How bad is heroin use in your city?

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It's a big problem in my area, middle class small town.

Main problem is that the problem gets pushed under the rugged and hushed cause nobody wants to acknowledge it. It's been a big problem at the high school, but school officials and admins are in deny/deny/deny mode.

Guess they learned this from our political structure.
 

unokitty

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In the United States, prescription drug overdoses kill more than 15,000 people and result in 1.2 million emergency room visits each year. Abuse of these medications is deadlier than cocaine and heroin combined.
Heroin gets the headlines. Prescription drugs get the body count.

Uno
 

Imp

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Heroin gets the headlines. Prescription drugs get the body count.

Uno

Organized crime and drug dens need more lobbyists.

No clue on drugs, but trouble gambling is probably bad. Know one person who owes gambling debts all over the neighborhood.
 

esquared

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I don't live here but I read about this heroin overdose, several days ago. This is one of a growing number of obituaries that are stating the heroin overdose as the cause of death.


http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/parents-hope-daughters-obituary-sends-a-message/nnSy8/

Here is another one from earlier this year
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/...-overdose-daughter-molly-parks_n_7123336.html


The stats are alarming. (bottom of the first linked, article)
56: Heroin-related deaths first six months of 2014 in Butler County

85: Heroin-related deaths first six months of 2015 in Butler County

103: Heroin-related deaths for 2014 in Butler County

170: Projected heroin-related deaths for 2015 in Butler County

There are approximately 371, 000 people in the county
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler_County,_Ohio


That's a lot of fatal overdoses for a county of that population.
 
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BUTCH1

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What are you talking about? No one said the pot smokers are the ones they are pushing the harder drugs to, but since it is legal now the cartels have NO reason to bring it into the US, it's already being grown here, and it's higher quality than what was being brought in from mexico. I never said smoking weed would make you jam a needle into your arm, hell I am a daily pot smoker.

This is from your post,
" pot being legalized in several states and the increasing legalization movement has sadly encouraged the harder drugs to be pushed harder."

What's REALLY pushing the increase of heroin traffic is the tightening of laws obtaining prescription painkillers, in FL we had dozens of "pill mills" around the state because we were the only state in the SE without a computer database to see if people were "Dr. shopping". Folks came in here all the way from the midwest and NE because it was so easy to get oxycodone or roxycodone. Now that the pill mills are shut down and a database is in place those users who got addicted to easy to find and cheap oxy now find them unavailable or extraordinarily expensive so a lot turned to heroin.
 

Ns1

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sitting at a starbucks and a dude sat down across from me - first thing I noticed was his 90's non-flip style phone. second thing I noticed were the track marks in his arms.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
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I don't live here but I read about this heroin overdose, several days ago. This is one of a growing number of obituaries that are stating the heroin overdose as the cause of death.


http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/parents-hope-daughters-obituary-sends-a-message/nnSy8/

Here is another one from earlier this year
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/...-overdose-daughter-molly-parks_n_7123336.html


The stats are alarming. (bottom of the first linked, article)
56: Heroin-related deaths first six months of 2014 in Butler County

85: Heroin-related deaths first six months of 2015 in Butler County

103: Heroin-related deaths for 2014 in Butler County

170: Projected heroin-related deaths for 2015 in Butler County

There are approximately 371, 000 people in the county
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler_County,_Ohio


That's a lot of fatal overdoes for a county of that population.

Most of the deaths are due to the wildly varying strengths of street heroin, one might think they are injecting/snorting/smoking enough to get the normal high only to realize too late that the batch they bought had not been "stepped on",(mixed to make weaker for extra profit) and they wind up accidentally OD'ing. Some might OD on purpose as well as a means of suicide seeing no way out of their situation and the depression and desperation that goes along with it. Way back in '01 I experimented with cocaine for a few months, I had paid my car off and it was everywhere around the workplace. I started off buying a gram on payday but that eventually turned into an 8-ball. All along the strength varied quite a bit until the last time I used it was pure and uncut, I did a line and thought my heart was going to pop out of my chest, that was it, I flushed the rest down the crapper and never used it again. I'm glad that actually happened, I remember I was high on cocaine on a Saturday and thought to myself "damm, if you gave someone enough coke they could have a job shoveling pig-shit and they would think it blissful". Scary stuff.
 

