Is it the same price at the B&M?
Originally posted by: FordLorider
For all you guys looking for calc for college, how about you just wait until college. All universities will push a different calculator, although the majority will push the TI's. My calc classes I to IV and beyond, 1 recommended HP's and the others used TI's. MOST WILL NOT ALLOW CALCULATORS IN CLASS, PROFS AT A MAJOR UNIVERSITY ARE NOT STUPID. An 83 is more than you will need for most apps and it's the safe way to go if for some reason you have to have the calculator in your hands 1/2 a year before you are starting college??? Then go and find a free version of Mathematica or most computer labs in your Engineering building will have it pre-loaded. An 86, 89 and whatever the new name of the new TI is would be nice, when you are broke 1/3 the way through the first semester, you will be kicking yourself when you could have saved the money on a more logical calculator. The only major I would push for getting an 86 or above is Mechanical Eng, other Eng classes you are fine with something less.
Originally posted by: RDMustang1
My high school Calc classes all STRONGLY recommended the 83 (this was when they FIRST came out).. I used my 83 all throughout Engineering Calculus 1, 2, and 3 (as well as the rest of my math classes) in college and it worked fine... Yes the higher models do the calculus for you but you can't use them in class so it's pointless to have it do it for you on homework and then be clueless on tests.
Originally posted by: Ionizer86
Just to toss in 2 cents: the 89 is the only one that does symbolic math (variable in, variable out for factoring, expansion, integrals, etc). The 83 and 86 don't do that. The 86's interface is way too clunky IMHO. Hard to use. The 83+ is really good at this price, but the lack of symbolic math is very apparent. In fact, because of that, I think my $15 Casio scientific is almost as good. My casio can also do numerical derivs and integrals, formula plug and chug, quadratics, numerical algebra, pretty much everything the 83+ can do except for drawing pretty lines. Unless you need a basic unit that can graph or you need to do AP stats, I don't think the 83+ is the best there is out there. I hang onto my 89 for symbolics and my casio for usual scientific computation. Of course, not all profs allow all calculators, so check before buying. The price is really nice though, so you could always buy one and ebay it if it doesn't suit you. Oh and the TI graph link USB has a $15 rebate inside 🙂
Originally posted by: Powerforward
Does the 89 have all of the stat functions that the 83 has?