How bad is heroin use in your city?

Mai72

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I went to the store last night. When I walked back to my car I noticed little blue and red baggies scattered next to my car tire. Picked one up, took it to the gas attendant and he told me it was heroin. Supposedly, people pull into the lot to shoot and snort heroin. Smoking crack is another popular thing they do often.

I live at the shore. The area is middle class. Not wealthy, but not poor either. I was surprised to find that heroin is a big issue in my area. We had a few overdose deaths recently and the people doing this stuff are all under 25. Sad really.
 

uclaLabrat

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Kind of making a comeback in the illicit drug world, people got hooked on oxy or other prescription opioids, and when they can't get any more refills, they switch to heroin.
 

TheGardener

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A year ago I was watching TV and saw my next door neighbor's mug shot on the 48 inch screen. The police broke down her door looking for her son and drugs. Her son was arrested as well. Police said he was the head of a local drug gang. She was a worked at a drug rehab and a hospital. Good places to find customers.

Use to be a good neighborhood, but I want to move now.
 

Jeeebus

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How the hell would I know? I don't live in a shithole and I don't go around picking up baggies on the floor of gas stations.
 

natto fire

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I know it has gotten worse in the town I grew up in, but rednecks gonna redneck. I got out of there when I realized I had no desire to be a baby-daddy, missing teeth, or just wrapped up in small town living.
 

MongGrel

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I went to the store last night. When I walked back to my car I noticed little blue and red baggies scattered next to my car tire. Picked one up, took it to the gas attendant and he told me it was heroin. Supposedly, people pull into the lot to shoot and snort heroin. Smoking crack is another popular thing they do often.

I live at the shore. The area is middle class. Not wealthy, but not poor either. I was surprised to find that heroin is a big issue in my area. We had a few overdose deaths recently and the people doing this stuff are all under 25. Sad really.

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mnewsham

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Kind of making a comeback in the illicit drug world, people got hooked on oxy or other prescription opioids, and when they can't get any more refills, they switch to heroin.

Its also making a come back because the cartels are bringing in more of the harder drugs, pot being legalized in several states and the increasing legalization movement has sadly encouraged the harder drugs to be pushed harder.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Heroin is a major epidemic all over the USA now, all areas, all demographics, all income levels. It's dirt cheap and easy to score. People get hooked on Oxy or Vicodin, their supply dries up and they turn to heroin because its available. 25 years ago heroin was nowhere, it was the drug of the truly lost, the hardcore junkie that was beyond hope. All the functioning drug users did pot, coke, speed. Now heroin is in that class, it's used by middle class people who have jobs and can function in society.
 

MongGrel

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Its also making a come back because the cartels are bringing in more of the harder drugs, pot being legalized in several states and the increasing legalization movement has sadly encouraged the harder drugs to be pushed harder.

Or you could just legalize ever thing these days.

True Darwinism in action, but that would wipe out the need for the so many government supported jobs etc to begin with.

I'm starting to sound like a few Psychos on here, but really even the drug war has gotten so out of shape these days just legalizing everything would pretty much pull the rug out from under anyone shipping crap to begin with.

Large pharma wouldn't like that at all, lots of people like the DEA, CIA etc wouldn't like it, the cartels wouldn't like it, I guess many people wouldn't.

Supply and demand, it is what it is and makes the whole thing viable.

Hell, I'm surprised what I can just walk into a local convenience store these days and is sold without FDA regulation.
 

Mai72

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Heroin is a major epidemic all over the USA now, all areas, all demographics, all income levels. It's dirt cheap and easy to score. People get hooked on Oxy or Vicodin, their supply dries up and they turn to heroin because its available. 25 years ago heroin was nowhere, it was the drug of the truly lost, the hardcore junkie that was beyond hope. All the functioning drug users did pot, coke, speed. Now heroin is in that class, it's used by middle class people who have jobs and can function in society.


That's some scary sh*t right there. I know herion use has changed over the years, but when I think of herion users I still think of the person whose down on his luck. But, people who are able to shoot up and still function normally. I thought that was impossible.
 

mnewsham

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Or you could just legalize ever thing these days.
No arguments from me, preaching to the choir. Legalization would lead to cleaner drugs and appropriate dosage information being widely available, pair this with access to clean needles or pipes and what not, you get yourself safer users, less overdoses, less abuse, and less addiction. Then you can pour money into addiction treatment programs instead of locking these people up and actually work on getting them the help they need.
 

BUTCH1

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Its also making a come back because the cartels are bringing in more of the harder drugs, pot being legalized in several states and the increasing legalization movement has sadly encouraged the harder drugs to be pushed harder.

What a load of crap. I grew up smoking weed but never had any desire to jam a needle full of heroin in my arm. I doubt the places that sell weed (were it's legal to) try and get their customers to "try" heroin. At the exorbitant prices they sell weed for why would they chase away their cash cow and risk decades in jail.
 

mnewsham

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What a load of crap. I grew up smoking weed but never had any desire to jam a needle full of heroin in my arm. I doubt the places that sell weed (were it's legal to) try and get their customers to "try" heroin. At the exorbitant prices they sell weed for why would they chase away their cash cow and risk decades in jail.
What are you talking about? No one said the pot smokers are the ones they are pushing the harder drugs to, but since it is legal now the cartels have NO reason to bring it into the US, it's already being grown here, and it's higher quality than what was being brought in from mexico. I never said smoking weed would make you jam a needle into your arm, hell I am a daily pot smoker.
 

MongGrel

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Well the first step is admitting you have a problem. There is help out there...

Get help before you become one of them!

Just bustin your chops man hehe.

:biggrin:

Have done many things in the past decades ago, heroin was not one of them.
 
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TeeJay1952

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Legalize heroin but make every 20th load a hot shot. Problem dwindles as folks remove themselves from Social Security.
 

john3850

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In 1970 I was doing dope 3x a day just to fuction and work.
I worked my entire life have two daughters one is a cop and one a teacher.
The last time I did heroin was 1973 to get rid of xmas hangover.
I have no criminal records
All my good friends died young from dope.
I blame the government for not stopping the flow of dugs.
 

mmntech

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We don't hear much about needle drugs here in Toronto lately. Prescription drugs are the big problem these days. Vancouver is really bad for heroin though.