How American occupations will vote for president

Jay Z '00

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Law Enforcement: Lean Trump
Police: Likely Trump
White Male Cops: Safe Trump
White Female Cops: Likely Trump
Latino Male Cops: Lean Trump
Latina Female Cops: Tossup
Black Male Cops: Lean Trump
Black Female Cops: Safe Harris

Doctors: Lean Trump
Lawyers: Safe Harris
Firefighters: Lean Trump
Military: Tossup
Teachers/Professors: Lean Harris
Entertainment: Tossup

Just my guess.
 

HomerJS

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Law Enforcement: Lean Trump
Police: Likely Trump
White Male Cops: Safe Trump
White Female Cops: Likely Trump
Latino Male Cops: Lean Trump
Latina Female Cops: Tossup
Black Male Cops: Lean Trump
Black Female Cops: Safe Harris

Doctors: Lean Trump
Lawyers: Safe Harris
Firefighters: Lean Trump
Military: Tossup
Teachers/Professors: Lean Harris
Entertainment: Tossup

Just my guess.
Think Capital Police likely Trump? Not even Trump's former Chiefs of Staff favor Trump

Dude, new account with posting style we've seen before? How much are they paying you?
 

BonzaiDuck

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Jun 30, 2004
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Law Enforcement: Lean Trump
Police: Likely Trump
White Male Cops: Safe Trump
White Female Cops: Likely Trump
Latino Male Cops: Lean Trump
Latina Female Cops: Tossup
Black Male Cops: Lean Trump
Black Female Cops: Safe Harris

Doctors: Lean Trump
Lawyers: Safe Harris
Firefighters: Lean Trump
Military: Tossup
Teachers/Professors: Lean Harris
Entertainment: Tossup

Just my guess.
"Just [your] guess." I'm not angry at you, nor do I feel a need to argue.

But I need to point out that there is nothing factual in your listed assertions. It's all speculation. And if that is all that it is, you're wasting our time.

I just posted a new thread about a rumored SURVEY of Trump voters since 2017, but the news I've found is only a factual ANECDOTAL story quoting a Trump supporter who "didn't think he was hurting" people enough.

I want the survey results. One anecdotal fact does not a sound conclusion make.

When are they going to teach basic business statistics in high-school? No judgment here about the OP, but the Trumpers are clueless and deranged in their beliefs about factual reality --- as much as to say they ignore factual reality.

They think significant partisan-motivated voter-fraud can occur when there are 161,000 precincts, more than 500 congressional districts, 3,143 counties with Registrars of Voters, 50 US states and a few territories. With so many jurisdictions managing elections and no voter fraud reported except insignificant and prosecuted instances of it, they wasted millions of dollars in Arizona "looking for bamboo in ballot paper" over maybe six months, when a statistical sample of an appropriate size (perhaps 10,000 randomly sampled ballots) would have turned up any fraud in Arizona counties or the state, and such a sampling process might have taken at most a month.

Do I believe the recent polls of the dead heat between Harris and Trump? I'm skeptical, but they cause me concern. Yet, these polls cannot include the mountain of new registrations the country has experienced in recent months, because they wouldn't be among "likely voters" -- even newly registered -- because they didn't vote yet. To be a "likely voter", you would have had to vote previously -- indicated in the County Registrar's database.

The only way to conduct a civil political discourse would make "scientific method" the only acceptable approach. Collect as many verifiable facts as possible about issues and problems, and then use rigorous logical inference to prove your points. This was probably more evident at the time of the Lincoln Douglas debate, whereas now -- political "debating" has sunk to the level of the WWW TV Smackdown -- calling names, making up stories that aren't true, and so forth.

So where is the survey of various occupations showing preferences for either candidate?
 
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Jay Z '00

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Think Capital Police likely Trump? Not even Trump's former Chiefs of Staff favor Trump

Dude, new account with posting style we've seen before? How much are they paying you?
Most police support law and order, qualified immunity. Capital Police may lean Harris, but they still don't believe in defund police.

Defund the police is to Dems what overturning Roe is to Republicans.
 
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Jay Z '00

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"Just [your] guess." I'm not angry at you, nor do I feel a need to argue.

But I need to point out that there is nothing factual in your listed assertions. It's all speculation. And if that is all that it is, you're wasting our time.

I just posted a new thread about a rumored SURVEY of Trump voters since 2017, but the news I've found is only a factual ANECDOTAL story quoting a Trump supporter who "didn't think he was hurting" people enough.


I want the survey results. One anecdotal fact does not a sound conclusion make.

When are they going to teach basic business statistics in high-school? No judgment here about the OP, but the Trumpers are clueless and deranged in their beliefs about factual reality --- as much as to say they ignore factual reality.

They think significant partisan-motivated voter-fraud can occur when there are 161,000 precincts, more than 500 congressional districts, 3,143 counties with Registrars of Voters, 50 US states and a few territories. With so many jurisdictions managing elections and no voter fraud reported except insignificant and prosecuted instances of it, they wasted millions of dollars in Arizona "looking for bamboo in ballot paper" over maybe six months, when a statistical sample of an appropriate size (perhaps 10,000 randomly sampled ballots) would have turned up any fraud in Arizona counties or the state, and such a sampling process might have taken at most a month.

Do I believe the recent polls of the dead heat between Harris and Trump? I'm skeptical, but they cause me concern. Yet, these polls cannot include the mountain of new registrations the country has experienced in recent months, because they wouldn't be among "likely voters" -- even newly registered -- because they didn't vote yet. To be a "likely voter", you would have had to vote previously -- indicated in the County Registrar's database.

