How can anyone defend that jackass Imus?

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
He attacks everyone equally. For instance, he once referred to a a very prominent reporter as a "Boner Nosed Beanie Headed Jew Boy". People need to lighten up.

I disagree. He's broadcasting to millions of people over the public airwaves. He has no right to expect his kind of crap NOT to be taken as seriously and extremely offensive by many, and the more he succeeds in his popularity, the more it legitimizes the same kind of speech by others in public.

It's wrong, and it's much better that he gets called down for it. Then, we can get around to judging the relative value of how serious he was in what he said.

Yeah let's just destroy everyone who offends us. Nobody HAS to listen to him. He has excellent interviews with top people. He helps promote various music with studio concerts. He's funny. In this case he brought the wrath of the hypocritical African-American Army down on himself. You think Sharpton and Jackson have never said outrageous things about other races? We should have their voices choked off too, right?

Why are agreeing so much lately? Who are you and what have you done with International Machine Consortium?

That's just it, we're a consortium.

But seriously, I just tell it as I see it, regardless of issue.

You know, I would bet his career is going to be better than ever after this. Law of unintended consequences and all that. hehe.

I hope he isn't gone, I would really miss that one guy with the bizarre haircut that comes into the studio and mumbles weird stuff and eats oatmeal (and whatever else is handy) while Imus is interviewing the best minds in the country. Great theater!

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: Harvey

I disagree. He's broadcasting to millions of people over the public airwaves. He has no right to expect his kind of crap NOT to be taken as seriously and extremely offensive by many, and the more he succeeds in his popularity, the more it legitimizes the same kind of speech by others in public.

It's wrong, and it's much better that he gets called down for it. Then, we can get around to judging the relative value of how serious he was in what he said.

Why are radio stations held to a standard that TV and Print media are not? Public airwaves should be as protected as any form of speech. If they truly are "the publics airwaves" then why should the government be allowed to interfere?

If his speech is offensive to many he will get silenced as his support drops off teacher others the same lesson. That is how its supposed to work. Using the power of government to silence someone you dislike is the worst possible direction to go.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: Harvey

I disagree. He's broadcasting to millions of people over the public airwaves. He has no right to expect his kind of crap NOT to be taken as seriously and extremely offensive by many, and the more he succeeds in his popularity, the more it legitimizes the same kind of speech by others in public.

It's wrong, and it's much better that he gets called down for it. Then, we can get around to judging the relative value of how serious he was in what he said.

Why are radio stations held to a standard that TV and Print media are not? Public airwaves should be as protected as any form of speech. If they truly are "the publics airwaves" then why should the government be allowed to interfere?

If his speech is offensive to many he will get silenced as his support drops off teacher others the same lesson. That is how its supposed to work. Using the power of government to silence someone you dislike is the worst possible direction to go.

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
OK, I'm not going to debate about what got said so much, as at this point it's been done ad nauseum in OT. However I hear so many people trying to defend this guy behind free speech or something like that. He called a group of black women nappy headed ho's...I mean are the people defending him just waaaay too old to know what the terms he used imply? Try walking up to some random lady on the street and see what happens if you say that to them. Now take that and broadcast it all over the world about a group of young women who were just trying to play basketball. i just don't see how you can defend this moron

I will defend him.

It is his right to say whatever he wants.

It is his responsibility to accept the consequences of his actions.

Should he be fired, NO. Let his audience decide if he is worth listening too.

I look at it this way, if he was black and said it no one would care. If he were black and said something about white girls no one would care. However the press needs racial strife as much as the race warlords.

The whole situation turned into absolute silliness when Sharpton and Jackson became involved. Sorry, those two are lower than dirt and for either of them to claim offense at anyone's actions is repulsive.

OMGFBQQ :shocked: Mark this date down in history, a rare occurence that Shivetya and I are in agreement.

 

[ayabe]

There's something that I have not heard mentioned anywhere -

Imus has called his wife the 'green ho' several times in the last few months, him and his producers. I watch Imus every morning when I'm getting ready for work and at times he can be entertaining. But he can be incredibly crass and arrogant.

I believe what he said was disrespectful and that's it. People are going to disrespect you in your life and people need to deal with it(period). He has apologized profusely and I think that is sufficient.

I believe that Sharpton's whole 'he insulted an entire race of people' is ridiculous, he was referring to a group of female basketball players, who, let's be honest - are not an attractive group as a whole. So yes he insulted this group of women but not all women or all black women as a whole.

I'm a little tired of this media orgy anytime something like this happens where everyone has to start crying and go to rehab, it's a public crucifixion and completely unnecessary.

Furthermore pretty much every news show and sports show for that matter that I watched yesterday was gushing how articulate these women were when they were speaking, like it was a surprise or something. This is the media perpetuating their own innate racial bias for assuming that for some reason they wouldn't be articulate.


There are many rappers out there making millions of dollars selling the pimps and hos stereotypes to young white kids and they wonder why people aren't getting past these stereotypes....hmm.

 

[VooDooAddict]

Originally posted by: ayabe
I'm a little tired of this media orgy anytime something like this happens where everyone has to start crying and go to rehab, it's a public crucifixion and completely unnecessary.

