How bad (content wise) is Grand Theft Auto 3?

[CrackRabbit]

Forget GTA 3, Vice City is where it is at.
Much better story, more funny, better graphics, and the music selection was top notch.
As for the swearing, there was some, I didn't notice it but it has been a while since I played it.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Mandin62
what i dont understand is why is it so wrong for someone to object to swear words? Isnt that a choice that you should be able to make with out hindering your ability to enjoy a form of entertainment? Just because we are adults doesnt mean that we have to listen to garbage all the time. yes we can "handle it" but does that mean we should have to? the comments by schizoid and legoman are prime examples ignorance and narrow mindedness. Just because you can say it doesnt mean you need to. I am all for free speech, but that doesnt meant that some one should be treated like you guys are treating him. He doesnt want to hear it big deal. its like you are taking that as some personal attack. like it is going to affect you in some way. well it isnt so stop being assholes and help the man make an informed decision. And yeah i think that was used tastefully.

Also i think what Prey did was a good option. One of the setting for the game was to turn profanity on or off. would it be so hard for more devs to do this. granted i kept it on but it is still a nice thought. and it makes the game more accessible to people who might not want that type of content. Maybe the industry could get some people off of its back if it offered toned down audio and gore with just the simple check of a box in its setting. I remember this used to be the case in several older games. Do we really need to just try and shock and disturb people all the time? i dont think so. sometimes people want to be able to enjoy and not be offended by it.

It's because they're just words. Nothing makes them special except your perception, and most of us have made it to the point where we realize that they're just words and don't have to have a bad meaning associated with them. Some say it's immature to swear, but I say it's immature to arbitrarily decide that some words are bad and others are not.

It'd be like if you objected to the word "pineapple" or "picture." Go pineapple all over yourself!

To me, choosing to not experience a game that millions of people have loved would be less mature than swearing with every other word. Have you ever stopped to consider that while you consider people like

the comments by schizoid and legoman are prime examples ignorance and narrow mindedness

Have you stopped to consider that you are being ignorant and closed narrow minded yourself?

I don't see it as a personal attack that you or others are offended by swear words, I just can't stand hypocrisy is all. If you don't like swear words you're free to not use them, and you're free to seek out forms of entertainment where they are not found. However, you are being ignorant and closed-minded by doing so and I feel that should be pointed out to you.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Forget GTA 3, Vice City is where it is at.
Much better story, more funny, better graphics, and the music selection was top notch.
As for the swearing, there was some, I didn't notice it but it has been a while since I played it.

Actually, I thought Vice City was the worst of the series. San Andreas > GTA3 > GTA2 > GTA1 > Vicy City
(okay, I never played that weird London expansion or the Libery City / Vice City Stories)

I dislike the 80s so much that I really can't get into Vice City...

Yes, the graphics were better (not by much, and not as good as SA). Yes, the music selection was good. Yeah, it had a better story than GTA3 (not by much, again). Regardless, the game itself just didn't feel as fun. Something about it just irked me the wrong way.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: ObiDon

Originally posted by: ThetechI'm trying to check it out and as part of doing so I decided to ask other gamers about it, rather than listen to Jack Thompson (Or whatever his name is). I can "handle" bad language, it's just that I don't like it used in such a distastefull manner like in Gta 1.

what was distasteful about the language in gta1? i've never played it so i have no frame of reference.

you might want to avoid scarface, then. it's a pretty good gta-style game, but it has more than it's fair share of frivolous profanity. of course, what else would you expect from tony montana?

I saw the movie Scarface, it was amusing, I actually found it comical

I'd have to dig up some of the text examples of GTA maybe I'm wrong considering it's been so long, but I thought GTA 2 was alot "cleaner" lol. As far as 1 went I recall a lot of non-sensical cursing that just stood out alot in parts of the game.

The hooker thing is why I avoided GTA 3 in the first place, but then after reading about it recently I realized just what I read, that picking up hookers was optional and so was killing them. I thought to myself well duh? why didn't I realize that?

Coincidentally, picking up hookers is like the third mission in the storyline Naturally you're supposed to be PROTECTING them.

If you thought the cursing in GTA2 was alright, then you probably won't have a problem with any of the other GTA games. Most of the dialogue is clean enough.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Imp
Aside from violence and mild langauge, both of which I have no issue with, there's the hooker in car thing. If anything, it's the hooker thing (thank you US media?) that makes GTA bad, everything else is pretty standard.