The only way to conduct a civil political discourse would make "scientific method" the only acceptable approach. Collect as many verifiable facts as possible about issues and problems, and then use rigorous logical inference to prove your points. This was probably more evident at the time of the Lincoln Douglas debate, whereas now -- political "debating" has sunk to the level of the WWW TV Smackdown -- calling names, making up stories that aren't true, and so forth.

So where is the survey of various occupations showing preferences for either candidate?

Have you seen most police? Most police officers are Trump supporters. If you are interacting with a cop, you're most likely interacting with a Republican. They don't believe in defunding police, etc, stuff that some Dems said that are haunting the party, like the abortion thing with Republicans.

90-95 of cops are Republicans.
 

HomerJS

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Most police support law and order, qualified immunity. Capital Police may lean Harris, but they still don't believe in defund police.

Defund the police is to Dems what overturning Roe is to Republicans.
Why would you guess Capital Police would lean against Trump? Notice I respond to the thread's OP. I would appreciate the same in my Trump supporters with young girls thread.
 

Jay Z '00

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Why would you guess Capital Police would lean against Trump?
Because of what happened on Jan 6. However, if not for that, they'd be on the MAGA train.

Most cops are Republicans, despise Black Lives Matter, which Dems are allied with and do not want criminal justice reform.

Why would any cop vote for reforms?

Doctors, however, lean Democratic.
 

HomerJS

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Because of what happened on Jan 6. However, if not for that, they'd be on the MAGA train.

Most cops are Republicans, despise Black Lives Matter, which Dems are allied with and do not want criminal justice reform.

Why would any cop vote for reforms?

Doctors, however, lean Democratic.
Are you saying cops other than the Capital Police don't look at J6 and think, "this guy is really anti-cop"?

Cops also don't want the proliferation of guns on the streets. Shouldn't they favor Dems?

Doctors lean Democratic? Not what your OP says.

Admit it. You are being paid for this.
 

Jay Z '00

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Are you saying cops other than the Capital Police don't look at J6 and think, "this guy is really anti-cop"?

Cops also don't want the proliferation of guns on the streets. Shouldn't they favor Dems?


Doctors lean Democratic? Not what your OP says.

Admit it. You are being paid for this.
They also don't believe in defunding police, they don't believe that all cops are racially motivated either, so they don't trust the Dems on that issue either.

They would go with the party that doesn't call them those things, even if they don't agree with the party lockstep.
 

pmv

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It's not pointless. Occupations determines political ideology. Most cops are Republican. Most teachers are Democratic/Green party.

Well if you were posting some actual quantitative data, from an opinion poll or something, it might be mildly worthwhile, but I just don't see why I should care about a random poster's unsupported opinion about the very general, non-quantative leaning of some randomly-selected occupational groups.

It's not as if you even had any point to add about what either the causes or effects of such leanings might be, that might allow for discussion.

I mean, your thread title gave the impression that there would be data. Not just guesses. Pure clickbait!
 
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Well if you were posting some actual quantitative data, from an opinion poll or something, it might be mildly worthwhile, but I just don't see why I should care about a random poster's unsupported opinion about the very general, non-quantative leaning of some randomly-selected occupational groups.

It's not as if you even had any point to add about what either the causes or effects of such leanings might be, that might allow for discussion.

I mean, your thread title gave the impression that there would be data. Not just guesses. Pure clickbait!
It's not a random poster, it's gettyroad coming back under a new ID.
 
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JD50

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Have you seen most police? Most police officers are Trump supporters. If you are interacting with a cop, you're most likely interacting with a Republican. They don't believe in defunding police, etc, stuff that some Dems said that are haunting the party, like the abortion thing with Republicans.

90-95 of cops are Republicans.
The difference of course is that Roe actually was overturned, while police have not and will not be defunded. Do you think the people who believe this are gullible or just stupid?
 

HomerJS

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They also don't believe in defunding police, they don't believe that all cops are racially motivated either, so they don't trust the Dems on that issue either.

They would go with the party that doesn't call them those things, even if they don't agree with the party lockstep.
You just lied in your response. Leadership of the Democratic Party has NEVER called for "defund the police"

Democratic leadership has never said "all cops are racially motivated". Another lie.

Trump was cool with cops being beaten within an inch of their lives on J6. That's not a party that supports the police. This same party booed the capital police when they came to the PA state house. Do you call that supporting police?

Still waiting for your response to the OP in the "Trump supporters with young girls" thread
 
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Jay Z '00

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The difference of course is that Roe actually was overturned, while police have not and will not be defunded. Do you think the people who believe this are gullible or just stupid?
They have a fear, they saw what happened in 2020. Why should a cop vote Democratic right now, especially in the era of Black Lives Matter? What does it benefit a cop to do so right now?

The same thing with a woman voting Republican right now..
 

HomerJS

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They have a fear, they saw what happened in 2020. Why should a cop vote Democratic right now, especially in the era of Black Lives Matter? What does it benefit a cop to do so right now?

The same thing with a woman voting Republican right now..
Why? Because Trump and Republicans have SHOWN they do not support police with their response to J6.
 

JD50

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They have a fear, they saw what happened in 2020. Why should a cop vote Democratic right now, especially in the era of Black Lives Matter? What does it benefit a cop to do so right now?

The same thing with a woman voting Republican right now..
Good cops should vote for the party that wants Police reform and wants to get rid of the bad cops. Why? Because bad cops make the good cops look bad.

The cops who won't vote for Kamala because they think she will defund the police are either stupid or gullible, you choose.
 

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Bakers are pro flour. Only people who are insane would dispute that. So none of you assholes better start an argument about that with me. This is just as true as that Hawaiians love parakeets. You idiots need to get your priorities straight about things just in case any of you get any ideas about defunding bakeries.