Ns1

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I remember I was high on cocaine on a Saturday and thought to myself "damm, if you gave someone enough coke they could have a job shoveling pig-shit and they would think it blissful". Awesome stuff.

ftfy
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
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sitting at a starbucks and a dude sat down across from me - first thing I noticed was his 90's non-flip style phone. second thing I noticed were the track marks in his arms.

I use a cheap $25 flip-phone by choice, it runs for 3 days without needing recharge, is nearly indestructible and if it goes for a swim I just buy another $25 phone. I have a Nexus 7 that I keep at the house as my "crapper companion" LOL..
 

Mai72

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What city do you live in Mai?

I live in North Wildwood. It's a resort island in New Jersey.

We have 50 themed motels. Many people who vacation here are from the Philadelphia area, and are Irish/Italian.

shore1.jpg
 

Imp

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sitting at a starbucks and a dude sat down across from me - first thing I noticed was his 90's non-flip style phone. second thing I noticed were the track marks in his arms.

Totally circumstantial evidence.

For all you know, he could be a cutter and needed a burner phone to sell pot.
 

Leyawiin

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Almost nil. Its meth, oxycodone and weed in Whitetrashville,, Northern California.
 

HeXen

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Meth is worse in my city. But of course they are often more obvious just by looking at them.

Oxicotin(spelling) is the gateway drug to heroin.

If you have an addictive personality then everything is a gateway. I've done Oxy's before and never once had a desire to do any particular drug. Typically people will choose a particular drug for the particular high they prefer, the problem comes when they can't stop or just don't want to due to a complete lack of discipline.

Then again, some people are addicted to donuts, coffee or a myriad of other consuming products without thinking without realizing that it can be just as bad as a drug addiction because too much of most anything can be very bad for you. So where Meth rots your teeth, donuts can too, along with your ability to produce insulin or other harmful effects.

Let's not be hypocrites here, probably most of us have some kind of addiction that's not very healthy which makes us no better than any other addict.
 

Mai72

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Meth is worse in my city. But of course they are often more obvious just by looking at them.



If you have an addictive personality then everything is a gateway. I've done Oxy's before and never once had a desire to do any particular drug. Typically people will choose a particular drug for the particular high they prefer, the problem comes when they can't stop or just don't want to due to a complete lack of discipline.

Then again, some people are addicted to donuts, coffee or a myriad of other consuming products without thinking without realizing that it can be just as bad as a drug addiction because too much of most anything can be very bad for you. So where Meth rots your teeth, donuts can too, along with your ability to produce insulin or other harmful effects.

Let's not be hypocrites here, probably most of us have some kind of addiction that's not very healthy which makes us no better than any other addict.

A lot of guys are supposedly addicted to porn and video games. :(
 

88keys

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I once read an article stating that the town/small city or whatever is like the central hub for heroin dealers in the surrounding major cities like Baltimore, Harrisburg, Philadelphia, and York.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Most of the deaths are due to the wildly varying strengths of street heroin, one might think they are injecting/snorting/smoking enough to get the normal high only to realize too late that the batch they bought had not been "stepped on",(mixed to make weaker for extra profit) and they wind up accidentally OD'ing. Some might OD on purpose as well as a means of suicide seeing no way out of their situation and the depression and desperation that goes along with it. Way back in '01 I experimented with cocaine for a few months, I had paid my car off and it was everywhere around the workplace. I started off buying a gram on payday but that eventually turned into an 8-ball. All along the strength varied quite a bit until the last time I used it was pure and uncut, I did a line and thought my heart was going to pop out of my chest, that was it, I flushed the rest down the crapper and never used it again. I'm glad that actually happened, I remember I was high on cocaine on a Saturday and thought to myself "damm, if you gave someone enough coke they could have a job shoveling pig-shit and they would think it blissful". Scary stuff.

What kind of workplace is this? Are the rumors of Wall Street executive coke-fueled orgies true?