Housing prices.

[K1052]

It's kind of amazing that it is now standard conservative orthodoxy that we should deport immigrants so their coveted fruit picking jobs can be taken up by child laborers and the elderly.

Grandma will be so excited for her new job in the fields!

The children yearn for the mines.

 

[Greenman]

You don't pay into SSI. It is NOT funded by the Social Security taxes one pays when working.

"Social Security benefits may be paid to you and certain members of your family if you are “insured,” meaning you worked long enough and paid Social Security taxes."

"SSI is financed by general funds of the U.S. Treasury. Social Security taxes do not fund the SSI program."

https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-17-008.pdf

Well, the federal government took about 15% of my income under the heading of SSI. When I applied for social security the amount I receive was based on how much I had paid into it. No matter how you cut it, dumped a bucket of money into something called SSI. Now some whining closet communist is upset because I'm getting some of it back.

 

[Paratus]

It's kind of amazing that it is now standard conservative orthodoxy that we should deport immigrants so their coveted fruit picking jobs can be taken up by child laborers and the elderly.

Grandma will be so excited for her new job in the fields!

Republicans are Ben Stiller?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Well, the federal government took about 15% of my income under the heading of SSI. When I applied for social security the amount I receive was based on how much I had paid into it. No matter how you cut it, dumped a bucket of money into something called SSI. Now some whining closet communist is upset because I'm getting some of it back.

You could always just read about it.

How Does Social Security Work? 12 Things You Can’t Afford Not to Know

You probably know that saving and investing are essential to retirement planning. But just as important to the equation: Social Security planning. It’s impossible to overstate the importance of Social Security to retirees. The truth is, Americans aren’t saving or investing enough for a secure...

www.thepennyhoarder.com

 

[Pens1566]

You could always just read about it.

How Does Social Security Work? 12 Things You Can’t Afford Not to Know

You probably know that saving and investing are essential to retirement planning. But just as important to the equation: Social Security planning. It’s impossible to overstate the importance of Social Security to retirees. The truth is, Americans aren’t saving or investing enough for a secure...

www.thepennyhoarder.com

Assuming they can read. Based on posting evidence, I don't think that's a valid conclusion.

 

[repoman0]

Well, the federal government took about 15% of my income under the heading of SSI. When I applied for social security the amount I receive was based on how much I had paid into it. No matter how you cut it, dumped a bucket of money into something called SSI. Now some whining closet communist is upset because I'm getting some of it back.

You are getting more than all of it back, brainless dipshit. I know numbers and reading comprehension are too complicated for you but maybe this will help somebody else.

By the way, this continues to work because our economy has advanced and moved past picking up heavy things. Here you are reaping the full benefits of the system, completely ignorant to how it works, while voting to rug pull for future generations either out of stupidity or malice.

Social Security: A Good or Bad Investment?

Over the years there has been the debate on whether privatizing Social Security is a good idea. My focus is on the possibility of whether privatization would lead to a better investment return.

www.forbes.com

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Well, the federal government took about 15% of my income under the heading of SSI. When I applied for social security the amount I receive was based on how much I had paid into it. No matter how you cut it, dumped a bucket of money into something called SSI. Now some whining closet communist is upset because I'm getting some of it back.

You need to edumacate yourself on the difference between SS (social security), SSI (supplemental security income), and SSDI (social security disability insurance), as I suspect you're getting one or more confused.

 

[nakedfrog]

You need to edumacate yourself on the difference between SS (social security), SSI (supplemental security income), and SSDI (social security disability insurance), as I suspect you're getting one or more confused.

Too mentally lazy and helpless.
It's labeled FICA on my checks, was there ever a point it was under the heading of "SSI"?

 

[fskimospy]

You are getting more than all of it back, brainless dipshit. I know numbers and reading comprehension are too complicated for you but maybe this will help somebody else.

By the way, this continues to work because our economy has advanced and moved past picking up heavy things. Here you are reaping the full benefits of the system, completely ignorant to how it works, while voting to rug pull for future generations either out of stupidity or malice.

Social Security: A Good or Bad Investment?

