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dmcowen674

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Hey, Nagin called New Orleans a "Chocolate City?

I don't see Sharpton or Jackson calling for his firing.

This kind of one way crap will start race riots again and they brought it on themselves.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Deudalus
So I'm confused.

You think he should be fired for saying it, or you think he shouldn't be allowed to say it legally.
I said it will depend on how his apology is received by those he offended and how it impacts his commercial viability. I don't have an opinion because I don't like his general schtick so I never listen to him, and I don't care enough to dig into how sincere he is.

With as much as there is in the world that does matter to me, Imus' future is somewhere near the bottom of my interest priorties.

Would you be less confused if I said it was Bush's or Clinton's fault? :laugh:
 

Gaard

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He should be able to...
He shouldn't be able to...
He can...
He can't....

Unless he breaks the law, it's all up to his employer.
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
I find him amusing. He attacks everyone equally. For instance, he once referred to a a very prominent reporter as a "Boner Nosed Beanie Headed Jew Boy".
People need to lighten up.

shudder I agree with IMC!!!!

I agree he does but I think he is a pompous arse.

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Harvey
I said it will depend on how his apology is received by those he offended and how it impacts his commercial viability.
And so it shall.
Advertisers skittish over Imus scandal, pull ads

By Sue Zeidler
Reuters
Tuesday, April 10, 2007; 8:17 PM

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Companies including Staples Inc. are pulling their advertisements from Don Imus' show due to the furor over the shock jock's on-air racial slur about the Rutgers University women's basketball team.

Imus has apologized for referring to members of the team as "nappy-headed hos" on his April 4 show. CBS Radio and NBC Universal, which broadcasts the show on MSNBC cable television, suspended the popular personality for two weeks, beginning next Monday.

But that was not enough to satisfy Staples, the world's largest office supplies retailer, which had recently sponsored the Imus MSNBC TV show.

"Based on recent comments that were made on the show, it prompted us to kind of take a look at our decision to advertise and as a result we decided to stop advertising on that program," Staples spokesman Paul Capelli said.

Bigelow Tea, a maker of specialty teas, also said it was reviewing its advertising commitments.

"We're looking at whether we would or would not sponsor future advertising or sponsorships," said spokeswoman Deborah Graves, noting Bigelow's current cycle of ads had already been completed.

An executive for a leading media-buying agency said various clients were asking to pull their commercials from Imus' show, a ratings heavyweight for both MSNBC and CBS, but declined to give names.

"He's put himself in a tenuous position. Clients have asked us to pull their advertising because it's controversial and offensive," said Dennis McGuire, vice president and regional broadcast director for Carat USA, a unit of Aegis Group Plc which manages more than $6 billion in U.S. billings.
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BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Robert Byrd used the "n" word three times on National TV. When is he going to resign?

Imus said something stupid, he apologized, he is paying the price, enough already

What if Tom Joyner, the AM radio guy, said the SAME thing. Would anyone care? Nope.

The odds of Tom Joyner calling the Rutgers Women's bball team 'nappy headed hos' is somewhere between zero and Christ becoming a founding member of a Jews for Jesus branch.

OT but . . . are there any linguists that can tell me how to spell 'ho' or its plural?
 

alien42

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i am of the opinion that what he said was stupid but it was blown way out of proportion and was more insulting than racist. kramers rant was stupid and racist.
 

Accipiter22

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Topic Title: How can anyone defend that jackass Imus?
Topic Summary: Just curious...

Because "jackass's" like Imus and I are protected under a little piece of paper called the Constitution of the United States.

Something you and your radical Republicans dismiss and trash.

I'm a liberal democrat. It has nothing to do with free speech, he attacked a group of people based on their ethnic background. I'm not talking about right to free speech arguments, I'm talking about people defending this scum bag saying what he said wasn't wrong or innapropriate. When you attack someone based on ethnicity it can and should be viewed as a threat.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Topic Title: How can anyone defend that jackass Imus?
Topic Summary: Just curious...

Because "jackass's" like Imus and I are protected under a little piece of paper called the Constitution of the United States.

Something you and your radical Republicans dismiss and trash.

