HOT?! Kingston 512MB PC2700 HyperX 2-2-2 $79+$6.50 s/h

[oktane]

Okay, I'm not sure if this is the real deal, but excaliberPC.com is selling Kingston HyperX PC2700 512MB DDR RAM. They say it is 2-2-2 timing (CAS Latency, RAS-to-CAS, row precharge), which is the best available. I did a search for HyperX PC2700 RAM and could not find any, so I wonder if this is a typo.

Kingston HyperX PC2700 512MB

Alternatively, you can get PC3000 HyperX 512MB for $89 + s/h. However, the timing here is 2-3-3. These might be the same chips, different packaging. It is entirely possible that these will run at 333MHz (instead of the rated 370MHz PC3000) at 2-2-2.

I am deciding between these and the Corsair 2-3-3's for $100 at googlegear.com.

 

[m1ke101]

my pc3000 sticks can memtest @ 215 2-2-26 2.7v

 

[oktane]

Wow. So what do you think, the PC3000 HyperX or the Corsair PC2700 2-3-3?

 

[deals99]

I have heard good things about kingston hyperx

 

[bonkers325]

Originally posted by: oktane
Okay, I'm not sure if this is the real deal, but excaliberPC.com is selling Kingston HyperX PC2700 512MB DDR RAM. They say it is 2-2-2 timing (CAS Latency, RAS-to-CAS, row precharge), which is the best available. I did a search for HyperX PC2700 RAM and could not find any, so I wonder if this is a typo.

Kingston HyperX PC2700 512MB

Alternatively, you can get PC3000 HyperX 512MB for $89 + s/h. However, the timing here is 2-3-3. These might be the same chips, different packaging. It is entirely possible that these will run at 333MHz (instead of the rated 370MHz PC3000) at 2-2-2.

I am deciding between these and the Corsair 2-3-3's for $100 at googlegear.com.

regular kingston pc2700 can do 2-2-2 @180fsb hehe

 

[Northland]

The Kingston Hyperx memory you mention carries a lifetime warranty. I have a stick of Hyperx PC3000 512MB in a Epox 8RDA+ running 2-2-2 cl2 at 166 (333). I will see how much higher it will go at aggressive timing as soon as my tbred b xp2100 arrives (hopefully tomorrow).

I have no complaints about this memory or excaliburpc.

Northland

 

[oktane]

Great, thanks. I look foward to seeing your results.

 

[EXman]

I'd spend the $10 extra to get the PC3000 I have 2 512 sticks running stable @ 180FSB @ cl2 ... over at SF guys are getting 200mhz with a single stick at cl2. and peeps reported that they were 5.4ns chips. they seem to go $10 ain't that much extra... IMHO

 

[TheJTrain]

Originally posted by: Northland
The Kingston Hyperx memory you mention carries a lifetime warranty. I have a stick of Hyperx PC3000 512MB in a Epox 8RDA+ running 2-2-2 cl2 at 166 (333). I will see how much higher it will go at aggressive timing as soon as my tbred b xp2100 arrives (hopefully tomorrow).

I have no complaints about this memory or excaliburpc.

Hey Northland, have you done any more aggressive timings testing with that stick? This looks like a pretty good deal, compared to the Corsair XMS series - 512MB PC2700 CL2 going for $22 more. Might have to jump on it, if the quality is there. I guess I'm just wondering why the Hyper X CL2 stick is only $8 more than the Value Ram CL2.5 stick at Kingston's own website:

Value RAM CL2.5 for $79
Hyper X CL2 for $87

Couldn't find any info on Kingston's website regarding the difference between Value RAM and Hyper X...

Jason

 

[TAL0N]

NewEgg now has the HyperX 512M PC-3000 sticks for $86 shipped ! this was first reported in this thread

Here's the NewEgg link

 

[kwo]

Will Kingston honor the lifetime warranty even though the memory was sold by a third party..I've heard that Crucial will only honor lifetime warranties if the memory was bought directly from them....