Over the years there has been the debate on whether privatizing Social Security is a good idea. My focus is on the possibility of whether privatization would lead to a better investment return.

www.forbes.com

This is a very good point that these guys always dance past. The type of manufacturing jobs they are trying to bring back here are very low value add and would pay peanuts. Why on earth would we want to import low wage, dangerous, environmentally costly jobs?

I think it's because when people think of manufacturing they think of the manufacturing jobs present in the US today. Those exist precisely BECAUSE they're ones that buck this trend and are relatively high value, which then leads to relatively high pay. You're not getting that from putting screws in an iphone.

 

[hal2kilo]

Too mentally lazy and helpless.
It's labeled FICA on my checks, was there ever a point it was under the heading of "SSI"?

Well when I first worked for the company that I retired from, they hired me in Anaheim, CA as a field service technician to either work at New News (Poseidon) or Groton (Trident). It turned out I was going to Groton, via school at Cape Canaveral for 3 months. Yea, they had excellent school and training in those days, pushed ones and zeros through just about every circuit on the 4x4 TTL circuit card tech that was being used at that time . Anyway, someone said make sure when you get to your "home site" to tell Anaheim to drop SSI. It's a CA thing that I think he's talking about.

 

[APU_Fusion]

Greenman has a desperate need not educate himself because he needs to be a victim of the woke “others” to explain his lot in life.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I just noticed this conglomeration of stupidity and sour grapes.
Apparently you don't understand that I didn't have a choice about paying into SSI. It's not voluntary, the money was taken from me.
Yes Americans are lazy. Have you noticed the panic over Trump deporting our peasant class? Who's going to pick our crops? Who's going to clean our homes and mow our lawns? Who's going to do every shit job were to important to do? The panic is amusing. Rather than working our way towards diabetes and a double bypass, we're going to have to start working, actually picking up heavy things.

Heres an opportunity to put your money where your mouth is.

 

[Pens1566]

That's ^ an ICE honeypot operation.

 

[eelw]

Greenman has a desperate need not educate himself because he needs to be a victim of the woke “others” to explain his lot in life.

Housing costs big issue for our Canadian federal election next week. Many closest Maple MAGA that are clones of greenie have basically said, they’d be fine voting for Hitler if he promised lower housing costs. And as long he’s not a bloody liberal also helps.

 

[K1052]

Last night the California legislature voted to exempt infill housing up to 85 feet in height from CEQA at the governor's request as part of the budget. Massive victory that had been sought after for at least a decade.

https://calmatters.org/housing/2025/06/ceqa-urban-development-infill-budget/

The legislature is also considering a major up zoning around transit stops that would override local restrictions. There is more work to do especially on stuff like impact fees, permitting, etc but this is a huge step forward.

 

[fskimospy]

Last night the California legislature voted to exempt infill housing up to 85 feet in height from CEQA at the governor's request as part of the budget. Massive victory that had been sought after for at least a decade.

https://calmatters.org/housing/2025/06/ceqa-urban-development-infill-budget/

The legislature is also considering a major up zoning around transit stops that would override local restrictions. There is more work to do especially on stuff like impact fees, permitting, etc but this is a huge step forward.

That's incredible news! Yes, still tons of regulatory barriers on housing construction but every step forward counts.

I hope they don't stop there with cutting back CEQA though - it's a cancer for more than just housing!

 

[K1052]

That's incredible news! Yes, still tons of regulatory barriers on housing construction but every step forward counts.

I hope they don't stop there with cutting back CEQA though - it's a cancer for more than just housing!

Literally all it took was for Newsom to throw his weight behind it, which credit where credit is due here.

 

[Greenman]

"It also means most urban developers will no longer have to study, predict and mitigate the ways that new housing might affect local traffic, air pollution, flora and fauna, noise levels, groundwater quality and objects of historic or archeological significance."

That's beyond huge. While it won't have any real impact on housing prices for many years, it will allow for sprawl, and growth without infrastructure. Real estate developers must be absolutely giddy over this one.

