offence from your post. I just meant, not thinking about when to push the pedal for more gas, check all gauges, ect, etc. Not like: hmmmm let me fall asleep for an hour . I was refering to another member that posted on this thread.

Yea, me!

 

[ScottyB]

I am not saying that I would never get a manual vehicle. Just not one for everyday driving. I salivate over the thought of a '69 Camaro SS with a 454 and all the other sh!t. (My dad had one).

 

[PeeluckyDuckee]

I've driven an auto for the past 6yrs, and have only begun to venture out into the sticky world

My cousin's bf let me take it for a test ride in his stick on a long clear back road. Must say, it definitely does take a lot of skill and timing. I've driven a car for 6yrs mind you, but once I've been in his stick ride, I feel like a totally new beginner. No kidding. But once you get the hang of it, it can be a lot of fun to ride in.

Our old auto was such a slouch, no power whatsoever. With his stick, I can feel that kick of power in an instant, whenever I need or want it.

BTW, nothing personal either, but I wouldn't want to drive near anybody who day dreams in their vehicle while it's in motion!! Granted you do have a special circumstance, but you brought about yourself the wrong way, that may explain the bit of negativity you're getting

My new ride is a family car, so to suit everybody we went with an auto. When I get my own ride though, I'll definitely give stick a shot

Driving a stick, the driver is in general more attentative to the road and his/her surroundings. This makes for a more safe environment to drive in, imo.

 

[Braves]

I know lexus's weren't made to be fun, but driving my friends 4k mazda mx-6 stick shift is a hell lot more fun then crusing around with the music blasting on my parents 40k lexus. I even feel more power. This thread has made me laugh a little bit, especially with the whole cruise control thing. My family doesn't own a manual, we have 3 automatics, and i don't know where the hell the cruise control is on any of those. I've driven up to an hour at a constant speed on the freeway with no traffic and i didn't even ponder the use of cruise control. Granted I was probably going about 100 but what the hey. If you are a person that daydreams at red lights and waits for me to beep at you then your sorry butt better watch out when i gas it, pull into your lane, and drive 1/4 of the speed limit just to piss you off.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: Zclyh3

It also keeps other people who don't know how to drive stick from driving your car =P

AMEN.


Also, I hate it when ricers front they want to race their AUTOMATIC cars. Fu*k that. You ain't worthy enough to race people with sticks. IF you want to race, then it has to be stick vs. stick. Not stick vs. automatic. REAL racers drive stick. Also, driving stick TAKES skill. It's for people who aren't lazy. (Americans are known for their laziness and obesity.) I'm an American myself and it applies to me except for the obesity part. People who drive stick and race their car knows that people that drive automatics get NO RESPECT regardless of what car they drive.

Whens the last time you've been to the track? Some if not most of the fastest cars on the track are automatic because you get more consistent times and theres less to mess you up. I'd like to see you call any of the Lightning owners running 12's and 11's not worthy of being American or whatnot.

Oh and 24 out of 48 of the fastest muscle cars of all time are automatics. Guess they're real pieces of $hit huh bub?

 

[Zclyh3]

Oh..I made no remarks as to how fast your car is. I never made remarks that automatics are POS. I'm only talking about the DRIVER. Also, I wasn't talking about drag racing either. I was talking abotu Gran Turismo racing. Cause drag racing ain't nothing. A real racer knows how to handle his car in anyway possible...not just going straight.

 

[tokamak]

i think manuals have advantages. for one, i think it keeps you paying attention more. these days there's a lot of distractions in cars - cell phones, navigation systems, radio/cd player, whatever - driving a manual you pretty much have to pay attention to whats going on all the time. also, as has been said before, a manual can make even a very ordinary car seem fast. i used to drive the hell out of my sister's manual corolla there are disadvantages, however, like not being able to eat as well, being stuck in traffic, etc. all that being said, i slightly prefer a manual, but autos are ok, too.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Zclyh3

It also keeps other people who don't know how to drive stick from driving your car =P

AMEN.