I'm a liberal democrat. It has nothing to do with free speech, he attacked a group of people based on their ethnic background. I'm not talking about right to free speech arguments, I'm talking about people defending this scum bag saying what he said wasn't wrong or innapropriate.

When you attack someone based on ethnicity it can and should be viewed as a threat.

If you're going to play that wussy ass game then it better be both ways.

Nagin called New Orleans a "Chocolate City", where is the outrage for the white folk?

This one way "Pussification of America" will lead to race wars again.
 
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I'll defend him. What he said was rude and uncalled for, but his offense pales in comparison to those oppurtunists shouting racism and using it as an excuse to jump on him for TV face time.

If "nappy" was such a horribly racist term I seriously doubt this would be coming to a theatre near you under its current title.

Anyway, let this be a lesson to everyone, it's ALWAYS a bad idea to insult a woman's hair.
 

Luthien

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reverse racism simply because of the amount of talk about something so stupid
this is only going to create resentment on both sides

amazing with all that is going on in the world how much press this stupid ****** gets
 

mithrandir2001

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The whole Imus ordeal has become very long in the tooth. I'm bored of it, sorry, because the attention this is getting is excessive considering the misdeed's significance.

The Michael Richards incident was far more disturbing and I think that received less attention than this.
 

alisajid

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People need to lighten up. Imus insults everybody's ethnicity and religion without fail. He's said far worse about people from my background. More importantly, he's been contrite and apologized non-stop for the past few days.

His show needs to go on because it is the only one of its kind on the radio. His show may be the last bastion of national discourse on the air-waves. If he gets tossed for a stupid comment, then what will replace him? That jack-ass loser David Lee Roth?

Here's a question for any African American reader: outside of the Imus issue, how do you feel about Mr. Sharpton?
 

Deudalus

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Topic Title: How can anyone defend that jackass Imus?
Topic Summary: Just curious...

Because "jackass's" like Imus and I are protected under a little piece of paper called the Constitution of the United States.

Something you and your radical Republicans dismiss and trash.

I'm a liberal democrat. It has nothing to do with free speech, he attacked a group of people based on their ethnic background. I'm not talking about right to free speech arguments, I'm talking about people defending this scum bag saying what he said wasn't wrong or innapropriate.

When you attack someone based on ethnicity it can and should be viewed as a threat.

If you're going to play that wussy ass game then it better be both ways.

Nagin called New Orleans a "Chocolate City", where is the outrage for the white folk?

This one way "Pussification of America" will lead to race wars again.

Holy crap me agreeing with Dave.

World ending in 5, 4, 3, .....
 

Deudalus

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Originally posted by: Harvey

Would you be less confused if I said it was Bush's or Clinton's fault? :laugh:

No, I asked the question because it seemed like you were saying he shouldn't be able to legally say what he said.

My apologies.

 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Would you be less confused if I said it was Bush's or Clinton's fault? :laugh:
Didn't Clinton once call Monica a nappy headed hoe?

I shall have to look that quote up... ;)
 

johnnobts

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I'm just concerned about censorship in general. don't like Imus. He's a liberal. When he said to Sharpton, "I'm not some racist right-winger conservative," I took offense to that as a conservative (stereotyping all conservatives as racist). and for once i agree with bill maher: if this issue about don imus (one of the least listened to radio personalities, behind the great ones like rush, hannity, ingraham, etc) is the biggest, most important matter for the civil rights movement, then civil rights for blacks must be pretty good at this point.
 

daniel49

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since fcc is supposed to regulate broadcast decency the more of these shock Jocks they get off the airways the better.
 

theeedude

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Originally posted by: daniel49
since fcc is supposed to regulate broadcast decency the more of these shock Jocks they get off the airways the better.

For whom? You wanna get Imus off the air, change the channel.
I know, I know, won't someone PLEASE think of the CHILDREN, right?
 
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Imus was an idiot to say that. But I don't think he's a racist. He made an off the cuff remark. It was a really bad of the cuff remark... and I'm sure he went into the commercial break thinking "Oooo... I'm in trouble now" but I don't think he was intentionally trying to defame an entire race.

He was wrong. And Sharpton is just as wrong for making a crusade out of this.