 

[Brovane]

Last night the California legislature voted to exempt infill housing up to 85 feet in height from CEQA at the governor's request as part of the budget. Massive victory that had been sought after for at least a decade.

https://calmatters.org/housing/2025/06/ceqa-urban-development-infill-budget/

The legislature is also considering a major up zoning around transit stops that would override local restrictions. There is more work to do especially on stuff like impact fees, permitting, etc but this is a huge step forward.

San Diego recently changed the ADU rules to stop developers from putting 12+ ADU's on a single family home lot. Not sure how overall I feel about it. However I do feel for people that purchased a single family home and then the home next door becomes a 12+ unit apartment complex.

https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/city-council-votes-to-make-changes-to-san-diegos-adu-program

More than a dozen ADU's may be built on cul-de-sac near Rolando

 

[K1052]

"It also means most urban developers will no longer have to study, predict and mitigate the ways that new housing might affect local traffic, air pollution, flora and fauna, noise levels, groundwater quality and objects of historic or archeological significance."

That's beyond huge. While it won't have any real impact on housing prices for many years, it will allow for sprawl, and growth without infrastructure. Real estate developers must be absolutely giddy over this one.

No.

Wicks bill defines “infill” broadly as any housing in an urban area that’s either been previously developed or surrounded by developed lots and doesn’t sit on a wetland, a farm field, a hazardous waste site or a conservation area.

https://calmatters.org/housing/2025/03/ceqa-infill-housing-wicks/

 

[K1052]

San Diego recently changed the ADU rules to stop developers from putting 12+ ADU's on a single family home lot. Not sure how overall I feel about it. However I do feel for people that purchased a single family home and then the home next door becomes a 12+ unit apartment complex.

https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/city-council-votes-to-make-changes-to-san-diegos-adu-program

More than a dozen ADU's may be built on cul-de-sac near Rolando

How I feel about it is that the city should have its housing element declared non-compliant and get sued by the state AG.

 

[Brainonska511]

However I do feel for people that purchased a single family home and then the home next door becomes a 12+ unit apartment complex.

Well, if they wanted their neighborhood preseved in amber, they should have bought the neighboring lots. And if they don't like the changes, they can always sell their home for a huge windfall.

 

[fskimospy]

"It also means most urban developers will no longer have to study, predict and mitigate the ways that new housing might affect local traffic, air pollution, flora and fauna, noise levels, groundwater quality and objects of historic or archeological significance."

Correct, and it is fucking fantastic. For an example of just how bad CEQA is and how little it's related to the environment here's an example of oil companies using CEQA in order to prevent Los Angeles from NOT drilling for oil, saying they had not sufficiently evaluated the environmental impact of not operating giant oil extraction facilities within the vicinity of America's second largest city. lol.

Lawsuit Challenges L.A. Oil Drilling Ban

Oil companies with operations in the city of Los Angeles are suing over an ordinance that seeks to phase out drilling within city limits due to public health and environmental concerns.

www.planetizen.com

That's beyond huge. While it won't have any real impact on housing prices for many years, it will allow for sprawl, and growth without infrastructure. Real estate developers must be absolutely giddy over this one.

It's not, and it's common sense if you saw how CEQA was abused over the years - it is a large cause of California's housing crisis.

I think anyone who wants housing to be affordable should be absolutely giddy. All I care about is cheaper housing, if developers make money providing that then great! Everyone wins.

 

[Greenman]

No.



https://calmatters.org/housing/2025/03/ceqa-infill-housing-wicks/

Infill affects traffic, schools, hospitals, shopping, energy requirements, sanitation, and water supply. Those effects are magnified by density.
Developers won't be required to study or mitigate those changes. On a per unit basis the savings isn't much, but when measured against infrastructure improvements in already developed areas it's huge. Moving those costs from the developer to the municipality make infill projects very profitable.

 

[Brovane]

Well, if they wanted their neighborhood preseved in amber, they should have bought the neighboring lots. And if they don't like the changes, they can always sell their home for a huge windfall.

What a lot of American cities don't have is the "Missing Middle Housing" which would allow more mixture of residential housing in cities.

Unfortunately we cannot have something like this in the US.

The Best-Designed Town in the Netherlands (and therefore, the world)