Also, I hate it when ricers front they want to race their AUTOMATIC cars. Fu*k that. You ain't worthy enough to race people with sticks. IF you want to race, then it has to be stick vs. stick. Not stick vs. automatic. REAL racers drive stick. Also, driving stick TAKES skill. It's for people who aren't lazy. (Americans are known for their laziness and obesity.) I'm an American myself and it applies to me except for the obesity part. People who drive stick and race their car knows that people that drive automatics get NO RESPECT regardless of what car they drive.

Whens the last time you've been to the track? Some if not most of the fastest cars on the track are automatic because you get more consistent times and theres less to mess you up. I'd like to see you call any of the Lightning owners running 12's and 11's not worthy of being American or whatnot.

Oh and 24 out of 48 of the fastest muscle cars of all time are automatics. Guess they're real pieces of $hit huh bub?

Autos are OK on muscle cars (or at least cars with real power), but on a car that only saw 130 hp on the best day of it's life an auto is a relentless leech.

Viper GTS

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Zclyh3

It also keeps other people who don't know how to drive stick from driving your car =P

AMEN.


Also, I hate it when ricers front they want to race their AUTOMATIC cars. Fu*k that. You ain't worthy enough to race people with sticks. IF you want to race, then it has to be stick vs. stick. Not stick vs. automatic. REAL racers drive stick. Also, driving stick TAKES skill. It's for people who aren't lazy. (Americans are known for their laziness and obesity.) I'm an American myself and it applies to me except for the obesity part. People who drive stick and race their car knows that people that drive automatics get NO RESPECT regardless of what car they drive.

You really don't have a clue do you? I am sorry but an auto is a must for some cars that make a lot of power. Also the old Auto-X manual vs. auto has been hashed out time and time again on tons of boards. If you have an auto like mine, downshifts, upshifts, engine braking,etc can be done manually or auto. The tranny was built that way. While I agree the auto in a '90 civic isn't built to be intelligent, autos are improving every year. Mine was special built but I have no problem hanging with a manual car through the twisities. Not only that but my whole suspension has been replaced.

Also using Nitrous with a manual can be dangerous. You BETTER have a window switch and hope you never hit the rev-limiter. I prefer the way mine is. I can manually shift it however I want or through it into auto mode and cruise or drag.

What high HP cars have you driven with Autos?
What high HP cars have you driven with a Manual?
What kind of Auto?

Have you ever auto-xed in a intelligent auto?
What about a standard manual?
Have you ever dragged with a manual?
What about an auto?

I could go on and on. Obviously you buy into ricer hype that autos are no good. Sorry but their parents bought a manual on their economy car to save money. Autos can be just as good if not most of the time better. Yes you don't see a Cobra auto or Viper auto. All I have to say is look up Lidio Iachabelli.(sp?)

There is a reason his 9-second car uses a 4R70W(same type of tranny as mine). Only difference is his was built by Performance Auto and mine by Lentech. Autos are no longer the slush boxes of old, and you would be a fool to not realize the equality that autos have with manuals today.

My auto shifts either really hard(when on the gas hard) or normally. I can pick and choose. I also don't get a dead left leg in traffic. BTW, yes I can drive a manual just fine. I have frequently driven a '01 z28 6 speed, a 98GT 5-speed, a 99 Chevy Cavalier, and a 98 Chevy S10.

Not everyone needs an auto, not everyone needs a manual. Different strokes different folks. Don't knock the method.

Mill

 

[Dragnov]

I think it appeals to different people. There are those that look for luxury and there are those that look for sport/fun while driving . Personally, I'm luxury. I like it to be comfortable, smooth, quiet (no outside noise), and all the gizmos. The "power" argument only comes into play if you pretty much have a 4 cylinder car or if its somehow underpowered already. And I guess those that like to be speed racer in their family sedan or something (*cough* Honda Accord *cough*).

