House GOP measure would let Trump seek third term

[fskimospy]

You can argue that the chances of such an amendment meeting success are small, but these people -- the MAGA-Trumpers and Trump entourage -- have made it clear they don't want the opposition to have an even chance anymore.

at my senior age with pre-existing conditions and disability and lack of financial resources, I still incline to consider the violent overthrow of any GOP statehouse or national government. Good for the Goose? (as it was on January 6) -- then Good for the Gander. "Apocalypse Now! Exterminate them all." [Quote taken from a Francis Ford Coppola movie']

I think we need to seize the government by legitimate or other means, and eliminate the Electoral College, pass some laws requiring responsible custodial attention to established agencies and programs (like them or not).

Another thing: consider eliminating the tax exemption of religious organizations altogether, or explore any means of enforcing certain requirements for revoking it. It's a gray area. Where do you draw the line?

Bishop Budde was right to preach about the moral issue, and she made Trump show his true nature the following day. But churches like the First Baptist Church of Dallas run by Robert Jeffress promote some pretty loopy ideas. As I said, the problem is to establish a clear line past which they cannot cross unless they're eager to pay taxes.

I've heard enough from the rank and file -- local and across the nation. These people are fundamentally ignorant, and probably not entirely aware of actions and inclinations of their leadership.

The Judiciary also needs reform, so people like Aileen Cannon are prevented from derail and delay.

They aren't going to pass an amendment because it would never get close to enough votes.

If they are going to do it they will just do it and dare you to stop them. What the Constitution says is meaningless now, after all anyone who interprets it differently than the president can simply be (legally) killed.

 

[HomerJS]

How many are you personally willing to kill to achieve your goals? Or is this something "others" should handle?
Revolution is a dirty business, you can't post your way to victory. You have to declare an enemy and kill enough of them that the remainder lose interest in the process.

Are you saying they should or should not attempt this?

 

[hal2kilo]

Are you saying they should or should not attempt this?

He almost starting to get it.

 

[Greenman]

Are you saying they should or should not attempt this?

What I think doesn't matter. The fact is that the vast majority of Americans wouldn't risk their lives or their comfort to fight. It's pretty easy to say "we have to take the country by force". It's whole different story when you realize those folks you want to oust have guns as well.
I find all of this absurd. It's emotional rantings over a lost election, no one here is going to risk his 401k to toss out Trump. No one is going to organize a rebellion and hang the republican's after a glorious victory. What's going to happen is left is going to snivel about it and hope that someone else takes action, while calling everyone that disagrees with them a Nazi racist.

 

[IronWing]

What I think doesn't matter. The fact is that the vast majority of Americans wouldn't risk their lives or their comfort to fight. It's pretty easy to say "we have to take the country by force". It's whole different story when you realize those folks you want to oust have guns as well.
I find all of this absurd. It's emotional rantings over a lost election, no one here is going to risk his 401k to toss out Trump. No one is going to organize a rebellion and hang the republican's after a glorious victory. What's going to happen is left is going to snivel about it and hope that someone else takes action, while calling everyone that disagrees with them a Nazi racist.

Just because someone called you a Nazi doesn’t mean that you aren’t a Nazi. You, of your own free will, voted for a Nazi and that makes you a Nazi and it makes you responsible for the evil that the Nazi you empowered will do .

 

[fskimospy]

What I think doesn't matter. The fact is that the vast majority of Americans wouldn't risk their lives or their comfort to fight. It's pretty easy to say "we have to take the country by force". It's whole different story when you realize those folks you want to oust have guns as well.
I find all of this absurd. It's emotional rantings over a lost election, no one here is going to risk his 401k to toss out Trump. No one is going to organize a rebellion and hang the republican's after a glorious victory. What's going to happen is left is going to snivel about it and hope that someone else takes action, while calling everyone that disagrees with them a Nazi racist.

You have Elon Musk literally giving Nazi salutes at rallies (to thunderous applause) and you're still trying to whine about people calling Trumpkins Nazis. This is either massive gaslighting or total delusional thinking on your part. If you don't want to be called Nazis it's very simple - stop supporting Nazis.

