HOT! Antec Cobra A26 Round 133 ATA Cable Model 77226 Retail

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jellyjams

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This is my first "HOT" post...trying hard to get it right.

Specifications:
40-pin 80-conductor cable, ATA133/100/66/33 compliant for high speed data transfer...Highly flexible 26" round cable (16" + 10") with two device connections, one motherboard connector. Wrapped with nylon mesh plastic tubing for maximum air flow improvement. Shielded with aluminum foil and braided silver mesh with ground, for maximum shielding. Note: First connector to second connector is 10"...second connector to motherboard connector is 16".

Cost: $12.95 + tax + Special FedEx Saver Shipping $6.00

Deal: Buy more and save more (include tax)

Buy 2 pcs @ $9 EACH, Free FedEx Saver shipping
Buy 4 pcs @ $8.5 EACH, Free FedEx Saver shipping
Buy 20 pcs @ $7 EACH, Free FedEx Saver shipping

I purchased 4...cost total $36.81 to California. I have used these cables before with great results on a case mod. There are others also.

IN STOCK ! BEAM ME UP SCOTTIE
 
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Steven the Leech

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Where at? Newegg? I bought some of these and are very nice, and backward compatable with ata 33.

NM i clicked your beam me link.
 
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msn

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Nice, but let's spice this up with a free keyboard on top!

Antec Cobra A26 Round 133 ATA Cable Model 77226 Retail
Specifications:
40-pin 80-conductor cable, ATA133/100/66/33 compliant for high speed data transfer
Highly flexible 26" round cable (16" + 10") with two device connections, one motherboard connector.
Wrapped with nylon mesh plastic tubing for maximum air flow improvement.
Shielded with aluminum foil and braided silver mesh with ground, for maximum shielding. $9.00 $12.95
2 $18.00

Buy Antec SX835II Case, Antec TRUE480W, or TRUE550W Power Supply and get this for FREE
How does it work: Buy any qualified items and add this to cart. Credit given at Order Confirmation
Antec Model KX10 107 Key Keyboard Retail
Features:
18 Internet and Multimedia Hotkeys
107 Key Enhanced keyboard layout
Windows Power keys
Soft touch membrane keyswitch
Fully functional with Windows 98, NT4, Me, 2000
Compatible with Windows 95, 3.x (without power key functions)
Connector: Ps2 $12.99 1 $12.99

Discount for 23-153-001 & ANTEC $-12.99 1 $-12.99

Subtotal:
$ 18.00
Tax:
$.00
Shipping and Handling charge*:
$6.00
Total:
$24.00
 
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jellyjams

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Originally posted by: msn
Nice, but let's spice this up with a free keyboard on top!

Antec Cobra A26 Round 133 ATA Cable Model 77226 Retail
Specifications:
40-pin 80-conductor cable, ATA133/100/66/33 compliant for high speed data transfer
Highly flexible 26" round cable (16" + 10") with two device connections, one motherboard connector.
Wrapped with nylon mesh plastic tubing for maximum air flow improvement.
Shielded with aluminum foil and braided silver mesh with ground, for maximum shielding. $9.00 $12.95
2 $18.00

Buy Antec SX835II Case, Antec TRUE480W, or TRUE550W Power Supply and get this for FREE
How does it work: Buy any qualified items and add this to cart. Credit given at Order Confirmation
Antec Model KX10 107 Key Keyboard Retail
Features:
18 Internet and Multimedia Hotkeys
107 Key Enhanced keyboard layout
Windows Power keys
Soft touch membrane keyswitch
Fully functional with Windows 98, NT4, Me, 2000
Compatible with Windows 95, 3.x (without power key functions)
Connector: Ps2 $12.99 1 $12.99

Discount for 23-153-001 & ANTEC $-12.99 1 $-12.99

Subtotal:
$ 18.00
Tax:
$.00
Shipping and Handling charge*:
$6.00
Total:
$24.00
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:D I see what you're hearing...huh...hear what you're seeing...good looking out...thanks
 
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drti

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is it much cheaper here

http://svc.com/24dualdevice.html

Glow In The Dark 24" Dual Device ATA133/100 Round Cable

Regular price: $5.99
Sale price: $4.49

UV Sensitive 24" Dual Device ATA133/100 Round Cable

Regular price: $5.99
Sale price: $4.49
 
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Parasitic

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Nice deal, but Newegg charges too much for shipping on small, featherweight items.
SVC is much easier on shipping charges.
 
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GregANDTCH

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Are the Antec one's any better quality?
I'm glad they put 10" between the drive connectors.
It's hard to get some to reach from one of the upper 5.25 drives to a hard drive mounted low in the front.
Bump!;)
 
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jellyjams

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Originally posted by: tuan121
isnt 26inch kind of long tho???
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:cool: When you have a tower or server or a mod case, I have found the longer cables to be great for nice neat layouts. Also, I like to keep my DVD-RW, DVD-ROM and CD-RW on separate cables. Throw all this together with 5 harddrives (using RAID 5) and I was very happy to find 26" round cables of this quality.
 
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jellyjams

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Originally posted by: Parasitic
Nice deal, but Newegg charges too much for shipping on small, featherweight items.
SVC is much easier on shipping charges.
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:cool: It's hard to beat the free FedEx shipping on multiple purchase! But you are very correct in that shipping, tax and confidence in seller should be considered in all purchases.
 
