How can people stand driving manuals?

[Don Vito Corleone]

Why would I want to do extra work when I don't have too?

If you have to make comments like that then you are one INCREDIBLY arrogant mofo.

WTH are you talking about? As a driver you have a certain amount of responsibility to perform "extra work" including - gasp! - paying attention, and putting your body, including your feet, in a position that will allow you to quickly respond to emergencies. If this is too stressful for you, I suggest you take the bus, to ensure your safety and that of others on the road.

Is this a joke or something?

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB I hate not having cruise control. I used to be able to daydream and think about whatever I wanted to think about. Now I have to look at the gas gage like every couple of minutes. It is horrible, its like living in hell. I can't even sit how I like now because I have to have my foot by the pedal all the time.

Heaven forbid you have too look at the gas guage and use your muscles to push a pedal

If you have to use cruise control on a trip to teh grocery store, you are one INCREDIBLY lazy mofo.

Why would I want to do extra work when I don't have too?

If you have to make comments like that then you are one INCREDIBLY arrogant mofo.

Just accept the fact that your lazy........

 

[MaxDSP]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Also, there are just times when you don't want to be bothered. I like to just sit back and relax while driving...

EXACTLY. I just want to drive calmly and not have to upshift/downshift everytime Im at a light or get stuck in traffic. Id think a stick is a horrible way to get around in the city.

However, there are times when Im on the expressway where the music starts pumping and it gets you excited and you just NEED a stickshift at that point. Music makes me crazy in the car. If my POS Intrepid didnt start shaking violently beyond 80 MPH, Id have a lot of speeding tickets.

 

[crawford]

i love driving stick, id never go back to auto. i feel like a bitch when driving an auto and i think any fast car should be a 5sp. I would prolly have gotten a grand prix gtp if it wasnt for the fact that they are all autos.

 

[NFS4]

Also, the best of both worlds is a semi-automatic manual transmission ala Toyota's SMT, Ferrari's F1, or BMW's SMG. And I'm not talking about those pu$$y a$$ Tiptronics, Autosticks, and SportMatic jobies.

So you can manually shift when you wanna faster than a traditional manual, and act like a total lazy mofo when you want to.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB I hate not having cruise control. I used to be able to daydream and think about whatever I wanted to think about. Now I have to look at the gas gage like every couple of minutes. It is horrible, its like living in hell. I can't even sit how I like now because I have to have my foot by the pedal all the time.

Heaven forbid you have too look at the gas guage and use your muscles to push a pedal

If you have to use cruise control on a trip to teh grocery store, you are one INCREDIBLY lazy mofo.

Why would I want to do extra work when I don't have too?

If you have to make comments like that then you are one INCREDIBLY arrogant mofo.

Just accept the fact that your lazy........

What's up with all you @ssholes that have to come and attack a person in every thread. Is that the only enjoyment you have in your life (being an @sshole)?

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Why would I want to do extra work when I don't have too?

If you have to make comments like that then you are one INCREDIBLY arrogant mofo.

WTH are you talking about? As a driver you have a certain amount of responsibility to perform "extra work" including - gasp! - paying attention, and putting your body, including your feet, in a position that will allow you to quickly respond to emergencies. If this is too stressful for you, I suggest you take the bus, to ensure your safety and that of others on the road. Is this a joke or something?

Very well said

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB I hate not having cruise control. I used to be able to daydream and think about whatever I wanted to think about. Now I have to look at the gas gage like every couple of minutes. It is horrible, its like living in hell. I can't even sit how I like now because I have to have my foot by the pedal all the time.

Heaven forbid you have too look at the gas guage and use your muscles to push a pedal

If you have to use cruise control on a trip to teh grocery store, you are one INCREDIBLY lazy mofo.

Why would I want to do extra work when I don't have too?

If you have to make comments like that then you are one INCREDIBLY arrogant mofo.

Just accept the fact that your lazy........

What's up with all you @ssholes that have to come and attack a person in every thread. Is that the only enjoyment you have in your life (being an @sshole)?

No. I just don't like lazy people.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB I hate not having cruise control. I used to be able to daydream and think about whatever I wanted to think about. Now I have to look at the gas gage like every couple of minutes. It is horrible, its like living in hell. I can't even sit how I like now because I have to have my foot by the pedal all the time.

Heaven forbid you have too look at the gas guage and use your muscles to push a pedal

If you have to use cruise control on a trip to teh grocery store, you are one INCREDIBLY lazy mofo.

Why would I want to do extra work when I don't have too?

If you have to make comments like that then you are one INCREDIBLY arrogant mofo.

Just accept the fact that your lazy........

What's up with all you @ssholes that have to come and attack a person in every thread. Is that the only enjoyment you have in your life (being an @sshole)?

No. I just don't like lazy people.

Well, I don't like @ssholes, so I guess we are even.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Accords are DAMN fun little cars. My 89 DX was very go-kart like on back roads, and it had under 100 hp!