 

[alphatarget1]

i can't drive a stick cuz i learned with an automatic in the first place. my dad HATES stick shift because of hills. I was trying to convince him to teach me how to drive a stick and buy me one but noooo i have to stick with automatic. Automatic has their advantages.

 

[toph99]

Originally posted by: Zclyh3

It also keeps other people who don't know how to drive stick from driving your car =P

AMEN.


Also, I hate it when ricers front they want to race their AUTOMATIC cars. Fu*k that. You ain't worthy enough to race people with sticks. IF you want to race, then it has to be stick vs. stick. Not stick vs. automatic. REAL racers drive stick. Also, driving stick TAKES skill. It's for people who aren't lazy. (Americans are known for their laziness and obesity.) I'm an American myself and it applies to me except for the obesity part. People who drive stick and race their car knows that people that drive automatics get NO RESPECT regardless of what car they drive.

you are SO waiting to get b!tchslapped by an automatic fbody or lightning. consistency wins races. or how about Millennium with his lentech auto?(which is built in a town near me ) Most people who race and drive stick think they are god's gift to shifting, when in fact they suck horribly. With an automatic, you will get the same shifts EVERY time. I think you need to head to the track more often little boy.

 

[Zclyh3]

That's why people who don't know how to shift need to practice more. Practice makes perfect.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Zclyh3
That's why people who don't know how to shift need to practice more. Practice makes perfect.

While you are practicing your shifts please find me some manual transmissions rated for 700+HP. When I build my 351 drag car(Fox Body Mustang) if you can find a 700+HP manual to put in it I will do so. I guess all these guys just can't drive a manual like you can.




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[SuperTool]

Just gonna skip manual and wait for CVT trannies. Seems like they are more efficient and faster. SMG style is good too, especially with autoshift
It seems like clutching and shifting is too much hassle.

 

[amok]

Lol, a better question would be "How can some people be so terrible at driving manuals?" I got a bit too intoxicated at dinner a couple of weeks ago (happened upon an old friend and his wife). I asked my date before I started drinking if she could drive a 6-sp, and she said yes. By the time we got to my house I was in a state of shock-induced sobriety. She downshifted it to redline more times than i can count (i was surprised to not have bruises from my seat belt), dumped the clutch every time she took off, and almost rolled back into another car on the only hill we stopped on. How does that kind of driving equal being able to drive a manual?

 

[B00ne]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
I don't understand why people would want to drive a stick shift. I can barley stand all the work that goes into driving an automatic now that my cruise control went out. Can anyone enlighten me on this topic?

Well I dont know how ppl can stand driving automatic - I want to be in control. And cruise control dunno who would be so stupid to spend money on something useless.... Well it's useless here anyway:
Autobahn: Speed up to 130 (km/h) oh someone slow's blocking the lane .....free - 200 oops a small car wants to pass the truck - eeeek emergency break to 110- phew, back to 200 - speed limit 120, ah who cares keep on going - oooops there is an automatic radar machine coming up - eeeek break to 120 - speed up again - traffic jam end right behind the hill- eeeek full stop.... and so on and so on

 

[B00ne]

Originally posted by: NFS4
It's doesn't take half a brain to drive an automatic...even without cruise control. I can drive my car with my pinky finger and my right foot on the highway.

Anyway, I just like the ease of driving with an auto. I can eat and drive, or talk on the phone and drive, or just about anything else and drive...I like to multitask

that is very very dangerous (and prohibited) driving requires constant and utmost concentration or u can cause a traffic accident involving many cars, tens of cars - hundreds of cars - here anyway

 

[B00ne]

Originally posted by: HiTek21

Edit: It also keeps other people who don't know how to drive stick from driving your car =P

How did those get their license??

 

[CocaCola5]

Slush box...nuff said.

 

[ZapZilla]

You're all wrong.

I stand my driving manuals just like I stand my playing cards:

Two leaning together in the middle--two leaning on the sides--one on top--repeat...

 

[Ryan]