Imus isn't crying over it or saying he's checking into rehab. Imus said he's sorry and trying to move on to the next day. He's not passing the buck like so many prominent figures when they get into trouble. (politicians, celebrities) Sharpton and Jesse Jackson missed the boat here, they could have had a poster boy for someone who corrects their mistakes and takes some responsibility for what they say. Instead they want to lynch him.

You know what's disgustingly ironic ... Sharpton is like an old bigoted white southerner here who would incite a mob over a black man looking at a white woman the wrong way. (Just saying Sharpton is getting far too close to a reversing the stereo type.)

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I dislike Imus, and DO believe he's a racist (he has admittedly used the N word extensively in his private life), and I am not going to defend what he said, but I do think the uproar over it is just ridiculous. I don't think he had racist intent when he spoke, and frankly don't see the big deal. Al Sharpton is scum, plain and simple, and anyone who doubts that just needs to Google "Steven Pagones." The idea that anyone should apologize to Sharpton, for anything, is laughable. If I were Imus, and I were foolish enough to go on the Sharpton show, I'd have apologized, announced my retirement, then confronted Sharpton on his own personal history of race-baiting and slander.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: VooDooAddictImus isn't crying over it or saying he's checking into rehab. Imus said he's sorry and trying to move on to the next day. He's not passing the buck like so many prominent figures when they get into trouble. (politicians, celebrities) Sharpton and Jesse Jackson missed the boat here, they could have had a poster boy for someone who corrects their mistakes and takes some responsibility for what they say. Instead they want to lynch him.

The real opportunity they missed here is bringing to like the lyrics of rap music that is ever so popular in black culture the calls women far worse things than "whores" and uses words even Imus would not dare use to refer to black women.

Instead they concentrate on the white guy because they know he can be guilted into action and because they refuse to acknowledge the problem in their own back yard.


Better to put the focus on someone else than yourself has been Sharpton and Jacksons method of operation.

Cosby was right, but the black community is not ready to listen nor are they allowed to listen, yet.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I dislike Imus, and DO believe he's a racist (he has admittedly used the N word extensively in his private life), and I am not going to defend what he said, but I do think the uproar over it is just ridiculous. I don't think he had racist intent when he spoke, and frankly don't see the big deal. Al Sharpton is scum, plain and simple, and anyone who doubts that just needs to Google "Steven Pagones." The idea that anyone should apologize to Sharpton, for anything, is laughable. If I were Imus, and I were foolish enough to go on the Sharpton show, I'd have apologized, announced my retirement, then confronted Sharpton on his own personal history of race-baiting and slander.

That would be better then Geraldo and O'Reilly. :laugh:

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: daniel49
since fcc is supposed to regulate broadcast decency the more of these shock Jocks they get off the airways the better.

Sounds like someone wishes everyone to be fitting for diapers and given a binky.

 

[VooDooAddict]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: VooDooAddictImus isn't crying over it or saying he's checking into rehab. Imus said he's sorry and trying to move on to the next day. He's not passing the buck like so many prominent figures when they get into trouble. (politicians, celebrities) Sharpton and Jesse Jackson missed the boat here, they could have had a poster boy for someone who corrects their mistakes and takes some responsibility for what they say. Instead they want to lynch him.

The real opportunity they missed here is bringing to like the lyrics of rap music that is ever so popular in black culture the calls women far worse things than "whores" and uses words even Imus would not dare use to refer to black women.

Instead they concentrate on the white guy because they know he can be guilted into action and because they refuse to acknowledge the problem in their own back yard.


Better to put the focus on someone else than yourself has been Sharpton and Jacksons method of operation.

Cosby was right, but the black community is not ready to listen nor are they allowed to listen, yet.

Pointing to rap lyrics is a straw man as Al and Jesse also go after rap lyrics ... it just don't create quite the media frenzy when they go after them. Hell, there are even people (I'm not sure they are associated with Al or Jesse) who blame rap lyrics on "white music executives who are exploiting black artists for $$."

Personally, I think this issue was blown out of proportion relative to many others. The slip up was not said with malice and I feel like it's just been used as an opportunity for Al Sharpton to promote himself. I'm particularly disgusted that Al Sharpton wouldn't even talk with Imus unless it was on the air. Anytime they were off the air Al just would walk out of the room, that to me shows that Al was just there to boost his own ratings and not actually seeking an apology or a dialog.

I think I'm done on this issue. At least on AT.

 

[manowar821]

Question - Does he bash white people, too?

 

[Fineghal]

He should apologize to the team. That's it, end of story.

He should not kiss the NAACP/Sharpton/Jackson's ***.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: daniel49
since fcc is supposed to regulate broadcast decency the more of these shock Jocks they get off the airways the better.

Sounds like someone wishes everyone to be fitting for diapers and given a binky.

not at all, I just don't see how these types ( imus, stern ...etc) benefit our society in any fashion and in fact thet are destructive to it.

 

[Pabster]

While I'm no Imus fan (personally can't stand the guy), I think this whole deal is ridiculous.