The thing is, I don't remember being able to pick up hookers in Vice City or SA... I remember doing it once in GTA3 because there are a ton of them right outside of the first place where you get missions. Otherwise, I'm not sure if you can even do it in the other games. Regardless, the media needs SOMETHING to bitch about and GTA4 will not escape.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
The thing is, I don't remember being able to pick up hookers in Vice City or SA... I remember doing it once in GTA3 because there are a ton of them right outside of the first place where you get missions. Otherwise, I'm not sure if you can even do it in the other games. Regardless, the media needs SOMETHING to bitch about and GTA4 will not escape.

I think it was possible in VC but was replaced by the girlfriends in SA. Not 100% sure since I never really searched them out.

 

[ja1484]

Originally posted by: Thetech


I've played GTA 1 and 2, I didn't like GTA 1 because I thought the language was very rough,

Dude...just...don't.

Originally posted by: Mandin62
what i dont understand is why is it so wrong for someone to object to swear words? Isnt that a choice that you should be able to make with out hindering your ability to enjoy a form of entertainment? Just because we are adults doesnt mean that we have to listen to garbage all the time. yes we can "handle it" but does that mean we should have to? the comments by schizoid and legoman are prime examples ignorance and narrow mindedness. Just because you can say it doesnt mean you need to. I am all for free speech, but that doesnt meant that some one should be treated like you guys are treating him. He doesnt want to hear it big deal. its like you are taking that as some personal attack. like it is going to affect you in some way. well it isnt so stop being assholes and help the man make an informed decision. And yeah i think that was used tastefully.

Also i think what Prey did was a good option. One of the setting for the game was to turn profanity on or off. would it be so hard for more devs to do this. granted i kept it on but it is still a nice thought. and it makes the game more accessible to people who might not want that type of content. Maybe the industry could get some people off of its back if it offered toned down audio and gore with just the simple check of a box in its setting. I remember this used to be the case in several older games. Do we really need to just try and shock and disturb people all the time? i dont think so. sometimes people want to be able to enjoy and not be offended by it.

It's the most ridiculous thing I can think of to have a position on this "issue". Words were meant to be used. The idea of "bad" words has to be one of the most ridiculous social customs ever, instituted of course by The Church (who else?) back in The Day.

"Life sucks, get a fucking helmet."
- Leary

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

The language in GTA 3 is mild compared with San Andreas

 

[Thetech]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: ObiDon

Originally posted by: ThetechI'm trying to check it out and as part of doing so I decided to ask other gamers about it, rather than listen to Jack Thompson (Or whatever his name is). I can "handle" bad language, it's just that I don't like it used in such a distastefull manner like in Gta 1.

what was distasteful about the language in gta1? i've never played it so i have no frame of reference.

you might want to avoid scarface, then. it's a pretty good gta-style game, but it has more than it's fair share of frivolous profanity. of course, what else would you expect from tony montana?

I saw the movie Scarface, it was amusing, I actually found it comical

I'd have to dig up some of the text examples of GTA maybe I'm wrong considering it's been so long, but I thought GTA 2 was alot "cleaner" lol. As far as 1 went I recall a lot of non-sensical cursing that just stood out alot in parts of the game.

The hooker thing is why I avoided GTA 3 in the first place, but then after reading about it recently I realized just what I read, that picking up hookers was optional and so was killing them. I thought to myself well duh? why didn't I realize that?

Coincidentally, picking up hookers is like the third mission in the storyline Naturally you're supposed to be PROTECTING them.

If you thought the cursing in GTA2 was alright, then you probably won't have a problem with any of the other GTA games. Most of the dialogue is clean enough.

Awesome... Thanks for giving me usefull information.

As far as some of the others go here, most of you act like I just came in here to BASH the game series, and came to complain about the cursing, if you PAID ATTENTION to what I've said it would all make sense to you.

 

[Thetech]

Originally posted by: Soviet

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: VashHT
To a lot of people excessive swearing makes dialog sound incredibly stupid, so its not like he can't take swearing, it just sounds stupid to him, wtf is there to "man up" about hes not crying about it.

Exactly! :thumbsup: , It's not like I go, OMG the language is making my ears bleed, it's just like you said, this seems really really stupid. As far as the term "man up" goes :roll: :laugh:

Then go read a book or watch a movie, leave mindless carjacking and killing to the rest of us.

Of course! I'll go watch Scarface again!

