? How best to manually trim SSD in Win XP ?

[OlafSicky]

Hello I'm in the market for an ssd on xp (mainly because i want a quiet pc). i was going to ask about how the V+100 drive compared...but saw someone mentioned it

seems like a good investment ? tbh my 2 main priorities are noise level, and how long the drive will last, speed isnt a big issue

saw this link, for partition alignment...? that info plus v+100 plus xp a reasonable combo ?

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/f...y-Doc-folder-move-and-Print-Spooler-on-Vertex

If you mean kingston v+100 I have been using on on xp for over a year and it works great.

 

[quartz0]

thanks yes Kingston - have you got any partition alignment information procedures you used at all ? i get the idea the alignment can be kind of critical for lots of reasons (alignment under xp)

 

[OlafSicky]

I formated the disk in win 7 than just installed xp

 

[ssnake51]

I formated the disk in win 7 than just installed xp

That sounds like a good idea.

So if I decide to upgrade my laptop with XP on it, I can just pop the ssd into my Win 7 machine, partition and format it and then put it in the laptop and install XP. No need to manually align the partition?

 

[razel]

The most important part of the aligning the partition is that Win7 creates it. So when you pop that SSD into a machine running Win7, make sure any existing partitions (or volumes) are deleted and you create a new one. This is done easiest with 'Disk Management.'

 

[rekkoo]

Omg, guys. I read your posts and I learned nothing but platitudes. "TRIM is OS depended" blah, blah, blah, "Win7 is required if you want to use TRIM" blah, blah, blah... It's just stupid - what is OS basically? Piece of software, right? So what is so magic in Win7 that only OS can TRIM drive? Why someone can't write program that works without magic operating system? Oh, I forgot - someone can (Intel, Samsung) but that producers want to sell more their own SSD drives, so they software is limited to works on Intel/Samsung SSD only.

So, no - Win7 is not required to TRIM works, but for now is the only system (program) that supports TRIM, until someone made universal tool (or crack existing Intel software).

 

[Coup27]

We don't need another tweakboy thank you.

 

[bryanW1995]

NVM - nothing to see here...

 

[rekkoo]

We don't need another tweakboy thank you.

"We"? Sounds really scarry if someone call himself "we". "God complex" perhaps?

Thank you, boy.

 

[Coup27]

"We" as in "the forum".

 

[McLovin]

"We"? Sounds really scarry if someone call himself "we". "God complex" perhaps?

Thank you, boy.

trololololololol



IMO, best drives hands down are Intel drives. They cost more than the rest, but have the best warranties (3 or 5 years depending on the model) and the also have the SSD Toolbox, as mentioned previously, that will automatically TRIM your SSD in XP, as long as you set the schedule.

Until any other SSD manufacturer can offer what I stated above, I see no reason to get anything else.

Also, I thought Kingston SSD's were re-branded Intel drives or was that only the 1st and 2nd generation SSDs'?

 

[Coup27]

IMO, best drives hands down are Intel drives. They cost more than the rest, but have the best warranties (3 or 5 years depending on the model) and the also have the SSD Toolbox, as mentioned previously, that will automatically TRIM your SSD in XP, as long as you set the schedule.

Until any other SSD manufacturer can offer what I stated above, I see no reason to get anything else.

Also, I thought Kingston SSD's were re-branded Intel drives or was that only the 1st and 2nd generation SSDs'?

Samsung drives offer a toolbox with XP TRIM functionality and a 3 year warranty. They also have an arguably better reliability record against Intels 320 series and their SF based drives.

Kingston did offer a drive which was Intel in disguise but that relationship happened around the same time as the X25-V and it didn't last very long. From what I read Kingston wanted to sell the drive for less than Intel were prepared to go.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Kingston did offer a drive which was Intel in disguise but that relationship happened around the same time as the X25-V and it didn't last very long. From what I read Kingston wanted to sell the drive for less than Intel were prepared to go.

Intel OEM'ed the drives for Kingston, but when it came time to implement TRIM, Intel released firmware upgrades for their own X25-V drives, but left Kingston high and dry.

So Kingston stopped reselling Intel drives.

 

[Coup27]

Yeah but didnt Kingston want TRIM firmware for silly money? They wanted to be able to sell the drive for less than Intel wanted to sell it for. Intels own drive was a lot higher than Kingstons target price.

I am sure AT did a piece on it. However I'm off before I fall sleep in my seat.

 

[1Bit2Bite]

due to very agressive Trim/GC capability from 1.4 firmware versions and beyond. So don't knock something if you haven't tried it.

Worrying about eating into the Petabyte's(do the math) write capability of an SSD is just silly

These things are like a big giant pack of fireworks. I say.. "buy em', use em', burn em'". :thumbsup:

That's what I want to do....>>> Just light the whole works on fire...BOOM

Intel PBL915 MOBO Intel P4 running at 3.4 Ghz 4 Mb Ram running at 533Mz built 2006. Just added a Corsair Neutron SATA III 6Gb/s... Windows loads in 3 seconds now, no trim, no garbage collection, no Magicians doing anything, drive runs like a champ.

P.S., my drive did not come with '1's and 0's'

 

[fb241]

If you have an SSD on an old Windows XP machine you can just trim it on a newer machine.

Some old motherboards like mine the toolboxs do not even see the SSD drive to trim it. Something about AMD Marvell SATA1 ports. The machine runs fine, with XP on the SSD, but the fancy trim tools from Intel and Samsung don't see the drives on this mobo to trim it.

My solution is to just take the SSD drive out of the old WinXp mobo and attach it externally to a computer that will see the drive and trim it. You can use the toolboxes from Intel, Samsung or OCZ to manually trim it. No need to reformat it every time.

I have quick thumb screws on my desktop case and just use one side to attached the SSD in the desktop with thumb screws. In a few seconds it is out of my desktop and hooked up externally to another computer to trim.

Another option because Windows XP migration is so fast is to just re migrate XP from your HDD to the SSD when the SSD slows down. Migration depending on drive size is under 30 minutes and for my XP machines about 10 minutes. You can swap the HDD and the SSD in the bios for booting and may not have to change anything internally especially if migrating from an IDE HDD.

 

[Shmee]

Whats with the 1 year bumps to this thread? Feel free to start a new thread instead.