 

[sundog29]

Originally posted by: oktane
Okay, I'm not sure if this is the real deal, but excaliberPC.com is selling Kingston HyperX PC2700 512MB DDR RAM. They say it is 2-2-2 timing (CAS Latency, RAS-to-CAS, row precharge), which is the best available. I did a search for HyperX PC2700 RAM and could not find any, so I wonder if this is a typo.

...

I am deciding between these and the Corsair 2-3-3's for $100 at googlegear.com.

GG has the same KHX2700 stick for $74 shipped. They advertise it as 2/4/4/8 @ 2700 capable.

So what does everyone think they should be comparing?
The XMS 2/3/3/6 2700 at $98 with

a. the 'KHX2700 2/2/2/x' at $75
or
b. the KHX2700 2/4/4/8 at $74.

(Hint: Search the recent threads for Excaliber)

 

[dew042]

Originally posted by: sundog29

Originally posted by: oktane
Okay, I'm not sure if this is the real deal, but excaliberPC.com is selling Kingston HyperX PC2700 512MB DDR RAM. They say it is 2-2-2 timing (CAS Latency, RAS-to-CAS, row precharge), which is the best available. I did a search for HyperX PC2700 RAM and could not find any, so I wonder if this is a typo.

...

I am deciding between these and the Corsair 2-3-3's for $100 at googlegear.com.

GG has the same KHX2700 stick for $74 shipped. They advertise it as 2/4/4/8 @ 2700 capable.

So what does everyone think they should be comparing?
The XMS 2/3/3/6 2700 at $98 with

a. the 'KHX2700 2/2/2/x' at $75
or
b. the KHX2700 2/4/4/8 at $74.

(Hint: Search the recent threads for Excaliber)

2/4/4/8???

i have never heard of that timing

good ram runs 2, 2, 2, 5 and 1t
generic ddr runs 2.5, 3, 3, 6 and 2t

where does 4 & 8 come in????

dew.

 

[formulav8]

8 should be the burst length which is good(normal is 4 which is worse)

 

[sundog29]

Originally posted by: dew042

Originally posted by: sundog29

Originally posted by: oktane
Okay, I'm not sure if this is the real deal, but excaliberPC.com is selling Kingston HyperX PC2700 512MB DDR RAM. They say it is 2-2-2 timing (CAS Latency, RAS-to-CAS, row precharge), which is the best available. I did a search for HyperX PC2700 RAM and could not find any, so I wonder if this is a typo.

...

I am deciding between these and the Corsair 2-3-3's for $100 at googlegear.com.

GG has the same KHX2700 stick for $74 shipped. They advertise it as 2/4/4/8 @ 2700 capable.

So what does everyone think they should be comparing?
The XMS 2/3/3/6 2700 at $98 with

a. the 'KHX2700 2/2/2/x' at $75
or
b. the KHX2700 2/4/4/8 at $74.

(Hint: Search the recent threads for Excaliber)

2/4/4/8???

i have never heard of that timing

Well hear me now, and believe me later.

good ram runs 2, 2, 2, 5 and 1t
generic ddr runs 2.5, 3, 3, 6 and 2t

where does 4 & 8 come in????

dew.

As a tradeoff to get 2700.

Take a look at the Mushkin 3500 spec'd at 2.5/4/4x for some more 4/4 action.

 

[TheJTrain]

That's the thing with Newegg's listing - they give detail on the PC3500 (2-4-4-8-1T) and the PC2700 (2-2-2-5-1T), but not on the PC3000 - just that it's CL2. Do you want to risk getting the wrong one on the chance that it's a really sweet deal, or do you go with the known quantity for peace of mind?

Newegg's got the 512MB Kingston PC2700 CL2 for $75 shipped (but it's OOS), while Kingston's own site lists it for $86 and free shipping.

Jason

 

[TheJTrain]

Anybody got a link to explain exactly what the digits mean - and whether lower is better or higher is better? I thought lower was better on all of them, but formulav8 and sundog29 sound like it's opposite for the 4th one.

Jason

 

[GotIssues]

I have had my KHX pc3000 running at 192 FSB at 2-2-2-1t cl2 without any problems. I couldn't push it any further because my IDE and PCI really really doesn't like it. If only I had a mobo with PCI lock or a 1/6....