I DID NOT SAY I had a problem with all cursing, it all depends on how it's used that's all, if you can't answer the question I asked in my first post than go troll somewhere else

 

[VashHT]

Yeah I don't see why all these people are going off about it. It's funny how they tell you not to get worked up over swears, and that they're just words but then they get all defensive about it when that wasn't even what you were saying.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: Soviet

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: VashHT
To a lot of people excessive swearing makes dialog sound incredibly stupid, so its not like he can't take swearing, it just sounds stupid to him, wtf is there to "man up" about hes not crying about it.

Exactly! :thumbsup: , It's not like I go, OMG the language is making my ears bleed, it's just like you said, this seems really really stupid. As far as the term "man up" goes :roll: :laugh:

Then go read a book or watch a movie, leave mindless carjacking and killing to the rest of us.

Of course! I'll go watch Scarface again!

I DID NOT SAY I had a problem with all cursing, it all depends on how it's used that's all, if you can't answer the question I asked in my first post than go troll somewhere else

The fact that it's possible for you to take issue with any cursing used in any way in a game where you can decapitate people with machetes shows your priority system is really interesting.

"Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words!" South Park BL&U

 

[Thetech]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: Soviet

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: VashHT
To a lot of people excessive swearing makes dialog sound incredibly stupid, so its not like he can't take swearing, it just sounds stupid to him, wtf is there to "man up" about hes not crying about it.

Exactly! :thumbsup: , It's not like I go, OMG the language is making my ears bleed, it's just like you said, this seems really really stupid. As far as the term "man up" goes :roll: :laugh:

Then go read a book or watch a movie, leave mindless carjacking and killing to the rest of us.

Of course! I'll go watch Scarface again!

I DID NOT SAY I had a problem with all cursing, it all depends on how it's used that's all, if you can't answer the question I asked in my first post than go troll somewhere else

The fact that it's possible for you to take issue with any cursing used in any way in a game where you can decapitate people with machetes shows your priority system is really interesting.

"Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words!" South Park BL&U

@VashAT thanks for paying attention, as you can see though SirJonk has not, and I quote again "As long as people don't say any naughty words!" *ahem* Please for those of you who have poor comprehension I did not object to any and all use of bad language. I swear this post has brought out all of the GTA Zealots. I suppose they saw this as a call to arms.

I just wanted details as to the content of the game, that's all. It's not like I said oh my god this game is so bad that no one should play it.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: Soviet

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: VashHT
To a lot of people excessive swearing makes dialog sound incredibly stupid, so its not like he can't take swearing, it just sounds stupid to him, wtf is there to "man up" about hes not crying about it.

Exactly! :thumbsup: , It's not like I go, OMG the language is making my ears bleed, it's just like you said, this seems really really stupid. As far as the term "man up" goes :roll: :laugh:

Then go read a book or watch a movie, leave mindless carjacking and killing to the rest of us.

Of course! I'll go watch Scarface again!

I DID NOT SAY I had a problem with all cursing, it all depends on how it's used that's all, if you can't answer the question I asked in my first post than go troll somewhere else

The fact that it's possible for you to take issue with any cursing used in any way in a game where you can decapitate people with machetes shows your priority system is really interesting.

"Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words!" South Park BL&U

Lol!! Excellent analogy haha. That was a great movie.

 

[VashHT]

You guys need to learn to read for comprehension, he doesn't mind swearing as long as it doesn't sound like it was thrown in for the hell of it. You guys are idiots, learn to read and get off it he isn't saying anything about banning swearing or anything remotely close to it.

 

[Thetech]

I played it at my friends buddy's house, I thought it was ok, I had no objections to the content, but I didn't think the game play was that great.
The first thing I thought was they certainly made this game for a console (control wise).
I didn't like how it had to be set to classic mode to have the auto target system on, It's hard as hell to have a shootout with it off.
And I thought the movement and combat was kinda *clunky*.

Did the later one's improve upon this, and correct what I thought were flaws?
I didn't have time to try vice city, and my friends bud didn't have SA.

 

[Eeezee]

I found that having a shootoff in the PC version was considerably easier, since you're practically playing a FPS at that point. I hate the autotargeter

Movement and combat are definitely kind of clunky.

By the time SA rolled around they had improved combat enough to make it easy and fun, and the movement doesn't feel clunky at all. Jetpack + UZI = win

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: VashHT
You guys need to learn to read for comprehension, he doesn't mind swearing as long as it doesn't sound like it was thrown in for the hell of it. You guys are idiots, learn to read and get off it he isn't saying anything about banning swearing or anything remotely close to it.