Have you ever noticed that Democrats don't give Nazi salutes at their rallies? Did you ever notice how Biden didn't have dinner with Nazis? Is it really that hard?

 

[Greenman]

Just because someone called you a Nazi doesn’t mean that you aren’t a Nazi. You, of your own free will, voted for a Nazi and that makes you a Nazi and it makes you responsible for the evil that the Nazi you empowered will do .

This is a perfect example of what I'm saying. The only content here is anger and hate. It doesn't sell, it doesn't invite reflection or thought, it's not an offer to share an idea, it's just the words of an angry child.
You'd think that after being soundly rejected by the majority of the nation you'd reevaluate your approach, instead you double down on it.

 

[Fenixgoon]

This is a perfect example of what I'm saying. The only content here is anger and hate. It doesn't sell, it doesn't invite reflection or thought, it's not an offer to share an idea, it's just the words of an angry child.
You'd think that after being soundly rejected by the majority of the nation you'd reevaluate your approach, instead you double down on it.

You're in 1930s Germany. How do you convince your friend who voted for Hitler that it was a bad idea and that they need to resist Hitler instead.

 

[fskimospy]

This is a perfect example of what I'm saying. The only content here is anger and hate. It doesn't sell, it doesn't invite reflection or thought, it's not an offer to share an idea, it's just the words of an angry child.

If they do not support or at least tacitly accept Nazis why do you think Trump is so friendly with them and why do you think his surrogates are openly throwing Nazi salutes around? Seems fair to point out when someone supports Nazis, no?

You'd think that after being soundly rejected by the majority of the nation you'd reevaluate your approach, instead you double down on it.

The election was decided by 1%. Funny how I never heard Republicans say they were soundly rejected in 2020, haha.

 

[fskimospy]

It's funny how much conservatives have basically retreated to the argument of 'well you can't expect Trump to associate with ZERO Nazis, can you? That's crazy!'

Strange how nobody else finds that hard, haha.

 

[repoman0]

This is a perfect example of what I'm saying. The only content here is anger and hate. It doesn't sell, it doesn't invite reflection or thought, it's not an offer to share an idea, it's just the words of an angry child.
You'd think that after being soundly rejected by the majority of the nation you'd reevaluate your approach, instead you double down on it.

“The mean liberals made me support Nazis”

 

[Greenman]

You're in 1930s Germany. How do you convince your friend who voted for Hitler that it was a bad idea and that they need to resist Hitler instead.

Lets flip that around, have you ever changed someone's mind by swearing at them and calling them names?

 

[Greenman]

“The mean liberals made me support Nazis”

No one made me support anyone. My decisions are my own.

 

[IronWing]

This is a perfect example of what I'm saying. The only content here is anger and hate. It doesn't sell, it doesn't invite reflection or thought, it's not an offer to share an idea, it's just the words of an angry child.
You'd think that after being soundly rejected by the majority of the nation you'd reevaluate your approach, instead you double down on it.

Why would I cave into your depravity?

 

[Brainonska511]

Lets flip that around, have you ever changed someone's mind by swearing at them and calling them names?

Why does the "fuck your feelings" crowd need everyone to baby them so that their feelings aren't hurt?

 

[APU_Fusion]

Greenman and pcgeek are the good little nazi Germans who will one day look around and cry out that they didn’t know because no one told them. They were just following orders.

Edit: I see old pcgeek is laughing. How sad you are. Sad.

 

[IronWing]

No one made me support anyone. My decisions are my own.

Right, and you voted for a Nazi so why are you pouting?

 

[fskimospy]

No one made me support anyone. My decisions are my own.

So own your decision! You supported Nazis and now people are criticizing you for it.

True responsibility is the freedom to act AND taking responsibility for the results of those actions. Be responsible!

 

[nakedfrog]

This is a perfect example of what I'm saying. The only content here is anger and hate. It doesn't sell, it doesn't invite reflection or thought, it's not an offer to share an idea, it's just the words of an angry child.
You'd think that after being soundly rejected by the majority of the nation you'd reevaluate your approach, instead you double down on it.

