How are the new v6 pony cars?

[T2urtle]

How are they? Tempted in getting one to replace my 05 g35x. Im at about 310hp @ the fly and getting 18-20mpg. Most of the new pony's are 300+hp, 30mpg highway and $25k

Any of them have oil burning issues or other motor issues? They all run about mid 13 in the 1/4 mile or so last I looked. More then enough power for me and DD.

Is one car constantly getting better reviews then the other?

 

[LTC8K6]

You should probably wait a bit, if you can, and see what the 2015 Mustang looks like for real.

Unless you are buying used?

 

[Demo24]

Its pretty solid as far as I know. However something to consider is that this is the last year of this gen mustang. So unless you just need something now I'd try to wait for either the new model, or if you really like this gen wait for the new model to come out and get a good deal on one. They come out sometime in the fall.

 

[T2urtle]

Ill do some rentals and see which I like best. I could go slightly used but all 3 pony cars are sub $25k new, so doubtful on saving money on used.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Check the weight, that's where my beef is. All of these cars surpass 3500lbs and even 4000lbs.

I can deal with lack of power, but you can never deal with getting rid of weight. Weight attributes TONS to cars characteristics.

 

[njmodi]

I had a 2014 Mustang V6 as a rental two weeks ago and it did not feel responsive at all... too much heft, too much car, and not enough muscle...... didn't feel like a 6-second 0-60 car...

I understand it's not meant to be nimble - but it doesn't feel quick, even in a straight line...

 

[T2urtle]

Check the weight, that's where my beef is. All of these cars surpass 3500lbs and even 4000lbs.

I can deal with lack of power, but you can never deal with getting rid of weight. Weight attributes TONS to cars characteristics.

I think the stang is very near 3500lbs.

My g35 is in the same weight, being awd. Hopefully I won't be disappointed

 

[Vdubchaos]

I think the stang is very near 3500lbs.

My g35 is in the same weight, being awd. Hopefully I won't be disappointed

Yep, bloated and too heavy (to me anyways).

Proper sports car should weight no more than 3000lbs (or somewhere around there).

lot of these pony/modern cars are over bloated pigs. You will never change the characterists of the car.

Suspension upgrades will help, but still won't go around laws of physics. Also proper suspension tuning is hard to come by (and most don't even do it).....and it's expensive.

 

[dguy6789]

Agreed. Massive amounts of steel and a lot of horsepower a work of art does not make.

 

[MiataNC]

I had a 2014 Mustang V6 as a rental two weeks ago and it did not feel responsive at all... too much heft, too much car, and not enough muscle...... didn't feel like a 6-second 0-60 car...

I understand it's not meant to be nimble - but it doesn't feel quick, even in a straight line...

That is a gearing issue. Even a V8 Mustang rental feels weak and under powered.

That being said...Mustang forums are filled with V6 owners wishing they had stepped up to the V8.

Power is addicting, and no matter how much you have you will get used to it and want more. Drive a 500HP car daily, and you will eventually find yourself wanting more. So why settle for less (eg V6 pony car), and end up disappointed?

 

[LTC8K6]

I had a 2014 Mustang V6 as a rental two weeks ago and it did not feel responsive at all... too much heft, too much car, and not enough muscle...... didn't feel like a 6-second 0-60 car...

I understand it's not meant to be nimble - but it doesn't feel quick, even in a straight line...

That's because it's a 5.3 second 0-60 car... :biggrin: with the perf pack. And it's incredibly nimble. :biggrin:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1205_2013_ford_mustang_v_6_premium_first_test/

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2013-ford-mustang-v-6-premium-instrumented-test-review

You must have gotten a lemon.

 

[njmodi]

That's because it's a 5.3 second 0-60 car... :biggrin: with the perf pack. And it's incredibly nimble. :biggrin:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1205_2013_ford_mustang_v_6_premium_first_test/

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2013-ford-mustang-v-6-premium-instrumented-test-review

You must have gotten a lemon.

Maybe so

Sitting inside - it does not give you the feeling of agility, that is for certain. Pushed around a track, by a pro, I'm sure it handles well enough

I liked my 97 GT convertible better

 

[njmodi]

That is a gearing issue. Even a V8 Mustang rental feels weak and under powered.

That being said...Mustang forums are filled with V6 owners wishing they had stepped up to the V8.

Power is addicting, and no matter how much you have you will get used to it and want more. Drive a 500HP car daily, and you will eventually find yourself wanting more. So why settle for less (eg V6 pony car), and end up disappointed?

I hear you. My daily is an accord 4-cyl - so I'm not habituated to a lot of torque or power - but it is a manual - and I think that makes a huge difference.

