ROFL
I wish the prices were anything like this in the UK...
I'd like to stick another 2GB into my PC at that kind of knock-down price.
ROFL
I wish the prices were anything like this in the UK...
I'd like to stick another 2GB into my PC at that kind of knock-down price.
ordered 4gig yesterday. If I can unload my current 2gig I will probably order a couple more sticks just incase ram prices go back through the roof. I remember giving $220 for the current 2gig I have now(last year though). Hopefully they will keep them in stock and the price will remain the same for a week or so.
Just FYI, there appears to be some speculation that prices are close to bottoming out and should be on the rise again as we get closer to Christmas. That's not to say they won't come down again, but it's really difficult to see 2GB sticks getting cheaper to the point where you'd regret buying them at $39 a stick.
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I hear you, buy them if you can use them.
But, nevertheless, I have heard this before. I remember a couple of months ago, people saying that ram prices were going to go back up. They did but only a bit, and they have fallen even more since then.
Eventually though, yes, prices will bottom out. When that happens though, well, I'll believe it when I see it.
I don't think we'll see prices get too much higher until DDR3 becomes more popular, and that I don't think is going to happen any time soon. For two reasons.
One, DDR2 is cheap and provides plenty of bandwidth for current and near-future Core 2 processors. Even DDR2 1066mhz would be fine for a 2133mhz FSB Core 2, and I don't think we've heard about anything past 1600mhz FSB yet.
And two, Dell's new systems (specifically the XPS 420 and Precision T3400, both with X38 chipsets) are still running DDR2 memory. And what Dell uses definitely effects the market, and we last saw this with SATA optical drive prices falling dramatically when dell started using them exclusively in their desktops, dropping PATA almost all together.
At $38 per 2gb stick I just couldn't resist I bought 4 it was 162.62 shiped for 4 sticks for a total of 8GB, at that price I just couldn't resist even if its just to put on the shelf as spares incase my 4x 1gb Balistix 1066/1000 fails again.
Hi there:
I am thinking of buying more RAM for my desktop but since I have an old Motherboard
( ASUS P5VDC-MX ) , I am wondering if I can just put in these DDR2 800 module and expect them to run fine. Of course I understand I won't be running the memory at 800 but only at 667 or 533. My concern is with the memory voltage requirement as these DDR2 800 modules are spec'ed to run at 2.0+ V. If I run them at a lower speed, I assume the voltage required will be less. Do you I 'll run into problems? Thanks for your advice in advance.
Mike
I am thinking of buying more RAM for my desktop but since I have an old Motherboard
( ASUS P5VDC-MX ) , I am wondering if I can just put in these DDR2 800 module and expect them to run fine. Of course I understand I won't be running the memory at 800 but only at 667 or 533. My concern is with the memory voltage requirement as these DDR2 800 modules are spec'ed to run at 2.0+ V. If I run them at a lower speed, I assume the voltage required will be less. Do you I 'll run into problems? Thanks for your advice in advance.
Mike
I have not seen a spec for these modules!
They are not even shown on the manufacturer web site.
Where did you see an official specification for these (T8UB2GC5)?
Ahh you got me there! I assumed these DDR2 800 modules all run "hotter" than their predecessors and I have seen similar DDR2 800 rated at 2.0+V.
I could be mistaken but I believe the 2.0V is a nominal voltage for these faster RAM. I also read somewhere that many users of DDR2 800 and above had to
tweak their BIOS to up the memory voltage to make the RAM stable. I shall look for SPECS for STT modules.....
I could be mistaken but I believe the 2.0V is a nominal voltage for these faster RAM. I also read somewhere that many users of DDR2 800 and above had to
tweak their BIOS to up the memory voltage to make the RAM stable. I shall look for SPECS for STT modules.....
There is a specification on SuperTalent's web site, it's in the "overclocking memory"
section vs the "desktop memory" section (which confused me at first, as I also expected
to see it in the latter section).
T800UB2GC5:
http://www.supertalent.com/products/overclock.php
http://www.supertalent.com/dat...ts/T800UB2GC5_spec.pdf
Actually as I noted in a previous post of mine, the model numbers don't totally
match eWiz's site (T8) vs (T800) but I'm pretty sure it's the same RAM, and given that
a previous poster pointed out that eWiz IS on SuperTalent's authorized distributor list
on STT's web site, and that in fact, the companies may be related, I'm not concerned with
the small nomenclature difference.
So according to that PDF file the T800UB2GC5's run 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1V DDR2-800.
So I gather that you have no control of RAM voltage settings on your Motherboard?
If that's so, the voltage it generates is probably a fixed 1.8V, though possibly
(if you're in more luck) maybe it does internally read the voltage from SPD / EPP
information in the settings EEPROM on each RAM stick and sets the voltage accordingly.
I suppose the distinction between those two situations could be relevant to you.
Also it's possible there's a trivial "volt mod" change that can be done for your motherboard
either with a software program or with a simple hardware jumper or similar change that
could raise the RAM power supply voltage. I'd google for "volt mod" and the model number
of your motherboard.