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jellyjams

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:Q Ordered 03/19/2003 and received 03/20/2003. They got them out real quick. Just what I expected...these cables are real flexible. Also NOTE, these cables DO NOT have "pull tabs" on the connectors.
 
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ericboo

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Read a recent review of these Cobra cables and compared to the cheap SVC cables, they really are worth the extra cash. The transfer rates were disginficantly higher. I got a couple of 10" round cables from Compusa (PC Toys).
 
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m1ke101

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Originally posted by: ericboo
Read a recent review of these Cobra cables and compared to the cheap SVC cables, they really are worth the extra cash. The transfer rates were disginficantly higher. I got a couple of 10" round cables from Compusa (PC Toys).
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hm are you sure about this? I thought all rounded cables did was look good and improve airflow
 
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RadioactiveMagpies

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just wondering, is the noise coming form the rest of the other components in the pc and interfering with the cable?

i was thinking of wrapping my flat cable in some aluminium foil + electrical tape if that is the case, seriously.
 
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salsa086

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magpie, that is actually an awesome concept... from an engineering standpoint it makes perfect sense:

detractors of the first generation rounded cables (oem and homemade) would point to the proximity of the individual cables as a potential problem: because each cable would now be susceptible to interference from the adjacent cable: typically a homemade rounded cable often performed worse in its newly modified state than its original configuration. But manufacturers saw some of the potential advantages of round cables:

1. the cable shape helped optimize airflow in cases (indirectly improving performance of thermally sensitive components)

2. if the cable was properly shielded, theoretically, transfer rates should improve.

there is a reason typical ata133 cables are flat... the engineers are privy to the fact that proximity to other cables makes it more susceptible to EMI from adjacent cables...

I would almost be willing to bet that a well shielded flat cable would outperform a well shielded rounded cable:

magpie, you might want to start writing up some patent schematics and start running some benchmarks... because if you don't... I will.... look for Salsa Cables on newegg in a couple months.... "we spice up your data transfers"
 
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Squalish2357

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To all those that claim rounded cables let you go faster, I say: bullshit.

It isn't hard to do a rounded cable badly, while flat cables are somewhat harder to screw up. In a flat cable, every other wire acts as to shield the next active wire(40 of the 80 wires are active at any one time) from the signal. Rounded cables don't have this, and twisting is the only way to fix it. When it is formed in twisted pairs and shielded(with the shield grounded), the only advantage over flat cables in terms of performance is a higher resistance to outside noise. When this noise affects the signal, the checksum says that that packet of information is corrupted, and needs to be re-transmitted. This doesn't happen much, and in normal low-quality flat cables, it is something on the order of <1%. In low-quality rounded cables, which are sometimes not twisted, it can be quite a bit higher, since signal wires are next to signal wires. Almost all named or popular rounded cables these days are twisted pair. A twisted pair round cable with a rubber sleeve has essentially no performance advantage over flat cables. A shielded one has a bit of resistance to outside noise, but unless you are running a @$%!ing jacob's ladder next to it, the performance difference is going to be trivial.

Salsa: Those tests were faked. While I somewhat believe the flat vs silver braid cable, the Gladiator result is obviously either an entirely different drive,or just photoshopped results. The other two cables had almost the exact same curve, with the flat cable having slightly more noise(which I attribute to external noise and the ability of the shielding to absorb that). Were the gladiator really able to raise the drive performance by 25%, every hard drive manufacturer would package it with their drives, rather than spend tens of millions in R&D.

Here is a good explanation.

edit: Salsa: A cable does not have a performance difference. The ATA spec runs at a FIXED SPEED dependant on clock generators which have no connection with the quality of the cable. Theoretical maximum transfer rates are pegged to the IDE bus, not "as fast as the cable can go." Even so, current hard drives very, very rarely reach the maximum theoretical speed of even ATA-66 speeds(We are now at 2 or 1.5 times that speed for any new hard drive/motherboard.).
 
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In order to combat one of the disadvantages of round cables a couple of you mentioned, the better quality ones now have the strands paired. I.e. 2 of the wires are still together and not apart, each of the 40 wires along with its neighboring ground wire. I know that my latest rounded cables have that, while some earlier ones of mine did not. Personally I think it doesn't hurt to spend the few extra bucks.

I do know that whenever I play CS or TFC, I'm almost always the first one in the game when the map changes. I know its due in large part to my hard drive because I only have a 1600xp and a geforce 2. So the hard drive loads are very fast on my computer. Of course most of that is from the WD 120gig 8 meg special edition drive, but maybe some is from the cable. Who knows. Just a thought, and I know its not proof. Anyway, thanks for some of the above interesting links.

What I really want to see is those SATA drives becoming more popular. Hot pluggable dang :) And those cables are nice looking, and you can get them LONG.
 
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jellyjams

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:) Hey Squalish2357, that was really good reading (I haven't had a physics or electronics class in quite some time). I have read some of this data on various sites, but to tell you the truth, I really didn't file it because the differences one way are another is so minute as to not make a difference in my systems (I think this is the essence of your statements). I really do not feel the rounded cables would be such big sellers if it was not for "case modding". I have seen some real nice layouts with flat cables that are neat and do not block airflow. But modders seem to like the look of a nice layout of round cables. Most commercial systems, servers, etc., that I have seen are equiped with the "old" flat cable. Those round cables just look so darn GOOD!
 
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Dan

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Squalish2357: Thanks for the excellent information. Very well-written.
 
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