Viper GTS

Yeah, raw horsepower is not all there is to driving fun. My first car was an '85 Toyota SR5 wagon, with, as I recall, 75 bhp, and a 5-speed. That thing was a blast! With 4WD, it made winter driving in the Midwest a ton of fun - lots of (low) power slides and hand brake turns galore.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB I hate not having cruise control. I used to be able to daydream and think about whatever I wanted to think about. Now I have to look at the gas gage like every couple of minutes. It is horrible, its like living in hell. I can't even sit how I like now because I have to have my foot by the pedal all the time.

Heaven forbid you have too look at the gas guage and use your muscles to push a pedal

If you have to use cruise control on a trip to teh grocery store, you are one INCREDIBLY lazy mofo.

Why would I want to do extra work when I don't have too?

If you have to make comments like that then you are one INCREDIBLY arrogant mofo.

Just accept the fact that your lazy........

What's up with all you @ssholes that have to come and attack a person in every thread. Is that the only enjoyment you have in your life (being an @sshole)?

No. I just don't like lazy people.

Well, I don't like @ssholes, so I guess we are even.

Well, I prefer "The All-wise", but I guess that'll have to do

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Yea its the car itself that makes driving fun. Its fun pushing my 88 Accord to the limits and beyond just for the hell of it. I can't imagine doing it in a new car though unless it's ultra sporty or something

And I like automatics better too - less to mess up. Miss a shift, downshift to the wrong gear, dropping the clutch, etc etc can make for some expensive repairs. True you miss out on the "fun" of driving a stick but I'll stick to an auto

 

[kami]

I prefer auto. I'm not a car guy by any means. Just give me a vehicle that gets me from point A to point B and never breaks down. that's all I ask really...

 

[hoihtah]

i sit when i drive manual.

 

[HiTek21]

Some of you are torn between the auto and manual... I guess the Sequential shifter is the kind of transmission for you... Like in the Celica GTS Auto or Prelude Auto... Drive auto or put it in Sequential shift mode and you can control your shifting with a push of a button.... Still no fun compared to the true manual =P

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: HiTek21
Some of you are torn between the auto and manual... I guess the Sequential shifter is the kind of transmission for you... Like in the Celica GTS Auto or Prelude Auto... Drive auto or put it in Sequential shift mode and you can control your shifting with a push of a button.... Still no fun compared to the true manual =P

Those aren't sequentials...those are automatic transmissions that think they are smarter than everyone else. True semi's are:

F1
SMG
SMT

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

And I like automatics better too - less to mess up. Miss a shift, downshift to the wrong gear, dropping the clutch, etc etc can make for some expensive repairs. True you miss out on the "fun" of driving a stick but I'll stick to an auto

I personally would say just the opposite, though I am admittedly a diehard stick afficianado. An automatic tranny is MUCH more complex than a stick, and while a manual transmission normally will require a clutch replacement every 50-100K miles (I have good clutch discipline and mine last a LONG time), it is a whole lot cheaper than rebuilding or replacing an automatic. As long as you have a modern car with a synchronized manual transmission, and a reasonable amount of care, it is easy to drive a stick without ever endangering the transmission.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB I hate not having cruise control. I used to be able to daydream and think about whatever I wanted to think about. Now I have to look at the gas gage like every couple of minutes. It is horrible, its like living in hell. I can't even sit how I like now because I have to have my foot by the pedal all the time.

Heaven forbid you have too look at the gas guage and use your muscles to push a pedal

If you have to use cruise control on a trip to teh grocery store, you are one INCREDIBLY lazy mofo.

Why would I want to do extra work when I don't have too?

If you have to make comments like that then you are one INCREDIBLY arrogant mofo.

Just accept the fact that your lazy........

What's up with all you @ssholes that have to come and attack a person in every thread. Is that the only enjoyment you have in your life (being an @sshole)?

No. I just don't like lazy people.

Well, I don't like @ssholes, so I guess we are even.

Dude, not even. Though you seem to have a valid reason to need cruise control and use it reguarly, you come off sounding like you have better things to do then actually drive when you're behind the wheel. This makes you seem lazy. If you do truly have a need for the CC then I'm glad it helps you. If not, then you are just being lazy and an @sshole.

Personally, I love my 5speed. Makes driving so fun. I sit in traffic fairly regularly living in LA and it hasn't gotten to me yet, tho I've only been driving 2 years. Like others have commented, it makes driving my (relatively) plebian 91 Accord a blast to drive, especially with its upgraded suspension

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Those aren't sequentials...those are automatic transmissions that think they are smarter than everyone else. True semi's are:

F1
SMG
SMT

From everything I have read, BMW's SMG II is the only one of those three that is not slower to accelerate than an actual manual. The actual shifts are actuated very quickly, but getting the cars moving is more of a chore with an SMG than with a stick - I know the SMT-equipped Celica is a full 1.4 seconds slower to 60 than a stick - and there is generally a delay in the actuation after the paddle is pulled. The SMG II at least allows the driver to set the tranny for a very quick, harsh-shifting performance mode, but even then the transmission will only allow a limited number of high-performance launches between clutch replacements.

