Honda will have a diesel version of an Accord

Syringer

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http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/accord-diesel-in-accord-hybrid-out/

The diesel in question will be an ultra clean 2.2 - 2.4L four-cylinder able to meet the toughest emissions standards in the world, i.e. California's Tier II / Bin 5 standard. Nunn reports that the Accord Hybrid will be "quietly retired" upon the arrival of the four-cylinder Accord Diesel, which should be able to handily trounce the outgoing hot-rod V6 hybrid in fuel mileage at the same time delivering decent get up and go. For those wanting more power, Honda is also planning a diesel V6 that will first be used in the Ridgeline before being disseminated across the lineup in its vans and SUVs.

Wow, a great move in terms of making a car that'll run well and get great fuel economy--I'm very curious as to what Honda can do with a diesel--but how it will be accepted among the general community is questionable. Diesel in the US is associated with big trucks/vehicles, being loud and crude, and with diesel filling stations being much less common compared to regular gas stations, it's acceptance may be low to start with.

However once people see what sort of mileage numbers it'll put out, and if gas prices begin to skyrocket again, I think it can be a huge success for others to follow..and people will be saying Hybrid what?
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Not surprised, even though Mercedes has beaten them.

And a number of other car manufacturers. Volkswagen's new TDI is supposed to be pretty awesome.
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Not surprised, even though Mercedes has beaten them.

And a number of other car manufacturers. Volkswagen's new TDI is supposed to be pretty awesome.

Yeah, I see quite a few VW diesels around here, and even some old Mercedes diesels. My boss had one with over 300k miles on it and still ran fine! :Q
 

Lonyo

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Maybe the US will start to embrace the diesel car too. Welcome to the 21st century.
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Not surprised, even though Mercedes has beaten them.

And a number of other car manufacturers. Volkswagen's new TDI is supposed to be pretty awesome.

Yeah, I see quite a few VW diesels around here, and even some old Mercedes diesels. My boss had one with over 300k miles on it and still ran fine! :Q

The new Volkswagen TDI is supposed to be one of the cleanest engines period. It's also supposed to have better mpg then the current ~55mpg highway. (Not supposed to be out until 2008) though.

 

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Originally posted by: SuperNaruto
uk diesel had test accord getting over 90mpg highway...

i believe that was imperial gallons, which is larger than US gallons.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Not surprised, even though Mercedes has beaten them.

Actually, no one has beaten anyone yet. On light trucks and passenger cars, no manufacturer has a 50-state diesel vehicle on the road.

There are several companies attempting to achieve that title, however.

Originally posted by: SuperNaruto
uk diesel had test accord getting over 90mpg highway...

I doubt that, since a VW Lupo doesn't get that and it has a three cylinder diesel with very little safety equipment (I.e. it's about as light as it gets).
 

archcommus

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Why are diesels inherently more long-lasting than gasoline engines?
What have they done to make these diesels quieter than say something you'd find in a bus or truck?
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Not surprised, even though Mercedes has beaten them.

Actually, no one has beaten anyone yet. On light trucks and passenger cars, no manufacturer has a 50-state diesel vehicle on the road.

There are several companies attempting to achieve that title, however.

Umm yes, Mercedes is producing many Blutech diesels as we speak, as is VW.

 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Maybe the US will start to embrace the diesel car too. Welcome to the 21st century.

Wow.

One no.

Second it is not the people's fault that we have not embraced diesel, blame it on the goverment's strict immisions standards on all new diesel cars.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Not surprised, even though Mercedes has beaten them.

Actually, no one has beaten anyone yet. On light trucks and passenger cars, no manufacturer has a 50-state diesel vehicle on the road.

There are several companies attempting to achieve that title, however.

Umm yes, Mercedes is producing many Blutech diesels as we speak, as is VW.

Again, no. The diesels available from VW, Mercedes and Jeep are only available in 45 states. You cannot purchase a new diesel vehicle in all 50 states unless it is a heavy duty/commercial truck.

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
If it supports biodiesel out the door, that would be awesome as well.

All diesel engines are capable of running biodiesel.
 

Toastedlightly

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Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Not surprised, even though Mercedes has beaten them.

Actually, no one has beaten anyone yet. On light trucks and passenger cars, no manufacturer has a 50-state diesel vehicle on the road.

There are several companies attempting to achieve that title, however.

Umm yes, Mercedes is producing many Blutech diesels as we speak, as is VW.

Again, no. The diesels available from VW, Mercedes and Jeep are only available in 45 states. You cannot purchase a new diesel vehicle in all 50 states unless it is a heavy duty/commercial truck.

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
If it supports biodiesel out the door, that would be awesome as well.

All diesel engines are capable of running biodiesel.

I was referring to the need for solid lines (no rubber as biodiesel is a strong solvent) and compatible pumping parts, that sort of stuff. Just clearing the question up.
 

EvilYoda

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Good time for diesels...with Jeep getting one in the next year or so in addition to all the passenger vehicles, maybe diesel will become more accepted.