Anyway yes DDR2-800 modules will certainly WORK at DDR2-533 or DDR2-667 speeds,
and they're likely to need less voltage to do so, and/or also they're likely able to
run at faster cycle timings as you slow their clock rate.
I would guess you're probably going to be able to run them at DDR2-667 or DDR2-533
at 1.8V without errors at 5-5-5-15 or maybe even more conservatively 6-6-6-18 or
5-5-5-18 timings.
For the current prices they seem like a good investment since they'll likely work now,
and be useful in the future if you upgrade your CPU/motherboard within the next year
so you can run them at their full speed.
I can't easily test stability of these for you at 1.8V / DDR2-667, but I have a limited
bit of information. I'm running TWO of these T8UB2GC5 eWiz DIMMs (rated at 2.1V)
ALONG WITH TWO Patriot DIMMs (which are rated at 2.0V). I was ALMOST stable
at stock frequency/timings of 800 MHz and 5-5-5-15 cycle timings, but I did have
a few bursts of memtest errors as I let it run overnight at undervolted (1.8V).
So nothing could be inferred from the failure, since it could be due to my PATRIOT RAM
and not the SUPERTALENT, or it could have been due to the CPU overclock too.
But when I lowered the CPU overclock and raised the RAM voltage to 2.0V (still less than
the SUPERTALENT 2.1 specification), everything was stable over 24 hours of memtest
with no errors.
I certainly suspect at the lower frequency you could go to 1.8V. Maybe I'll run memtest
on that system at DDR2-667 and 1.8V until tomorrow evening and let you know if
it passes, though if it fails, again, it could be due to the PATRIOT 2.0V RAM, so it's
not totally conclusive.
And, that's why I said there was no official spec!
The discrepancy is not between ewiz and ST. The discrepancy is between the label on the modules as you posted the picture yourself and the ST web site.
And I will not be getting T800UB... if I order these. I will be getting T8UB.......!
VirtualLarry
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$79.99 shipped for 2 sticks through the direct link. Froogle is $38, direct is $35.02.
So tempting. Stupid cheap.
So tempting. Stupid cheap.
WTF, seriously. WTF. $35.02? WTF.
If I didn't get in on that Newegg deal for the A-data ram, I would have jumped on this for sure. Now I have to wait for a rebate
If I didn't get in on that Newegg deal for the A-data ram, I would have jumped on this for sure. Now I have to wait for a rebate
Ok, seriously, where are they getting their ICs from that they can sell 2GB DDR2-800 sticks for $35 a pop ? I've already spent the money I've allotted for myself for the next couple of weeks, otherwise I'd probably jump on this .
On a side note, someone really needs to talk to them about their company image. Their logo invokes Walmart for one thing...and their company name would be more fitting for a Chinese fly-by-night shop (they're actually based in CA, if I recall).
? I've already spent the money I've allotted for myself for the next couple of weeks, otherwise I'd probably jump on this .On a side note, someone really needs to talk to them about their company image. Their logo invokes Walmart for one thing
...and their company name would be more fitting for a Chinese fly-by-night shop (they're actually based in CA, if I recall).Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
WTF, seriously. WTF. $35.02? WTF.
If I didn't get in on that Newegg deal for the A-data ram, I would have jumped on this for sure. Now I have to wait for a rebate
No kidding. I haven't sent in the rebate yet, so i could return it, but I think Newegg charges a restock fee.
Lanyap
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Originally posted by: AmberClad
Ok, seriously, where are they getting their ICs from that they can sell 2GB DDR2-800 sticks for $35 a pop
They make their own. Ewiz.com is the front end company of Ma Labs who designs and manufacturers their own ICs.
http://malabs.manufacturer.glo...800974720/Homepage.htm
Froogle link now down to $34.00
I believe the dumping of DDR2 that is going on may have to do with the coming of DDR3... Retailers are most prolly looking to reduce their inventories of DDR2 in order to facilitate their investment into DDR3. This has been the trend ever since I have been paying attention to computer parts, just before the advent of DDRI.
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Disagree.
As I stated above...
Originally posted by: bamacre
I hear you, buy them if you can use them.
But, nevertheless, I have heard this before. I remember a couple of months ago, people saying that ram prices were going to go back up. They did but only a bit, and they have fallen even more since then.
Eventually though, yes, prices will bottom out. When that happens though, well, I'll believe it when I see it.
I don't think we'll see prices get too much higher until DDR3 becomes more popular, and that I don't think is going to happen any time soon. For two reasons.
One, DDR2 is cheap and provides plenty of bandwidth for current and near-future Core 2 processors. Even DDR2 1066mhz would be fine for a 2133mhz FSB Core 2, and I don't think we've heard about anything past 1600mhz FSB yet.
And two, Dell's new systems (specifically the XPS 420 and Precision T3400, both with X38 chipsets) are still running DDR2 memory. And what Dell uses definitely effects the market, and we last saw this with SATA optical drive prices falling dramatically when dell started using them exclusively in their desktops, dropping PATA almost all together.
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