 

[TAL0N]

RaynorWolfcastle put together great DDR400 info in this thread the info is applicable to slower memory, in short the lower (tighter) the timings, the better.

The HyperX PC3000 has 370MHz settings: 2-3-3-1T (CAS Latency 2), this was covered in depth in my original thread about the HyperX deal at ExcaliberPC here

hope this helps

 

[sundog29]

Originally posted by: TheJTrain
Anybody got a link to explain exactly what the digits mean - and whether lower is better or higher is better? I thought lower was better on all of them, but formulav8 and sundog29 sound like it's opposite for the 4th one.

Jason

Didn't mean to. Lower is better.

 

[sundog29]

Originally posted by: TheJTrain
That's the thing with Newegg's listing - they give detail on the PC3500 (2-4-4-8-1T) and the PC2700 (2-2-2-5-1T), but not on the PC3000 - just that it's CL2. Do you want to risk getting the wrong one on the chance that it's a really sweet deal, or do you go with the known quantity for peace of mind? ...

Exactly, Jason.

Kingston's site is absent specs on the 2700. An excellent earlier review by Chong345, HyperX 3500, predates the HyperX 2700, and discusses some of the 'strange' (2/4/4/8) timings.

So just where did Newegg, Excaliber and GG get their specs? If Mushkin Black 222 2700 is (OOS @) $150, XMS 2700 is $98, then HyperX 222 at $75 is a really sweet deal which I dismissed/overlooked yesterday by buying a third gig of XMS instead.

At his point in time, despite the Newegg specs, I still have piece of mind. After all, nobody ever got fired by buying IBM, or Corsair. [Note to self: check on that piece of mind if the Kingston does, in fact, spec out at 222 after all.]

 

[LukFilm]

Glad you have piece of mind, I would be worried if you didn't

 

[mdcrab]

Info can be found here at:
Planet Analog

News release dated today.

mdcrab

 

[sundog29]

Originally posted by: LukFilm
Glad you have piece of mind, I would be worried if you didn't

Heh, old joke involving incomplete information, spelled out twice, Luk. As far as peace of mind, mdcrab subsequently found this news blurb which explains the LL timing specs and the addition of 2700 and 3200 to the HyperX line since the 3500 article:

Kingston HyperX Features: * 184-pin Unbuffered DDR Modules: * PC2700 333MHz settings: 2-2-2-5-1 (CAS Latency 2) * PC3000 370MHz settings: 2-2-2-6-1 (CAS Latency 2) * PC3200 400MHz settings: 2-2-2-6-1 (CAS Latency 2) * PC3500 434MHz settings: 2-3-3-7-1 (CAS Latency 2) * Aluminum heat spreader for thermal diffusion * PCB height: 1.200" (30.48mm)

Corsair distinguishes their LL spec'd modules, which command a higher price, from their normally XMS-spec'd ones through different part numbers. If Kingston keeps the same part number for the new batch, the difference should show up upon install in the form of a tighter SPD.

The real question is what is in the pipeline. Many in this thread have found the HyperX to be an excellent OC. If the LL contain the same underlying chips, but are marketed at a higher rating, then the question is moot. In any case, Kingston's own prices on the LLs are killer. So for anyone looking for a sure thing today, buy direct. Since mdcrab located the specs, however, Newegg's OOS is actually a good sign since they are apparently waiting on the LL stuff. Anyone looking to populate fully a E7205 board with 3000LL for $400 should keep an eye on Newegg.

 

[sundog29]

Boy I hate consecutive posts.

That said, after dropping their price on the HyperX 3000s in sync with GG, Newegg just sold out of its last 3 sticks leaving the (Granite Bay) buyer 1 stick short of the 4 that were in his shopping cart. Greedy bastard. Fortunately, GG still had one in stock. Get 'em while you can.

HyperX CAS Update:
I spoke with Kingston tech support and, although they don't have a RamGuy like Corsair, apparently the more tightly spec'd HyperX line is the same product that is in the retail pipeline now. I also stand corrected: Kingston does have the 3000 @ 2/2/2/6 on its website if you put it in your cart. All the new CAS ratings are there and match the ones in the news release.