His comments were wrong. No question about that. But I'd put the charitable work Imus has done up against Sharpton and Jackson any friggin' day. Those two supposed "leaders" of the black community are the most divisive characters out there.

 

[Fern]

The most interesting thing about this Imus business is seeing AT P&N memebers from "sides of ailse" come together in agreement. The cold day in h3ll has finally arrived

Otherwise, this thing is droning on like the Anna Nicole Smith story, can't our news channels get back to something of import? Please.

Fern

 

[shira]

When I say "ho" more than once, I find myself laughing.

 

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Accipiter22

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Topic Title: How can anyone defend that jackass Imus?
Topic Summary: Just curious...

Because "jackass's" like Imus and I are protected under a little piece of paper called the Constitution of the United States.

Something you and your radical Republicans dismiss and trash.

I'm a liberal democrat. It has nothing to do with free speech, he attacked a group of people based on their ethnic background. I'm not talking about right to free speech arguments, I'm talking about people defending this scum bag saying what he said wasn't wrong or innapropriate.

When you attack someone based on ethnicity it can and should be viewed as a threat.

If you're going to play that wussy ass game then it better be both ways.

Nagin called New Orleans a "Chocolate City", where is the outrage for the white folk?

This one way "Pussification of America" will lead to race wars again.

"Chocolate" isn't an ethnic slur.

 

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
OK, I'm not going to debate about what got said so much, as at this point it's been done ad nauseum in OT. However I hear so many people trying to defend this guy behind free speech or something like that. He called a group of black women nappy headed ho's...I mean are the people defending him just waaaay too old to know what the terms he used imply? Try walking up to some random lady on the street and see what happens if you say that to them. Now take that and broadcast it all over the world about a group of young women who were just trying to play basketball. i just don't see how you can defend this moron

I will defend him.

It is his right to say whatever he wants.

It is his responsibility to accept the consequences of his actions.

Should he be fired, NO. Let his audience decide if he is worth listening too.

I look at it this way, if he was black and said it no one would care. If he were black and said something about white girls no one would care. However the press needs racial strife as much as the race warlords.

The whole situation turned into absolute silliness when Sharpton and Jackson became involved. Sorry, those two are lower than dirt and for either of them to claim offense at anyone's actions is repulsive.

I disagree. I think if he was black and called a team of white girls...let's say wasp crackers, that people would be jumping down his throat.

Look at Michael Irvin earlier this year. He said that Tony Romo was more athletic because one of his ancestors screwed a black slave. People blew up at that

 

[Accipiter22]

so basically ATOT is saying that it's ok because of the first ammendment to call a bunch of women Ho's? That this guy who has a history of that shouldn't be fired?


Okay, I challenge all of you that work in an office to do this: Find a black female colleague. Call her a nappy headed ho. When they're firing you, keep shouting about the first amendment and see what happens

 

[piasabird]

Imus makes money for his employer by saying outrageous things. So if his actions in the past were permitted by his employer, then the Employer has some culpability in this case. In the grand scheme of things we all say things at times that will offend someone. Get over it. If you have not offended anyone, then maybe you are not living.

 

[LLCOOLJ]

Originally posted by: Pabster
While I'm no Imus fan (personally can't stand the guy), I think this whole deal is ridiculous.

His comments were wrong. No question about that. But I'd put the charitable work Imus has done up against Sharpton and Jackson any friggin' day. Those two supposed "leaders" of the black community are the most divisive characters out there.

I bet if those two hadn't of been involved there wouldn't be such a backlash over this from the White Folks.

 

[Darkstar757]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
OK, I'm not going to debate about what got said so much, as at this point it's been done ad nauseum in OT. However I hear so many people trying to defend this guy behind free speech or something like that. He called a group of black women nappy headed ho's...I mean are the people defending him just waaaay too old to know what the terms he used imply? Try walking up to some random lady on the street and see what happens if you say that to them. Now take that and broadcast it all over the world about a group of young women who were just trying to play basketball. i just don't see how you can defend this moron

I will defend him.

It is his right to say whatever he wants.

It is his responsibility to accept the consequences of his actions.

Should he be fired, NO. Let his audience decide if he is worth listening too.

I look at it this way, if he was black and said it no one would care. If he were black and said something about white girls no one would care. However the press needs racial strife as much as the race warlords.

The whole situation turned into absolute silliness when Sharpton and Jackson became involved. Sorry, those two are lower than dirt and for either of them to claim offense at anyone's actions is repulsive.

You racist fool.


Tool BAG.

 

[Bird222]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I dislike Imus, and DO believe he's a racist (he has admittedly used the N word extensively in his private life),

Got a link to support this?

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: Accipiter22

Look at Michael Irvin earlier this year. He said that Tony Romo was more athletic because one of his ancestors screwed a black slave. People blew up at that

BS. That was forgot about in one day. Were there hour long press conferences on all major networks; CNN, MSNBC, etc??

Hell no

 

[dennilfloss]

Originally posted by: shira
When I say "ho" more than once, I find myself laughing.

Does that nake you a happy-headed bro?