This is another fine example of chasing victimhood. An idiot opens his mouth and the victim pimps come flying out of nowhere. If Al Sharpton has to point to Don Imus as an example of how unfair America is to black people... are things really that bad?

Imus needs to be punished. He's getting a two week suspention. (And for a guy like him, that is not a vacation) His audience will decide if he should be on the air from here on out.

But this is just a huge overreaction on all parties. I can't wait to see what the reaction is from the Rutgers BB team after they meet Don. That will the true base for any criticism on Don in the future. Not that Sharpton will eat his words... he still defends Tawana Brawley.
 
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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
He attacks everyone equally. For instance, he once referred to a a very prominent reporter as a "Boner Nosed Beanie Headed Jew Boy". People need to lighten up.
I disagree. He's broadcasting to millions of people over the public airwaves. He has no right to expect his kind of crap NOT to be taken as seriously and extremely offensive by many, and the more he succeeds in his popularity, the more it legitimizes the same kind of speech by others in public.

It's wrong, and it's much better that he gets called down for it. Then, we can get around to judging the relative value of how serious he was in what he said.

Yeah let's just destroy everyone who offends us. Nobody HAS to listen to him. He has excellent interviews with top people. He helps promote various music with studio concerts. He's funny. In this case he brought the wrath of the hypocritical African-American Army down on himself. You think Sharpton and Jackson have never said outrageous things about other races? We should have their voices choked off too, right?
 
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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Topic Title: How can anyone defend that jackass Imus?
Topic Summary: Just curious...

Because "jackass's" like Imus and I are protected under a little piece of paper called the Constitution of the United States.

Something you and your radical Republicans dismiss and trash.

I thought Al Sharpton was a democrat??

Isn`t he demanding that IMUS be fired?
Correct me if I am wrong...

Yeah, the Democratic tent is just a BIT more diverse than the Republican tent. You can be a Democrat AND a hypocrite and an asshat at the same time. Democrats don't move in lock step. That's not a bad thing, in case you were wondering.
 
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Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
He attacks everyone equally. For instance, he once referred to a a very prominent reporter as a "Boner Nosed Beanie Headed Jew Boy". People need to lighten up.
I disagree. He's broadcasting to millions of people over the public airwaves. He has no right to expect his kind of crap NOT to be taken as seriously and extremely offensive by many, and the more he succeeds in his popularity, the more it legitimizes the same kind of speech by others in public.

It's wrong, and it's much better that he gets called down for it. Then, we can get around to judging the relative value of how serious he was in what he said.

Yeah let's just destroy everyone who offends us. Nobody HAS to listen to him. He has excellent interviews with top people. He helps promote various music with studio concerts. He's funny. In this case he brought the wrath of the hypocritical African-American Army down on himself. You think Sharpton and Jackson have never said outrageous things about other races? We should have their voices choked off too, right?

Why are agreeing so much lately? Who are you and what have you done with International Machine Consortium? :p
 

compuwiz1

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Hey, look at some of the stuff Pat Robertson has spewed. All 4, meaning Imus, Sharpton, Jackson, and Robertson, have some real common ground. All of them are absolute pieces of sh1t.
Seems there are few honorable men in positions of leadership these days. This country is in a terrible state of decay.

...and no, this should not be news to anyone here. :(
 

imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
OK, I'm not going to debate about what got said so much, as at this point it's been done ad nauseum in OT. However I hear so many people trying to defend this guy behind free speech or something like that. He called a group of black women nappy headed ho's...I mean are the people defending him just waaaay too old to know what the terms he used imply? Try walking up to some random lady on the street and see what happens if you say that to them. Now take that and broadcast it all over the world about a group of young women who were just trying to play basketball. i just don't see how you can defend this moron

I will defend him.

It is his right to say whatever he wants.

It is his responsibility to accept the consequences of his actions.

Should he be fired, NO. Let his audience decide if he is worth listening too.

I look at it this way, if he was black and said it no one would care. If he were black and said something about white girls no one would care. However the press needs racial strife as much as the race warlords.

The whole situation turned into absolute silliness when Sharpton and Jackson became involved. Sorry, those two are lower than dirt and for either of them to claim offense at anyone's actions is repulsive.