To me a real stick gives the driver the chance to vary his shift technique with each shift depending on circumstances, rather than placing the transmission into a particular shifting mode. That said, I fully admit I would LOVE to spend a weekend with an SMG II-equipped M3!

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB I hate not having cruise control. I used to be able to daydream and think about whatever I wanted to think about. Now I have to look at the gas gage like every couple of minutes. It is horrible, its like living in hell. I can't even sit how I like now because I have to have my foot by the pedal all the time.

Heaven forbid you have too look at the gas guage and use your muscles to push a pedal

If you have to use cruise control on a trip to teh grocery store, you are one INCREDIBLY lazy mofo.

Why would I want to do extra work when I don't have too?

If you have to make comments like that then you are one INCREDIBLY arrogant mofo.

Just accept the fact that your lazy........

What's up with all you @ssholes that have to come and attack a person in every thread. Is that the only enjoyment you have in your life (being an @sshole)?

No. I just don't like lazy people.

Well, I don't like @ssholes, so I guess we are even.

Dude, not even. Though you seem to have a valid reason to need cruise control and use it reguarly, you come off sounding like you have better things to do then actually drive when you're behind the wheel. This makes you seem lazy. If you do truly have a need for the CC then I'm glad it helps you. If not, then you are just being lazy and an @sshole.

Personally, I love my 5speed. Makes driving so fun. I sit in traffic fairly regularly living in LA and it hasn't gotten to me yet, tho I've only been driving 2 years. Like others have commented, it makes driving my (relatively) plebian 91 Accord a blast to drive, especially with its upgraded suspension

I have to crack my neck like every minute or so for it to stay reasonbly comfortable. Some people even highschool called me twitch because I was always jerking my back/neck around so I wasn't in pain.

 

[NutBucket]

I have to crack my neck like every minute or so for it to stay reasonbly comfortable. Some people even highschool called me twitch because I was always jerking my back/neck around so I wasn't in pain.

Seeing as that's the case, I'm glad that CC helps you live your life. However, wouldn't you agree that your situation is a bit out of the ordinary?

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: ScottyB I hate not having cruise control. I used to be able to daydream and think about whatever I wanted to think about. Now I have to look at the gas gage like every couple of minutes. It is horrible, its like living in hell. I can't even sit how I like now because I have to have my foot by the pedal all the time.

Heaven forbid you have too look at the gas guage and use your muscles to push a pedal

If you have to use cruise control on a trip to teh grocery store, you are one INCREDIBLY lazy mofo.

Why would I want to do extra work when I don't have too?

If you have to make comments like that then you are one INCREDIBLY arrogant mofo.

Just accept the fact that your lazy........

What's up with all you @ssholes that have to come and attack a person in every thread. Is that the only enjoyment you have in your life (being an @sshole)?

No. I just don't like lazy people.

Well, I don't like @ssholes, so I guess we are even.

Dude, not even. Though you seem to have a valid reason to need cruise control and use it reguarly, you come off sounding like you have better things to do then actually drive when you're behind the wheel. This makes you seem lazy. If you do truly have a need for the CC then I'm glad it helps you. If not, then you are just being lazy and an @sshole. Personally, I love my 5speed. Makes driving so fun. I sit in traffic fairly regularly living in LA and it hasn't gotten to me yet, tho I've only been driving 2 years. Like others have commented, it makes driving my (relatively) plebian 91 Accord a blast to drive, especially with its upgraded suspension

I have to crack my neck like every minute or so for it to stay reasonbly comfortable. Some people even highschool called me twitch because I was always jerking my back/neck around so I wasn't in pain.

And the thread ends on this?!?!?!?!?!?

<---Doing his part to be an Asshole.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I have to crack my neck like every minute or so for it to stay reasonbly comfortable. Some people even highschool called me twitch because I was always jerking my back/neck around so I wasn't in pain.

You should look at getting an orthotic back cushion or something to make your car more habitable. Volvos have seats designed with the help of a chiropractor, and are very comfy. Honestly you are not making a good case for your safety as a driver, and if you really can't stay reasonably comfortable after driving for a while in a safe postition (hands and ten and two o'clock, foot on the gas), you may seriously need to rethink the whole driving thing.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

I have to crack my neck like every minute or so for it to stay reasonbly comfortable. Some people even highschool called me twitch because I was always jerking my back/neck around so I wasn't in pain.

Seeing as that's the case, I'm glad that CC helps you live your life. However, wouldn't you agree that your situation is a bit out of the ordinary?

Yes, but do I have to be verbally attacked because I like to use my cruise controll and become upset when it goes out.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Yes, but do I have to be verbally attacked because I like to use my cruise controll and become upset when it goes out.

I think what got people riled up was the fact that you said it was like being in hell to drive without CC, and said you liked to daydream while driving. As a fellow motorist, I don't relish the prospect of daydreaming drivers, and the comment about hell just sounds a little primadonna-ish. I am not trying to attack you at all, just accounting for the reception your comments received.