I was expecting the 300HP Mustang to push me back into my seat - but it's just not setup to do that, at least not in stock form with auto trans.

 

[LTC8K6]

Maybe so

Sitting inside - it does not give you the feeling of agility, that is for certain. Pushed around a track, by a pro, I'm sure it handles well enough

I liked my 97 GT convertible better

The auto can also have different rear end gears, 2.73 or 3.31. Looking around on the net, one version is apparently quite a bit slower than the other.

I guess the rentals have the regular gearing and not the performance gearing.

 

[drbrock]

Got the v6 rental myself. If I put in manual mode that was the only way it had any power. When I was up in the mountains it was a pain to manage in auto. Soon as I threw it in third gear the entire time it was a completely different car. Gas mileage went way down though lol.

Go for the V8. Or treat yourself to a stingray lol.

 

[nerp]

Too bad they don't have the ZF-8 in the Challenger yet. I'd say see what the Pentastar feels like with that transmission. It's sweet in the Charger, but that's not a pony car.

 

[uclaLabrat]

I hear you. My daily is an accord 4-cyl - so I'm not habituated to a lot of torque or power - but it is a manual - and I think that makes a huge difference.

I was expecting the 300HP Mustang to push me back into my seat - but it's just not setup to do that, at least not in stock form with auto trans.

Weird. My dad had a 2001 Cobra, that thing only put out about 310 HP and it was a damn rocket. Took it out one time, almost got myself in a lot of trouble. I remember that thing being VERY quick.

 

[JMapleton]

Only on ATOT does a person look at the 1/4 mile stats to determine if it's suitable for a daily driver.

300+ hp for a DD? Beyond wasteful.

 

[T2urtle]

Too bad they don't have the ZF-8 in the Challenger yet. I'd say see what the Pentastar feels like with that transmission. It's sweet in the Charger, but that's not a pony car.

Doesn't have to exactly be a pony car.

My g35x is about 300hp so I'm used to the "power" of lack of. I'm trying to find decent rental rates for these cars. $75 is just too much.

 

[LTC8K6]

Only on ATOT does a person look at the 1/4 mile stats to determine if it's suitable for a daily driver.

300+ hp for a DD? Beyond wasteful.

I equate 0-60 and 1/4 mile numbers to I-40 / I-95 etc., on-ramp performance, and passing performance, and I consider it important.

There are still parts of the country where traffic is not bad and it flows at 80mph, and you have to merge into it on a short ramp.

You also need grunt to still be there at 60mph, to quickly pass certain drivers without bothering those behind you. When I get behind a slow driver or a truck pulling out, or a left lane bandit, I like to pass them smartly, and I want a vehicle that still accelerates well from 60 or 65 mph.

I find 8 seconds to 60 to be my upper limit. Any slower, and I'd rather not drive it.

 

[JMapleton]

I equate 0-60 and 1/4 mile numbers to I-40 / I-95 etc., on-ramp performance, and passing performance, and I consider it important.

There are still parts of the country where traffic is not bad and it flows at 80mph, and you have to merge into it on a short ramp.

You also need grunt to still be there at 60mph, to quickly pass certain drivers without bothering those behind you. When I get behind a slow driver or a truck pulling out, or a left lane bandit, I like to pass them smartly, and I want a vehicle that still accelerates well from 60 or 65 mph.

I find 8 seconds to 60 to be my upper limit. Any slower, and I'd rather not drive it.

I've had my 150hp Acura for nearly a year now and I have never ever ever once thought to myself, "I need more power."

I have never had a situation where I couldn't merge with traffic quickly or pass a vehicle.

300hp is beyond ridiculous and wasteful.

Like I said, only on ATOT.

 

[drbrock]

I have 258 on my acura and it is enough for me. However, I would always like to go faster. Sometimes on a ramp taht is going uphill and I need to get to 80 quickly it is bothersome. Plus 300hp in these new cars does not feel the same as 300hp in the older cars for some reason. Maybe it is the gearing.

 

[foghorn67]

Only on ATOT does a person look at the 1/4 mile stats to determine if it's suitable for a daily driver.

300+ hp for a DD? Beyond wasteful.

No one gives a crap about your Civic.

 

[skyking]

weight. The bloat of new creature comforts has not stopped. Only the F150 truck has turned that tide. I hope other cars/makers can follow suit.
My 66 V-8 Mustang weighed in at 2800 pounds. It did not need 300 HP to feel quick.

 

[nerp]

I've had my 150hp Acura for nearly a year now and I have never ever ever once thought to myself, "I need more power."

I have never had a situation where I couldn't merge with traffic quickly or pass a vehicle.

300hp is beyond ridiculous and wasteful.

Like I said, only on ATOT.

Wasteful? Why didn't you just buy a Civic then?