Originally posted by: VashHT
Yeah I don't see why all these people are going off about it. It's funny how they tell you not to get worked up over swears, and that they're just words but then they get all defensive about it when that wasn't even what you were saying.

Do you often go into posts and post the same thing multiple times? It's annoying.

 

[QueBert]

Scarface The Game owns GTA, playing as Tony Montana > anything Rock Star can come up with. language wise Scarface is more vulgar. Oh and you get to sell Cocaine, a shame they didn't stay true to the movie and let you actually sniff it in the game.

I never finished that game I should go fire it up and kill some police.

 

[Thetech]

Originally posted by: QueBert
Scarface The Game owns GTA, playing as Tony Montana > anything Rock Star can come up with. language wise Scarface is more vulgar. Oh and you get to sell Cocaine, a shame they didn't stay true to the movie and let you actually sniff it in the game.

I never finished that game I should go fire it up and kill some police.

I think the game would have been laggy if they put in as much cocaine as he snorted in the move, lol.

 

[Oyeve]

I actually find all the NPC conversations in GTA:SA amusing. I am not bothered by obscene cursing. It is a reality. Especially in urban areas. I recall being semi-shocked when the game Kingpin, where the opening scene of a guy getting the snot beat out of him and all the nasty 4 letter words. It was new to have that kind of swearing in a game back then but I got over it pretty quick. I remember the first audio curse in a game. It was Wing Commander (I or II, cant remember) with the speechpak, when you finally went up against the traitor and he said "Oh Shit". I did a double-take because I had never heard a curse in a game before and wasnt sure so I replayed the mission over. I laughed my ass off!

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: QueBert
Scarface The Game owns GTA, playing as Tony Montana > anything Rock Star can come up with. language wise Scarface is more vulgar. Oh and you get to sell Cocaine, a shame they didn't stay true to the movie and let you actually sniff it in the game.

I never finished that game I should go fire it up and kill some police.

I think the game would have been laggy if they put in as much cocaine as he snorted in the move, lol.

Scarface was only ok, mostly because of the crappy vehicle control. But the missions weren't very interesting either. A decent game, but owns GTA? no.

OP wouldn't like it anyway, lots of bad words

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: QueBert
Scarface The Game owns GTA, playing as Tony Montana > anything Rock Star can come up with. language wise Scarface is more vulgar. Oh and you get to sell Cocaine, a shame they didn't stay true to the movie and let you actually sniff it in the game.

I never finished that game I should go fire it up and kill some police.

I think the game would have been laggy if they put in as much cocaine as he snorted in the move, lol.

Scarface was only ok, mostly because of the crappy vehicle control. But the missions weren't very interesting either. A decent game, but owns GTA? no.

OP wouldn't like it anyway, lots of bad words

Worse game in the genre is "25 to Life". I think the programmers, developers and anyone involved in that game should get 25 to life.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Oyeve

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: QueBert
Scarface The Game owns GTA, playing as Tony Montana > anything Rock Star can come up with. language wise Scarface is more vulgar. Oh and you get to sell Cocaine, a shame they didn't stay true to the movie and let you actually sniff it in the game.

I never finished that game I should go fire it up and kill some police.

I think the game would have been laggy if they put in as much cocaine as he snorted in the move, lol.

Scarface was only ok, mostly because of the crappy vehicle control. But the missions weren't very interesting either. A decent game, but owns GTA? no.

OP wouldn't like it anyway, lots of bad words

Worse game in the genre is "25 to Life". I think the programmers, developers and anyone involved in that game should get 25 to life.

Was it as bad as True Crime NYC? That crap lasted about 20 minutes on my pc.

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Oyeve

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Thetech

Originally posted by: QueBert
Scarface The Game owns GTA, playing as Tony Montana > anything Rock Star can come up with. language wise Scarface is more vulgar. Oh and you get to sell Cocaine, a shame they didn't stay true to the movie and let you actually sniff it in the game.

I never finished that game I should go fire it up and kill some police.

I think the game would have been laggy if they put in as much cocaine as he snorted in the move, lol.

Scarface was only ok, mostly because of the crappy vehicle control. But the missions weren't very interesting either. A decent game, but owns GTA? no.

OP wouldn't like it anyway, lots of bad words

Worse game in the genre is "25 to Life". I think the programmers, developers and anyone involved in that game should get 25 to life.

Was it as bad as True Crime NYC? That crap lasted about 20 minutes on my pc.

IMO it was worse than TC:NYC