That's actually not true, there's quite a bit of content here that isn't anger and hate. It's true that those are on the uptick, but that's to be expected when the party of anger and hate has taken control of the nation, and that by a very slim margin. However, it's laughable to see you bemoan a lack of reflection or thought here, when you generally appear to engage in neither. You are the angry child you speak of, governed by knee-jerk thoughts and gut intuitions, very very rarely to be swayed by the presentation of information that conflicts with your gut--typically either rejected by you outright, or else you simply flee from addressing the scenario.

Even here, we see evidence of it, you pretend Trump's victory was a "sound rejection by the majority of the nation", this is very clearly not an accurate view. If you actually think it is, I don't think you're being honest with yourself. Perhaps you could reflect on that.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Lets flip that around, have you ever changed someone's mind by swearing at them and calling them names?

In a come to jesus talk maybe that works. Conservatives have been handled with kid gloves for decades and now they elected a bunch of Nazis. So yeah, the Nazis are going to be called Nazis, including the problem that elected the Nazis.

So, now I'm curious what you would think would convince someone in 1930s Germany who votes for Hitler that it was a bad idea.

 

[APU_Fusion]

Greenman is pure troll and projection. All magats are. Facts mean nothing. Only his feelings are facts. He voted for an adjudicated rapist and would never address Homer's fact based questions about why. 7.9 trillion in deficit spending in four years? Means nothing. 33k lies during his presidency, means nothing. Impeached twice. Means nothing. Caging children at the border. Means nothing. Lying about wall and health care. Means nothing. Losing 2 million jobs in four years. Means nothing. Firing inspector generals illegally. Means nothing.

Trump pardoned those convicted of Seditious Conspiracy and violent criminals who stormed our Goddamn capital building and green man goes on about both sides. It means nothing.

WHY THE HELL AREN’T FOOD PRICES DOWN AND UKRAINE WAR STOPPED DAY OF ELECTION GREENMAN? EH? You mean Trump lied?


Just keep working on your Nazi Salute.

PBS sedition

 

[sandorski]

Dude's never seen a Republican do wrong or a Democrat do right.... c'mon guys, give him a break.

 

[HomerJS]

What I think doesn't matter. The fact is that the vast majority of Americans wouldn't risk their lives or their comfort to fight. It's pretty easy to say "we have to take the country by force". It's whole different story when you realize those folks you want to oust have guns as well.
I find all of this absurd. It's emotional rantings over a lost election, no one here is going to risk his 401k to toss out Trump. No one is going to organize a rebellion and hang the republican's after a glorious victory. What's going to happen is left is going to snivel about it and hope that someone else takes action, while calling everyone that disagrees with them a Nazi racist.

I'm asking is it right or wrong to attempt allowing Trump a 3rd term?

I'm asking is it right to overturn the Constitution? Obviously, what you think matters because Trump was elected.

 

[FelixDeCat]

You're in 1930s Germany. How do you convince your friend who voted for Hitler that it was a bad idea and that they need to resist Hitler instead.

I voted for Kaiser Wilhelm instead. He will lead the Weimer Republic to four more years of beer and busty women carrying pints of lager.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

What I think doesn't matter. The fact is that the vast majority of Americans wouldn't risk their lives or their comfort to fight. It's pretty easy to say "we have to take the country by force". It's whole different story when you realize those folks you want to oust have guns as well.
I find all of this absurd. It's emotional rantings over a lost election, no one here is going to risk his 401k to toss out Trump. No one is going to organize a rebellion and hang the republican's after a glorious victory. What's going to happen is left is going to snivel about it and hope that someone else takes action, while calling everyone that disagrees with them a Nazi racist.

Uh, what happens when they don't have their families' lives, their comforts, their 401k? You think people in 1930 thought they were about to bleed because of some fuck with a weird moustache that just got out of prison?

You got some strange takes my man, strange takes. Nobody here is being salty about rich assholes losing an election, they're concerned about losing their own lives, well-being, or watching our country turned into the 4th fucking Reich in front of our own eyes.